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User currently offlineCaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 364 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7203 times:
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Does anyone have any information on how successful Emirates' DXB-LAX flights are? Just curious as I hope Emirates will continue to serve LAX.

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User currently offlineDanVS From Brazil, joined Jul 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7043 times:

As for today's (July 22nd) flight, EK215 is showing on Expedia.com with:
214/216 economy (99%)
35/42 business (83%)
5/8 first (62,5%)


User currently offlineDAL763ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6805 times:
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Quoting DanVS (Reply 1):
As for today's (July 22nd) flight, EK215 is showing on Expedia.com with:
214/216 economy (99%)
35/42 business (83%)
5/8 first (62,5%)

How can you see the loads on expedia?



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6748 times:

I'm sure this link between two iconic international cities that facilitate global trade, entertainment, and commerce will remain. It has now gone to daily. I doubt it would have if it wasn't doing well.


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineDanVS From Brazil, joined Jul 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6431 times:



Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 2):
How can you see the loads on expedia?

Just click on "preview seat availability" under each flight on the results page.


User currently offlineFlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6357 times:

233/216 economy
32/42 business
3/8 first

actual booked


User currently offlineDanVS From Brazil, joined Jul 2009, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6300 times:



Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 5):

233/216 economy
32/42 business
3/8 first
actual booked

Thanks for the info!  Smile
So it seems economy was overbooked (therefore, it flew completely full).
Business and first showed a higher load in Expedia most likely due to blocked seats.


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6282 times:

that seems to be pretty darned impressive for such a long thin route during a global economic meltdown.

Good work 772LR! Making money.



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User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6282 times:



Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 5):
233/216 economy
32/42 business
3/8 first

That's certainly not bad at all. But off course 1 flight doesn't say a lot, especially since it is peak summer right now. Is it doing well in general?


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1686 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 6233 times:

Not bad at all...touch wood! I wonder how SFO is doing...?

User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 6192 times:

My EK account manager said both LAX and SFO are doing well, but there has been a different mix for each city. He said SFO has tended stronger in the Economy Cabin, but weaker up front, while LAX has performed very well in the front of the cabin, but less well in the back. (Of course the loads for today's flight might not align with that generality, but that is what he said).

In any case he said LAX was doing very well for EK, especially since going to daily. But it might just be all Sales talk, who knows....


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day ago) and read 6119 times:

Has their been any word on IAH performance since QR started competition. I am sure that the impact has been marginal.....maybe more effect on cargo than anything else.

I passed by the QR gate a couple of days ago, and there were only about 50 people sitting around 1 hour prior to departure....granted, they were probably all in the lounge!



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3956 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 5956 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 11):
Has their been any word on IAH performance since QR started competition. I am sure that the impact has been marginal.....maybe more effect on cargo than anything else.

I passed by the QR gate a couple of days ago, and there were only about 50 people sitting around 1 hour prior to departure....granted, they were probably all in the lounge!

Here are the numbers for QR, via IAH Spotters and HAS.....

Qatar Airways deplaned 5672 pax and enplaned 5070 pax. Load factors were 73% to
IAH and 65% from IAH.


Can't say that QR was on fire, hopefully these numbers will pick up.

And the numbers for some of IAH's other carriers.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iahspottersclub/message/30840

Thomas



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12476 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 20 hours ago) and read 5829 times:



Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 12):
Qatar Airways deplaned 5672 pax and enplaned 5070 pax. Load factors were 73% to
IAH and 65% from IAH.

Can't say that QR was on fire, hopefully these numbers will pick up.

And the numbers for some of IAH's other carriers.

Doesn't sound too bad at all; I'm assuming that, IAH being a major oil city, a significant proportion of these would be in J class.


User currently offlineAbrelosojos From Venezuela, joined May 2005, 5100 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 18 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

Seat maps on Expedia, other OTA's, or even the airline's own sites are a VERY rudimentary estimate of LF's. Seats are shown as occupied for operational reasons, top FF's, bulk-head, non-assigned seats, etc.

Saludos,
A.



Live, and let live.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 5332 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 14):
Seat maps on Expedia, other OTA's, or even the airline's own sites are a VERY rudimentary estimate of LF's. Seats are shown as occupied for operational reasons, top FF's, bulk-head, non-assigned seats, etc.

I fully agree with the above observation, the same happens on AF/KL websites.

Rgs,


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

"Emirates saw a 3.21% decrease. They deplaned 6215 pax and enplaned 7574 pax.
Load factors were 78% to IAH and 95% from IAH."

Why the huge discrepancies on the outbound vs inbound.?

