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Airlines Based At MSY  
User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

What airlines have been based at MSY besides PrideAir in the 80's.
(was Pride Air based there? I know it was their hub, but Im not sure if their HDQ was there)

I know that PrideAir was going to have MCI as their hub, but at about the same time EA began building up at MCI. It probably wouldn't have made much difference as PrideAir only lasted
about 3 months anyway.

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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3219 times:

PrideAir did had its main office in New Orleans, as did Air New Orleans, which eventually ended up flying as a Continental Express carrier in the mid/late 80's. I think Royale was, also.
While not its main office, TACA had its North American HDQ based in New Orleans for many, many years.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3167 times:

TACA even had a (pilot) crew base out of MSY for ages IIRC.

User currently offlineMSYPI7185 From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3126 times:



Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 2):
TACA even had a (pilot) crew base out of MSY for ages IIRC.

Also Delta had a crew base in MSY for many many years until about 6-7 years ago IIRC.

The only airlines I know of that were HQ here are the 4 mentioned above.

I need to check but Delta IIRC was based in Louisiana in the early years (Monroe?) before moving to ATL.

MD


User currently offlineCody From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1932 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Not headquartered there, but Northeastern International Airways had its main hub in MSY in the mid 1980's. I believe around 20 flights a day at their peak.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

I want to say that in the 40s or 50s there was an airline offshoot of a cruise line or shipping company that was based in MSY. I think that they flew Lockheed Electras and DC-4s. I'll try to look it up, but I imagine one of you will find it before I do.


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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

Was Royale based in MSY or IAH?

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3063 times:

I found it. They were called Waterman Airlines and were spun off of the Waterman Steamship Lines. Unfortunately, everthing I can find about them (which isn't much) indicates that they were based in Mobile, AL and not New Orleans. It does say, however, that they were somehow tied to TACA and helped them acquire aircraft.


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User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 763 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3053 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 3):
Also Delta had a crew base in MSY for many many years until about 6-7 years ago IIRC.

Delta did have a pilot base there in the 80's (at least 727s) but I think that was gone no later that 90-91 if it lasted past the Western merger. The FA's probably had a base there for a lot longer.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2959 times:



Quoting DualQual (Reply 8):
The FA's probably had a base there for a lot longer.

I'm pretty sure the F/A base lasted until the late 90's. IIRC, MSY was closed along with a couple of other long standing crew bases.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2944 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 9):
I'm pretty sure the F/A base lasted until the late 90's. IIRC, MSY was closed along with a couple of other long standing crew bases.

Actually it was open till 03ish...it closed along with IAH and ORD (which has reopened as a satellite).


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2919 times:



Quoting MSYPI7185 (Reply 3):

I need to check but Delta IIRC was based in Louisiana in the early years (Monroe?) before moving to ATL.

Moved from Monroe to Atlanta in 1941. DL was headquartered in Monroe from 1928-1941 (1925 if you include the few years prior to Woolman's purchase of Huff Daland Dusters [And renaming the operation Delta], who moved to Monroe in 1925 from Macon, GA.).

In some respects, you would think MSY would be a good location for a cargo airline hub. The Port of New Orleans and the Port of South Louisiana are one of the biggest port systems in the world. But I guess that the primary products that come into the two ports are items that are better shipped by truck, rail, or barge.


User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2906 times:



Quoting Srbmod (Reply 11):
In some respects, you would think MSY would be a good location for a cargo airline hub. The Port of New Orleans and the Port of South Louisiana are one of the biggest port systems in the world. But I guess that the primary products that come into the two ports are items that are better shipped by truck, rail, or barge.

I would think so too. The amount of flowers that are shipped to Miami for distribution across the US and Canada is amazing to me. A large number ofDC8's (& other aricraft as well) arriving from Ecuador, Columbia, and Costa Rica that are 100% flower product arrive in Miami, on a daily basis. I would think that New Orleans would be more central for timely distribution with trucking companies, but I too guess Miami has a better infrastructure and capability for this type of distribution.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2892 times:



Quoting Ridgid727 (Reply 12):
I would think so too. The amount of flowers that are shipped to Miami for distribution across the US and Canada is amazing to me. A large number ofDC8's (& other aricraft as well) arriving from Ecuador, Columbia, and Costa Rica that are 100% flower product arrive in Miami, on a daily basis. I would think that New Orleans would be more central for timely distribution with trucking companies, but I too guess Miami has a better infrastructure and capability for this type of distribution.

