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Newest G-650 Pic Released.  
User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

I got an email containing the released copy of the G-650 in production. Some websites have it posted. The aircraft is coming along and from the picture you can see the relative size do to people standing next to her. She is still on shoring but has engines, landing gear, M.E.D. and such on. I hear that the elcetricians are running the wiring and that power on's will start soon. She still has some time before we see paint on it. This one will probably never have an " interior " because it is 6001. Gulfstream likes to give the first aircraft and I hear the first 4 of this model to flight test and so they will be outfitted with test instruments in the cabin. Anywho, if you can find the picture on the net let me know what you think.

P.S.
My buddies at Gulfstream say that the most notable thing on this aircraft is the wing. It is huge when compared to the rest of the fleet, much more prominent than even the G550.

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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8989 times:



Quoting Wassupsf (Thread starter):
Some websites have it posted.

It would help to link to those websites.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8835 times:



Quoting Racko (Reply 1):
Quoting Wassupsf (Thread starter):
Some websites have it posted.

It would help to link to those websites.

It's on Gulfstream's own website, in a June 26 press release.
http://www.gulfstream.com/news/releases/2009/062609.htm

The photo:

http://www.gulfstream.com/news/releases/_images/GAC_G650_hirez.jpg


User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2495 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8817 times:



Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
The photo:

My baby!  cloudnine  cloudnine  cloudnine 

Their factory looks spotless.  Wow!



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8610 times:

Man that is basically a Or**sm with wings! I can't wait to see the finished product rolled out. It does look to be massive too.


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User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8586 times:

This is the brand new production facility, sorry I am not to good with links and post of others pics. Anyhow, they built this entire facility just for the G-650. As you can see in the pic the build up is done in the back. The wings and engines come in built already on the side of the building to the left of the picture. There is room for maybe four 650's at a time in there.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8538 times:
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Is the wing assembly done at Vought in TX?

Back in 2001, I got an insider's tour of the Boeing 737/757 line. I got to walk around, underneath, and inside of partially assembled 737s and 757s. It was amazing.

Then I got a tour at Vought's Gulfstream wing line. We started at one end, where raw sheets of aluminum and buckets of rivets were delivered, and progressed along the line until we reached complete GIV and GV wings.

As good as that Boeing tour was, I must say...the Vought tour blew it away.

2H4



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User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8492 times:

No my friends told me that Vought didn't get the wing on the 650, it is being made by someone else. I can't remember their name but it has been a very rough transition but progress is displayed with 6001. This is the first none Vought wing that I know of.

User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8448 times:

Sorry I am all excited, I was in there the day they brought out the scale model and had the big webcast. I love Gulfstreams and loved flying on them. I was a Service Center tech for a while and test flew on everything from a G-II to a G-550. I never got achance on the G-100 or -200 fleet but that doesn't really bother me. Flying around and getting paid to ride in the cabin of a G-550 at 52,000 feet is one of my most cherished events. I hope that I can sneak my way onto a 650. I can't wait to see this thing fly.+

User currently offlineMicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8418 times:

Gulfstreams are awesome. No doubt about it. However, I don't think this plane looks too unique or exciting. Keep in mind I am just commenting on the looks of the plane.


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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8321 times:

Aside from having one more window than the G550 (and updated cockpit windows), it appears wider...or is that the wing that's wider, making the fuselage appear shorter?? All in all, nice-looking jet, if not slightly tubbier than its older siblings


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User currently offlineRhodylee From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 85 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8313 times:

The wing is made by Spirit Aerosystems

http://spiritaero.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=62


User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2495 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8286 times:



Quoting Micstatic (Reply 9):
However, I don't think this plane looks too unique or exciting. Keep in mind I am just commenting on the looks of the plane.

IMO though, for the price range it is much better and sleeker looking than the BBJ or ACJ, and very much faster. But if you'd prefer the bigger aircraft or Boeing or Airbus names, then that's a choice a customer would have to make.

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 10):
Aside from having one more window than the G550 (and updated cockpit windows), it appears wider...or is that the wing that's wider, making the fuselage appear shorter?? All in all, nice-looking jet, if not slightly tubbier than its older siblings

From the Wiki: "To provide better usage of the internal volume, Gulfstream designers rejected the usual circular fuselage cross-section in favor of a complex oval which uses four distinct radii. The cabin is to be 8.5 feet wide and 6 feet 5 inches high and of metal construction (composite construction will be used in empennage, winglets, rear pressure bulkhead, engine cowlings, cabin floor structure and many fairings). The sixteen oval cabin windows are 28 inches (71 cm) wide."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulfstream_G650



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8251 times:

Nice looking picture, but the more I look at it, the more it starts to look like a Global Express. I'll be more interested when we get some flight numbers on the G650. It looks good and all, but I really want to see the top speed of the G650, and see if it truely beats the Citation X, with the new winglets. That'll be the true test.


