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Any Good Books On Pan Am & TWA?  
User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1651 posts, RR: 11
Posted (5 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

Hey guys, I've always wanted to find out as much as I can about these two great airlines. There do seem to be some titles available on Amazon.com and on eBay, but I can't tell which are the real deal, and which are ridiculously overpriced books with nothing but photos and a few captions saying obvious stuff like 'Pan Am had a hub at JFK...TWA operated 747s...
I'm looking for a meaty, insider book that shows how, why and when everything happened. A book that takes readers into these airlines. I did pick up a book called 'The Pan Am Journey' by Thomas Kewin which although interesting, was basically nothing but a collection of anecdotes and recollections, and none too detailed.
So...any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineLegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2050 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

i just finished "SKY GODS" by Robert Gandt . It is a very good book about the rise and fall of Pan AM.


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User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

And if you ever want to see how each of these greats worked together (ironically even in the era of terrific regulated competition, many airlines worked together on multiple levels) I'd highly recommend 'Hard Landing'.

That book has inspired more people to join the airline ranks than any others I know.. which may or may not be a good thing.  Smile



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24786 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4794 times:

R.E.G Davies has a nice pictorial book of aircraft and network operated by both carriers.

Pan Am one is called - Pan Am: An Airline and Its Aircraft
TWA one is - TWA : An Airline and Its Aircraft

Then there is a wonderful large coffee table book on Pan Am with some great rare photos called Pan Am: An Aviation Legend by Barnaby Conrad.

I'm sure of you check Amazon they should have many titles.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24786 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Although published in 1982, a decade before Pan Am's demise, "Chosen Instrument" is another good book covering Pan Am up to that date. It's basically a detailed biography (almost 600 pages) of Juan Trippe, Pan Am's founder and long-time CEO who died at age 81 in 1981. You can probably find a used copy on Amazon etc. for a few dollars.

User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4712 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 1):
SKY GODS" by Robert Gandt .

Great book.

Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 2):
'Hard Landing'.

I emphatically second this. Possibly one of my all time favorites (aviation or not).

If you don't already own it, go buy this book now.

As for PA, I really enjoyed "Fasten your seat belts" by PA F/A Valerie Lester & "Turbulence on the ground," by Ed Parrey. Neither of these are particularly academic, but are enjoyable reads from people that were there.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4666 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Thread starter):

Excellent book, I have a copy myself. Probably the best account of PanAm's demise. It's written by an ex-PanAm captain named Bob Gandt, who went on to fly for DL until his retirement.

Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 2):
I'd highly recommend 'Hard Landing'.

Another outstanding read that I also own. Unfortunately, the fall of TWA is so recent that there really aren't any up-to-date books on it. Airways Magazine did a nice tribute magazine on each airline not too long ago, but they were so popular they're out of print. The most informative book I've read on TWA was written in 1983 by Robert Serling, called "Howard Hughes' Airline: An Informal History of TWA." It's currently out of print, but is still available at local libraries. I have read each of Serling's airline histories: they are outstanding. It's just a shame no one has followed up on the details of each airline he wrote about.



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User currently offlineL1011Lover From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 989 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4648 times:

I highly recommend the book:

"GLAMOUR AND TURBULENCE - I remember Pan Am, 1966-91"

by Aimée Bratt

Vantage Press, Inc.

ISBN: 0-533-11972-3

$ 11.95

From the back cover:

"Glamour and Turbulence: I remember Pan Am, 1966-91, by Aimée Bratt, tells the tale of the inevitable demise of Pan Am from the viewpoint of one who served on the front lines. For close to thirty years, Ms. Bratt was a flight attendant for the once-revered airline.
She saw it all and relates to her readers stories fro the glory days, when being a Pan Am employee was a prestigious position, being associated with a class act; to the frightening days when terrorism and anti-Americanism ruled the skies; and, finally, to that sad time when waste and increased competition brought this once-proud airline low.

AIMÉE BRATT was born in Sweden but grew up all over the world, as her father was a diplomat. She continued her globe-trotting ways as a flight attendant with Pan Am for close to three decades. Ms. Bratt is currently flying for Delta as an in-flight coordinator, however, she looks back on her Pan Am days with fondness, and has written her first book, Glamour and Turbulence, to tell her story of those years."

Try to get a copy... it's absolutely worth it and a must read for all Pan Am enthusiasts.

Best regards,
L1011Lover

[Edited 2009-07-19 18:12:36]

[Edited 2009-07-19 18:13:17]

User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 660 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4628 times:

Another really good Pan Am FA memoir is "The Company We Kept" by Jay Koren.

User currently offlineAirFrnt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2824 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4584 times:



Quoting Legacyins (Reply 1):
i just finished "SKY GODS" by Robert Gandt . It is a very good book about the rise and fall of Pan AM.



Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 2):
I'd highly recommend 'Hard Landing'.

These two books are really mandatory reading for any airline enthusiast, and a nightmare for any airline investor.


User currently offlinePsa188 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 505 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Airways published "Airways Classics" special editions on both PA and TW. I recommend both.

User currently offlineIFlyTWA From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Excellent book on Trans World Airlines:

Howard Hughes' Airline: An Informal History of TWA by Robert Serling



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User currently offlineFloorrunner From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 259 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4521 times:

Get a copy of the "China Clipper"

It's about the early years of Pan Am. It was also made into a movie in 1936 starring Humphrey Bogart.


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1651 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4481 times:



Quoting MrSkyGuy (Reply 2):
And if you ever want to see how each of these greats worked together (ironically even in the era of terrific regulated competition, many airlines worked together on multiple levels) I'd highly recommend 'Hard Landing'.

The book by Thomas Petzinger, right? There are several books with that name. Looks like a good book-594 pages. I know I'll be happy with that for quite some time.



Thanks guys for offering so many great titles! I'm going to devote my day to look through eBay and Amazon.com for the best deals. Problem is, the books aren't always in print so I can't bulk order them from Amazon.com like I normally do.
Cheers  Smile


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