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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

I remember seeing the colorful AVIATECA 727-100's and 737-200/300's in MSY frequently in the 80's and early 90's. I think they flew MSY-GUA three times weekly but I don't remember for sure. Also I'm pretty sure I remember seeing some tag on flights on the route maps like IAH-MSY and MSY-ORD. Can anyone shed some light on the old GU flight schedules to the U.S? IAH-MID was another long standing route of theirs, and of course they served MIA frequently and, I believe, LAX.


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I sure miss seeing the colorful Central American flag carriers flying around...LACSA, SAHSA, AVIATECA, NICA...it's too bad that TA gobbled up most of them.

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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3322 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2563 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I sure miss seeing the colorful Central American flag carriers flying around...LACSA, SAHSA, AVIATECA, NICA...it's too bad that TA gobbled up most of them.

And, to/from MIA, at least, pretty much dismantled their operations. TA/LR only flies once a day each to GUA, MGA, SAL, SAP, and SJO. The local carriers flew to these cities multiple times a day.


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32688 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2535 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 1):
TA/LR only flies once a day each to GUA, MGA, SAL, SAP, and SJO. The local carriers flew to these cities multiple times a day.

Managua is double-daily again this winter, and TGU also resumes non-stop. There is also RTB service. GUA and SAL get seasonal second frequencies often, but its not a consistent schedule.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

I had the privilege of flying on one of the Aviateca 727 birds round trip between MSY and GUA in August of 1989. What a hoot! Carry ons in the aisles, the FAs wheeling the beverage cart pouring drinks from regular bottles...I liked the new Aviateca design on their 737s, it captured the spirit of Guatemala. My parents flew down to see me while I was working their in December 1993. Aviateca ran two flights back to back between LAX and GUA to meet the Christmas demand. My parents raved about the service aboard.

User currently offlineAer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

GU is one of the airlines and liveries that I miss the most, especially the one with the blue tail.


nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
User currently offlinePRINAIR From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2311 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I sure miss seeing the colorful Central American flag carriers flying around...LACSA, SAHSA, AVIATECA, NICA...it's too bad that TA gobbled up most of them.

LACSA + TACA + NICA = LACSATANICA

Just read it outloud. It describes TACA's current service levels.



PRINAIR : Puerto Rico International Airlines
User currently offlineAer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2230 times:



Quoting PRINAIR (Reply 5):
LACSA + TACA + NICA = LACSATANICA

Good one, but you forgot Aviateca in the mix.



nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4464 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2093 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I think they flew MSY-GUA three times weekly but I don't remember for sure. Also I'm pretty sure I remember seeing some tag on flights on the route maps like IAH-MSY and MSY-ORD

GU GUA-IAH-MSY-GUA. 3x weekly with 733
GU GUA-MID-IAH and back. 4x weekly with 733.

Source: Aviateca, The airline of Guatemala. International timetable. Effective: October 28th 1990 - November 30th 1990.




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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
There is also RTB service

TA SAL-RTB-IAH with 320 on Saturdays.
TA SAL-RTB-MIA with 320 on Sundays.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2076 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 7):
GU GUA-IAH-MSY-GUA. 3x weekly with 733
GU GUA-MID-IAH and back. 4x weekly with 733.

Source: Aviateca, The airline of Guatemala. International timetable. Effective: October 28th 1990 - November 30th 1990.

Thanks for that. I thought I remembered that IAH-MSY leg on the route map. Pretty sure ORD was added later.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4464 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2065 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
IAH-MSY leg on the route map

Comprehensive schedule:

GU 920........Mo, We, Fr........GUA 08:30.........IAH 11:30.......733
GU 920........Mo, We, Fr........IAH 12:10...........MSY 13:10.....733
GU 921........Mo, We, Fr........MSY 13:50.........GUA 16:30.....733

Source: Aviateca, The airline of Guatemala. International timetable. Effective: October 28th 1990 - November 30th 1990.


The operation of that route was prior to the entrance of CO into the Central American landscape during the early 90s.




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Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 8):
ORD was added later

I cannot remember that destination on GU.
Wasn’t [Chicago-MSY-GUA] a route of Pan Am instead?
Maybe Pan Am during the 707 era had some flights originated in Chicago and heading to GUA. Notice that GUA was an important base of that airline several years ago.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2062 times:



Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 9):
I cannot remember that destination on GU.
Wasn’t [Chicago-MSY-GUA] a route of Pan Am instead?
Maybe Pan Am during the 707 era had some flights originated in Chicago and heading to GUA. Notice that GUA was an important base of that airline several years ago.

PA did fly MSY-GUA with 707's three times a week through the late 70's, but I'm fairly sure it was just a MSY-GUA flight which continued further along into Central America.

My could be playing tricks on me but I swear I had an old GU schedule that had a MSY-ORD tag providing same-plane ORD-GUA service. Perhaps this was close to the end of the GU era.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4464 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Other Aviateca U.S. routes:

GU 900.....Daily............SJO 06:00.......MGA 06:40......733
GU 900.....Daily............MGA 07:00......GUA 08:10......733
GU 900.....Daily............GUA 08:50.......MIA 12:30.......733

GU 901.....Daily............MIA 14:00........GUA 16:00......733
GU 901.....Daily............GUA 17:00.......MGA 18:10.....733
GU 901.....Daily............MGA 18:30.......SJO 19:10......733

GU 960....Tu, Fr, Sa......GUA 18:30.......LAX 21:40.......733
GU 961....Tu, Fr, Sa......LAX 22:55........GUA 06:30+1..733

Source: Aviateca, The airline of Guatemala. International timetable. Effective: October 28th 1990 - November 30th 1990.


Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

I used to love seeing the old Aviateca planes in the late 1980s at IAH. IAH was a lot more colorful back then with Aviateca, Sahsa, Cayman, Viasa, AeroMexico, and a few others. While I love CO, their success at IAH has meant one thing; lots of blue globe tails and not much else.

User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1952 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
My could be playing tricks on me but I swear I had an old GU schedule that had a MSY-ORD tag providing same-plane ORD-GUA service. Perhaps this was close to the end of the GU era.

You are correct MSYtristar. I was living in Guatemala at the time when they announced the tag to Chicago.

Before PA's demise they flew LA-GUA-SAL-Miami and the reverse.


User currently offlineJuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1939 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 10):
My could be playing tricks on me but I swear I had an old GU schedule that had a MSY-ORD tag providing same-plane ORD-GUA service. Perhaps this was close to the end of the GU era.

I also remember there was a ORD flight, I think it was a direct flight GUA-ORD-GUA but it didn't lasted much.

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4464 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Quoting DesertAir (Reply 13):
I was living in Guatemala at the time when they announced the tag to Chicago

The possible existence of GU MSY-ORD did not allow traffic rights between these US stations meaning that route unappealing.
Regarding how ORD is an active station for GRUPO TACA nowadays, it would be a heritage from one of the former airlines of such group and GU may be one of them.

Regards.

[Edited 2009-07-20 08:32:57]


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