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Iraqi Airways To Stansted And Karachi  
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8998 times:

News section of IA website http://translate.google.com/translat...om/AirqAirways/index.php%26hl%3Den

2009-06-30

Iraqi Airways at London and Karachi

The Iraqi Airways deal on flights to Britain and Pakistan after a hiatus of more than 19 years. The attorney general manager of Iraqi Airways said the deal was signed with Britain and Pakistan, where would be the first flight out of Baghdad International Airport through Turkish airspace and then to London Stansted. The second flight from Baghdad International Airport, the direction of the Pakistani city of Karachi.

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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8934 times:

Good news that things get a bit more normal over there after years of war. Any idea what kind of equipment they will use?

User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8928 times:

Good news! Which aircraft will operate these routes?


seemyseems
User currently offlineStylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8916 times:

why they mention the Turkish airspace?

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8857 times:

Here is a fleet page they have on their website. Why bother with the older aircraft?
http://www.iraqiairways.co.uk/en/fleet.htm


User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8833 times:

This is great news.Although im surprised they have chosen Karachi over other cities in the area such as Dubai or Doha.

It seems they are onto the 6th freedom traffic between Pakistan and UK,seem to be exhibiting better business sense then PIA already.Actually there is also O&D demand between Pakistan and Iraq specially for religious sites in Iraq which hold alot of religious significance to the members of the Shi'a Muslim community.

What equipment are they going to be using?

Wow Iraqi Airways into KHI,this is going to be exciting!


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8831 times:

Will be good to hear more details about this.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineVC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1030 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8556 times:

I'm having trouble with Google Translate. How many services a week to STN and KHI will Iraqi Airways be operating initially?

User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2797 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8422 times:

I suppose this means BMI can now fly to Iraq. I remember hearing rumors about a London-Baghdad service (via an intermediate gateway to avoid having crew stay in what essentially remains an active warzone). I wonder if such plans will materalize. Iraqi Airways did follow through with plans to launch Stockholm service, so I do believe they will push ahead with these new cities too.


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlinePaulcaz From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 8202 times:

I was in Istanbul a few weeks ago they were using a Boeing 737 with the reg of SE-RJA


Paul Newman Ascot UK
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7672 times:

STN starts 6 August http://en.aswataliraq.info/?p=116788

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

Very interesting! So, it will be thrice-weekly. I wonder timings, fares and aircraft.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7230 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 4):
Here is a fleet page they have on their website. Why bother with the older aircraft?
http://www.iraqiairways.co.uk/en/fle...t.htm



Quote:
IRAQI AIRWAYS the oldest airline in the Middle East is in the process of modernizing its fleet with new generation aircrafts Boeing 757, 767 and Airbus. The Below list of aircraft is of the operational fleet before 1990. Most of these aircraft are still grounded all over the world.

Few months back I saw one 747 grounded (looks as if grounded for very long time) at RYD.


User currently offlineLEEDS19 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2008, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7060 times:



Quoting KHI747 (Reply 5):
This is great news.Although im surprised they have chosen Karachi over other cities in the area such as Dubai or Doha.

Iraqi Airways already flies to from Dubai with at least 2 flights a day on AVE.COM aircraft.It seems the 73Gs they operate are almost exclusively used on Umrah flts to Saudi Arabia according to thier arabic website.They are also flying a pair of 737-200s YI-APY/APZ in Al-Naser Airlines colours.Cant see any of these been used to the UK though.


User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 6903 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 1):
Any idea what kind of equipment they will use?

Iraqi Airways to use Blue Wings A320s to serve Europe

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...e-wings-a320s-to-serve-europe.html

Quote:
Iraqi Airways is intending to use aircraft from German carrier Blue Wings to re-open services between Baghdad and Europe, including flights to London.

The Iraqi transport ministry says it has signed a lease agreement for three Airbus A320s from the Dusseldorf-based carrier.

Iraqi Airways says the aircraft will be configured with 165 seats and operate to countries in Europe, and points to the opening of a Baghdad-London route.

So now we know which type of aircraft and from where it is coming from.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

IA website now also listing Karachi and Antalya but without schedules, they have dropped Mashhad on the other hand.

User currently offlineSpud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6462 times:

wonder why STN and not LHR or LGW as these are the primary choice for most international airlines flying to London? Is it purely down to slots or is there another reason such as security? Doesn't STN have some sort of special designation for security reasons?

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6421 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 15):
IA website now also listing Karachi and Antalya but without schedules,

And Bahrain which starts 14 August.


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6312 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
STN starts 6 August

Did this happen yesterday???



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6266 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 18):
Quoting 777way (Reply 10):
STN starts 6 August

Did this happen yesterday???

It did not.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6101 times:

Bluewings Germany will bring in three A320 in a full-service lease contract to Iraqi Airways

User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 5982 times:

Now said to be going to Gatwick from later this month according to wikipedia.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19097 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

This is not necessarily an indication of demand for flights to and from Iraq, but the following countries have significant/fairly large Iraqi populations (note, I have only included Europe, Africa and the Middle East):

Syria - 2m = largest Iraqi population outside Iraq. Probably a significant number of refugees.
Jordan - 1m = second-largest Iraqi population outside Iraq. As above re. refugees.
UK - 450,000
Israel - 250,000-450,000 depending on what you read.
Iran - 250,000. A lot are refugees.
Egypt - 150,000
Germany - 150,000
Lebanon - 100,000. A lot are refugees.
UAE - 100,000
Yemen - 100,000. A lot are refugees.
Turkey - 60,000-90,000
Sweden - 70,000+
Netherlands: 43,000

[Edited 2009-08-08 09:36:42]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5830 times:



Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
Now said to be going to Gatwick from later this month according to wikipedia.

Another forum mentions LGW started today, with 737-400 of Swedish carrier Tor Air, thrice weekly via Istanbul.


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 859 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

Blue Wings already serves Dusseldorf - Baghdad  Wink

25 777way : The News, Sunday, August 09, 2009 ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Iraq on Saturday agreed to operate 14 flights in a week between various cities of both count
26 777way : IA have indefinitely postponed service to London and schedule has been removed from their website, Mashhad on the other hand has been resumed again, i
27 Hamlet69 : On a somewhat related note, does anyone have an update on when IA will start receiving their 30 737-800's? IIRC, originally EIS was planned for 2011.
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