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A Little Competition On The Future Of Etihad  
User currently offlineKleinsim From Qatar, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4408 times:

Greetings,

We recently had a thread here about whether airline management actually checks airliners.net for information. Well, we read airliners.net for fun and to keep up to date with industry happenings but to be honest I am sure none of the information in this domain is taken too seriously – though sometimes ideas exposed here are the beginning of fruitful investigations.

Especially with regards to network management everyone on this site seems to have an opinion about what to do and what not to do. So I thought this would be fun:
Where do you think Etihad Airways will be in three year’s time, say in July 2012? What new routes will be launched or abandoned, what frequency increases or decreases will we see and how will the incoming aircraft orders of EY, QR, and EK impact the competition of the airlines in the Middle East?

I will revisit this thread in three years’ time and see who was most accurate. This will be a little test of how much airliners.net and actual airline planning match.

Obviously none of the information on this board will seriously change our network management’s decision making as I am sure they have more reliable and more sophisticated tools available to them (sorry guys).

Greetings from Abu Dhabi,

Kleinsim

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User currently offlineKleinsim From Qatar, joined Jan 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Oh, and just for giggles: Those who want to postulate the future of QR or EK are welcome to do so as well. Again, three year's time: July 2012.

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5939 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4216 times:

Somebody is bound to suggest something bizarre like 5 A380s a day between AUH and DUB or something, but realistically (on the two routes I've flown them on):

AUH - MAN double daily: probably 1 332 and 1 77W - more specifically I would anticipate the 77W operating the current EY15/16 on a daily basis, and the 332 EY21/22 also daily.

AUH - BNE: hard to tell. They seem to keep swapping this route between a 332 and a 77W. At the moment they operate 3 weekly, but to really tap in the market (especially the premium/FF traffic) they will need to increase this frequency. They've already been doing the route for 2 years and they've gone from 3x 77w to (currently) 3x 332. Therefore can we really expect anything in 3 years? I would predict it will be 3 - 5 weekly with a 332, still operating via SIN.

Other routes they might operate... again being realistic I would say that Perth isn't out of the question (can a 332 operate AUH - PER non-stop? If so I expect they'll use those, similar frequency to BNE). Also I would expect another destination in the UK. BHX or EMA would probably be most likely given the importance of the Sub-Continent to EY. If they do fly to either of these in three years, it will probably be using a similar schedule to that into MAN at present.

Beyond that, I don't knowledgeable enough to comment, but hopefully that's set the ball rolling.
Out of interest, what are your predictions Kleinsim?



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User currently offlineVeeseeten From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

Having fled Europe at the head of an angry, torch-wielding mob, newly appointed Chief Executive Officer Michael O'Leary will still be postulating the cost benefits of standing room on A380's, charging PTV's by the minute and advertising Abu Dhabi as "Dubai (or at least a short bus ride to)". Sure, some people might sniff at EY's move from 5-star to actually having a deficit of stars - but the new corporate philosophy, "sit down or get stuffed!" will cover the bases pretty nicely.

Give my regards to Michael!




*No disrespect intended to the above poster - its just a co-incidence.  Wink

[Edited 2009-07-22 02:58:24]

User currently offlineSparklehorse12 From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

My feeling is that EY will join Oneworld and/or will extend code share with QF.


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User currently offlineIncitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3932 times:



Quoting Kleinsim (Thread starter):
This will be a little test of how much airliners.net and actual airline planning match.

The real test is who makes the best decisions. Having known some of the people that make decisions at some of the Gulf carriers, I would say a.net can frequently guess better than they do.

Quoting Kleinsim (Thread starter):
Obviously none of the information on this board will seriously change our network management’s decision making as I am sure they have more reliable and more sophisticated tools available to them (sorry guys).

Though politics often gets in the way of implementing a rational plan.



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