-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineNjxc500 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

Good looking aircraft, but in my opinion there is too much hype about the top speed debate. The Citation X was designed to cruise fast from the get go. Gulfstreams are fast, but in practice these large cabin bizjets are cruising in the low 8's. If you look at the filed speeds for Globals and Gulfs, you will see lots cruising from .82 to .85 even though their top speed is .89. Flightaware shows the citations filing with speeds significantly higher.

When will we see a SSBJ? That will really change the rules.

Nick


User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8037 times:

Gulfstream already has a super sonic idea and the prototype extendable nose boom that will allow for over land SS travel. When will Congress and the FAA rethink SS travel and allow producers to start. We could see everything from NYC to LAX move much much faster.

User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7711 times:

It looks pretty good! I had no idea Gulfstream was this far in production.


Student - KELN
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2505 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7650 times:



Quoting Njxc500 (Reply 14):
Good looking aircraft, but in my opinion there is too much hype about the top speed debate. The Citation X was designed to cruise fast from the get go. Gulfstreams are fast, but in practice these large cabin bizjets are cruising in the low 8's. If you look at the filed speeds for Globals and Gulfs, you will see lots cruising from .82 to .85 even though their top speed is .89. Flightaware shows the citations filing with speeds significantly higher.

Yeah, she will be fast. From Gulfstream.com:

"With its powerful Rolls-Royce BR725 engines, the G650 will cover shorter distances at a speed of Mach 0.925. No traditional business jet will take you closer to the speed of sound."


From Cessna.com

"The Citation X is the fastest civilian aircraft in the sky, cruising just shy of the sound barrier at Mach .92."



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User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1630 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7588 times:



Quoting Tjwgrr (Reply 17):
"The Citation X is the fastest civilian aircraft in the sky, cruising just shy of the sound barrier at Mach .92."

Yes, the Citation X can cruise at .92. However, with the new blended type winglet that is in the process of being STC for a retrofit, they claim up to a 12 knot increase in cruise speed. Was is that going to work out as in mach? I'd look for Cessna to be all over getting that speed out of the winglets, just to try to beat Gulfstream.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4700 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6294 times:



Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 18):

Yes, the Citation X can cruise at .92. However, with the new blended type winglet that is in the process of being STC for a retrofit, they claim up to a 12 knot increase in cruise speed. Was is that going to work out as in mach? I'd look for Cessna to be all over getting that speed out of the winglets, just to try to beat Gulfstream.

I think the 12 knot increase refers to more normal cruise speeds in the M .80-85 range. M .92 is the legal limit for the aircraft, and I doubt winglets will change this



Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineWassupsf From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

I know that the Citation X is the fastest and that the 650 will only be marginally faster, but seriously, can they really compare with the comfort and size of a Gulf? nope.

User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6148 times:

Nothing like a narrow-body airplane for a very longhaul flight. There is only one way to go and that is Gulfstream.


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User currently offlineNbgskygod From United States of America, joined May 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

Looks like the EVS lens is now going to be located above the nosecone rather than below, like in the 450 and 550srs. Its a simmilar position that Global has placed their EVS type lens as well.


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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8956 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5645 times:
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Quoting Wassupsf (Reply 20):
I know that the Citation X is the fastest and that the 650 will only be marginally faster, but seriously, can they really compare with the comfort and size of a Gulf? nope.

Nevertheless, the value of being able to claim "fastest" is not insignificant.

2H4



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User currently offlineNjxc500 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5462 times:

Being the fastest is a big and significant claim from a marketing point of view, but in these larger bizjets, they don't seem to utilize what they have, and most won't utilize the extra with this one either......

25 2H4 : That's all I'm saying. 2H4
26 Speedbird128 : IIRC the G650 was supposed to be able to do JNB-LHR at .88 (or was it .89). Even at .87 is faster than anything on that route....
27 Wassupsf : They moved the EVS so that the captured image would be closer to the pilots line of site, still I wonder how the new windows will be since there are n
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