The big issue is the lack of many distribution centers in the area to tie everything together. There are a few, but not many. Considering the Mississippi River is just a stone's throw away from the airport and considering there's the CN Chicago-New Orleans mainline running literally right next to MSY (and a KCS and UP line about 1/2 mile away), you would think at some point the power's that be would have said "hey...let's tie this all together...we have an airport, river, and major railroads basically connected to each other." Perfect ingredients for a cargo hub. But for whatever reason, that wasn't done. Lack of vision, I suppose. Most of the cargo that isn't on barges is loaded onto trucks and trains shipside and sent on its way. A few of the railroads have large intermodal facilities in the area.


User currently offlineRidgid727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 13):
you would think at some point the power's that be would have said "hey...let's tie this all together...we have an airport, river, and major railroads basically connected to each other." Perfect ingredients for a cargo hub. But for whatever reason, that wasn't done. Lack of vision, I suppose. Most of the cargo that isn't on barges is loaded onto trucks and trains shipside and sent on its way. A few of the railroads have large intermodal facilities in the area.

It's really too bad they haven't tried to do something like this. It appears that prior to Katrina they placed all their eggs in one basket and was more interested in tourism & convention business-and while tourism promotion is great, areas that become reliant on tourism many times have a hiccup and it goes to show that diversification keeps communities moving.
Hawaii in recent years has seen declines, and of course Las Vegas as well.
As it appears right now, they are trying to build up the tourist traffic again---Hopefully those powers that be will attempt to look at air cargo distribution as something the area could really build on.

[Edited 2009-07-18 07:53:11]

User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5048 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Air New Orleans and L'Express were based there too IIRC.


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User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2831 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 13):
Perfect ingredients for a cargo hub. But for whatever reason, that wasn't done. Lack of vision, I suppose. Most of the cargo that isn't on barges is loaded onto trucks and trains shipside and sent on its way. A few of the railroads have large intermodal facilities in the area.



Quoting Ridgid727 (Reply 14):
It's really too bad they haven't tried to do something like this. It appears that prior to Katrina they placed all their eggs in one basket and was more interested in tourism & convention business-and while tourism promotion is great, areas that become reliant on tourism many times have a hiccup and it goes to show that diversification keeps communities moving.

I hear what you all are saying....and i dont want to get too far off the OT., but as a native of the Crescent City with strong family ties to the area.....you can write a freakin' book on why that did not happen. In a nut shell, Orleans and Jeff Parish are NOT business friendly...and that is why energy and shipping concerns fled to Houston, Mobile, etc. LONG before Katrina. I totally agree that at one time, NOLA had the potential to be the transportation and logistics axis that Miami, Houston or even Norfolk are today...but i am afraid that political, demographic, education and public policy decisions made (or not made) over the second half of the 20th century have left the region in the position its in today.


User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1034 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2808 times:



Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 16):
I hear what you all are saying....and i dont want to get too far off the OT., but as a native of the Crescent City with strong family ties to the area.....you can write a freakin' book on why that did not happen. In a nut shell, Orleans and Jeff Parish are NOT business friendly...and that is why energy and shipping concerns fled to Houston, Mobile, etc. LONG before Katrina. I totally agree that at one time, NOLA had the potential to be the transportation and logistics axis that Miami, Houston or even Norfolk are today...but i am afraid that political, demographic, education and public policy decisions made (or not made) over the second half of the 20th century have left the region in the position its in today.

As someone else with strong family ties to the area, I must say--well said.


User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6552 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2727 times:



Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 15):
L'Express were based there too IIRC.

Ah yes, how could I forget about them. I have a picture of one of their B1900's on my wall.  Wink

Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 16):
I hear what you all are saying....and i dont want to get too far off the OT., but as a native of the Crescent City with strong family ties to the area.....you can write a freakin' book on why that did not happen. In a nut shell, Orleans and Jeff Parish are NOT business friendly...and that is why energy and shipping concerns fled to Houston, Mobile, etc. LONG before Katrina. I totally agree that at one time, NOLA had the potential to be the transportation and logistics axis that Miami, Houston or even Norfolk are today...but i am afraid that political, demographic, education and public policy decisions made (or not made) over the second half of the 20th century have left the region in the position its in today.

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Again...well said.


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