"Singapore Airlines had an increase of 26.53%. They deplaned 3290 pax and
enplaned 3679 pax. Load factors were 70% to IAH and 78% from IAH." This is much much better that the 40% they used to average.....with the huge cargo and the *A codeshare with Co coming up I see that this route should make it after a rocky start.



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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2091 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 5218 times:



Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 14):
Seat maps on Expedia, other OTA's, or even the airline's own sites are a VERY rudimentary estimate of LF's. Seats are shown as occupied for operational reasons, top FF's, bulk-head, non-assigned seats, etc.

Yep, Expedia indeed isn't a reliable source for the loads. They have only a limited access on the seats of the airlines.

Axel



Wer nichts weiss muss alles glauben
User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months ago) and read 4950 times:



Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 12):
Here are the numbers for QR, via IAH Spotters and HAS.....

Qatar Airways deplaned 5672 pax and enplaned 5070 pax. Load factors were 73% to
IAH and 65% from IAH.

Can't say that QR was on fire, hopefully these numbers will pick up.

And the numbers for some of IAH's other carriers.

Well that's pretty good considering how new the route is. As it matures I'm sure numbers will improve as well.



Keep Discovering
User currently offlineCOflyerBOS From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

Not to totally derail this thread, but QR is opening a downtown Houston ticketing office this week. It's located in the Houston Pavilions (3 block entertainment mall with House of Blues, Lucky Strike, multiple restaurants, etc...).

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4742 times:



Quoting COflyerBOS (Reply 19):
Not to totally derail this thread, but QR is opening a downtown Houston ticketing office this week. It's located in the Houston Pavilions (3 block entertainment mall with House of Blues, Lucky Strike, multiple restaurants, etc...).

Anyone else find this interesting? Does EK have a ticketing office in Houston? It just seems like an outdated practice nowadays ... but maybe I'm wrong.



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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4714 times:



Quoting Ssides (Reply 20):
It just seems like an outdated practice nowadays ... but maybe I'm wrong.

Here in the West, absolutely. But in many other places, it remains the norm. While living in Bahrain (a country with very similar culture/standard of living to Qatar and UAE) last summer I had booked a ticket on TK and had to make a change, so I went to their ticket office. The place was absolutely packed with people making changes, booking flights, etc. I imagine many QR pax from that part of the world will welcome this move.



Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlinePHKLM From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Dec 2005, 1198 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4682 times:

I like ticket offices.
I have visited, a.o, LAN, Aerolineas Argentinas, AeruSur, TAM, KLM, Air France, Alitalia, Emirates, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines. I think they're nice and its always a good place to get some goodies and/or schedules  Smile


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6176 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4641 times:



Quoting PHKLM (Reply 22):
I like ticket offices.
I have visited, a.o, LAN, Aerolineas Argentinas, AeruSur, TAM, KLM, Air France, Alitalia, Emirates, Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines. I think they're nice and its always a good place to get some goodies and/or schedules  

I agree.

When I book CO flights that have stop overs etc in between, We cannot do so using a foreign credit card so I always go down to the CO CTO here....nice folks....always people in there buying tickets....it is what makes CO and AA succeed (and DL / US fail) in some Caribbean / LatAm destinations. Sometimes I will jsut e-mail the agent there and go down and get the ticket...almost easier than the internet, because if you want to change it...far easier ;^)



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User currently offlineTXJim From United States of America, joined May 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4599 times:

From the IAH Traffic Link:

Quote:
Air France .... Load factors were 82% to IAH and 93% from IAH



Quote:
British Airways .... Load factors were 70% to IAH and 85% from IAH



Quote:
Emirates .... Load factors were 78% to IAH and 95% from IAH



Quote:
KLM .... Load factors were 85% to IAH and 89% from IAH



Quote:
Lufthansa .... Load factors were 76% to IAH and 87% from IAH

Interesting... Does this mean that people are slowly leaving Houston? Big grin


25 DanVS : 1) It's all true, but for some selected airlines it can give us an idea of how the flight is. If it's showing full, then we certainly do not have a v
26 Yellowtail : You would think that some of the carriers would balance out the other anh have higher inbound.
27 Haan : DXB-LAX/SFO initially started of slow but the loads have picked up just great. The flights are full and doing great. I bet if Boeing would ever make a
28 Flying Belgian : You won't find any sites giving actual loads on the web, for the single reason that this is considered as sensitive commercial info for Airlines. It g
29 Post contains links Gbb777 : Slightly off topic... A very good website for planning your sub-load (staff, standby) travel is : www.seatcounter.com It actually gives the availabili
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