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Unknown B787 At Kpae  
User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17138 times:
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Which B787 is this in the photo below

http://paineairport.com/kpae2253.htm

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User currently offlineARMEDnPISSED From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17157 times:

Looks like a KE tail.

[Edited 2009-07-21 00:47:30]

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 12883 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17136 times:



Quoting AeroplaneFreak (Thread starter):
Which B787 is this in the photo below

Looks like Dreamliner 1.

Quoting ARMEDnPISSED (Reply 1):
Looks like a KE tail...

That is more likely a 777 airframe.


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User currently offlineRsg85 From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17146 times:

Its definatly a KE tail but its definatly not a 787, try 777

User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5886 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17145 times:
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Not seen this livery on the 787 yet - very nice too.

Might it be an ANA bird but with a 787 tail like they did with the 777?

Also is that a DHL 772F in front? With a Brit rego? I had no idea they were ordering them! Nice!


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24550 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17125 times:

When the hell did DHL order 767s anyway?


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 12883 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17124 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 4):
Also is that a DHL 772F in front?

That one looks more like a 767. Look at the tailcone, it isn't a screwdriver type.


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User currently offlineSXI899 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2008, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17080 times:

The G-DHLE is apparently the first of three B763Fs that DHL Air UK has on order.


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User currently offlineARMEDnPISSED From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16985 times:

I'm thinking its another one of KE's 77Ws? Anyone know when this is supposed to be delivered?

User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2055 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16974 times:

Hmm, a lot of missunderstandings here, right?
Aeroplanefreak is right - after dreamliners one and the ANA 787 it's definitly a new kid on the block. Just compare the picture given in the link above with the pictures of dreamliner one:

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 12883 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16957 times:



Quoting N14AZ (Reply 9):

Now that you mention it.... the pic that the OP has linked is not Dreamliner 1.


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5886 posts, RR: 68
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16890 times:
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LOL so i was the one who noted the subtle changes in the 787 livery but then mistook the 767 for a 772LRF lol

Oh dear Big grin


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16856 times:

Maybe ZA005 with GEnx engines - hence a different livery?


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5886 posts, RR: 68
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16789 times:
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It looks a bit like the ANA "Waves" livery they had on their 773A when it was delivered. JA752A.


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What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 6497 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16770 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 11):
LOL so i was the one who noted the subtle changes in the 787 livery but then mistook the 767 for a 772LRF lol

Well I hard time to see if this is a 767-200 or 767-300 because the aircraft looked so short in comparison with the 787 and 77W in the background......


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User currently offlineBrendows From Norway, joined Apr 2006, 1020 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 16708 times:



Quoting WestWing (Reply 13):
Maybe ZA005 with GEnx engines - hence a different livery?

I believe you're right, ZA005 went into the paint hangar on the 9th of July.

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 6081 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 16642 times:

Looks like it's N787FT. View from the other side here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/3741577106/


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User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 16490 times:
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So which ZA is it? And is it still there?

User currently offlineFrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1032 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16284 times:



Quoting Brendows (Reply 15):
Quoting WestWing (Reply 13):
Maybe ZA005 with GEnx engines - hence a different livery?


I believe you're right, ZA005 went into the paint hangar on the 9th of July.

And the same day ZA006 went to Building 40-24 on the 767 line, according to Flightblogger. ZA004 is still at the FAL, along with ZA100 and soon to be joined there by ZA101.

Just not sure where ZA003 went, perhaps to the 767 line as well?

All these moves make me slightly optimistic that the fix to the wings may not be that drastic a design change and consequently a delay as predicted by some. We may still see a number of 787's in the air somewhere in Q4crossfingers  Hopefully Boeing will announce some trustworthy news soon.


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User currently offlinePlunaCRJ From Uruguay, joined Nov 2007, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 5 days ago) and read 15898 times:

What a a terrible looking livery. I for another airline's color to show up, a la ANA. I understand they wanted to paint it in a "Boeing livery", but why not in the "famous-ultra publicized" Dreamliner livery 787 1 wears?


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 20630 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15731 times:



Quoting PlunaCRJ (Reply 19):

Because that livery is now dated and a symbol of mismanagement?


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User currently offline757GB From Uruguay, joined Feb 2009, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 15173 times:

It looks like a "for now" livery to go through the tests. If the prototypes get sold as VIP aircraft for example they will obviously be repainted. Same if some airline decides to go for them. Originally I liked Flightblogger's idea of using retro liveries for the test fleet, however that would probably be pretty expensive. And "low key" seems best at this point, at least until fixes are in place and the program leaves the troubles behind.


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User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2075 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14765 times:

If you look at the FAA database for N-number registrations, there is a serial number field.
Here is the mapping of serial numbers to registrations.

40690 is N787BA
40691 is N787EX
40692 is N787BX
40693 is N7874
40694 is N787FT
40695 is N787ZA

Ergo, one could deduce that this aircraft ( N787FT ) is ZA005 and that ZA006 will be N787ZA.
Jon had already disclosed the registrations for ZA003 and ZA004 in his July 3rd blog entry.


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User currently offlineSimpilot459 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14475 times:

I have to agree, with all the set backs, a change in looks might be in order, like what airlines sometimes do.

I can't see the the entire plane from the pictures, but it looks like it might be a variation of the Dreamlifter livery.


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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4001 posts, RR: 48
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13899 times:



Quoting WestWing (Reply 22):
Ergo, one could deduce that this aircraft ( N787FT ) is ZA005 and that ZA006 will be N787ZA.
Jon

Interesting... earlier cns 34488 and 34489 (ANA), 34636 and 34638 (NW) 35507 and 35508 (RAM) were quoted.
Also the after l/n 6, l/n 7 would be the first ANA production machine, JA801A (34490). Is that one now ZA100? Will it get a new c/n too? Will they skip 7 to 99?


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25 Stitch: Boeing has re-sequenced all the production bird assignments, starting with ZA100. So ZA007-ZA099 will not be used.
26 LHRSpotter: I think he meant the one in the middle with 787 on the tail.
27 Brendows: I believe it's still on one of the slant positions on the 747 FAL.
28 Dragon6172: I can not help but chuckle at this. The OP asks about a 787, posts a picture link that clearly has a plane with the vertical tail emblazoned with "78
29 MCIGuy: IMO, there's no such thing as 'trustworthy news" from Boeing anymore. I don't believe a word they say.
30 Post contains links Nycbjr: Jon has some better pics.. http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...nveiled-za005-leaves-the-pain.html euro white Boeing style
31 Zhutton: Ooooh, that looks sexy, and that's a very smart & simple livery, miles better that the blue dreamliner one, ans is it me or is the APU exhaust cone v
32 Post contains images MCIGuy: So why the new look? Is it: 1: Trying to signify a "rebirth" of the program. 2: The first jet with GE engines. 3: Going to eventually carry a customer
33 Tdscanuck: I wouldn't go so far as terrible...just kind of boring. Probably not good protocol to slap a customer's livery on a plane they won't be receiving. I
34 SurfandSnow: What ever happened to those proposed Horizon Air flights out of Paine Field?? I'm assuming they met as much support as Southwest's proposal to leave S
35 Tdscanuck: Not happening anytime soon...the neighbors got restless. Not quite that bad, and not barred by government fiat as the SWA deal now is, but definitely
36 Rsg85: This was a reply in regards to post number 2, the 787 tail stood out like dogs balls.
37 Starglider: Or perhaps, looking at the registration N787FT and the color of the vertical stabilizer, Flying Tigers are back in business Starglider
38 Zhutton: Or N787FT could be.. N- USA 787- A/C FT- Flight Test Zakk
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