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YX E190 First Revenue Flight Tomorrow  
User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7706 times:

Attn Spotters:

The YX E190 will make its first revenue flight tomorrow as 2312/2107 MKE-CMH-MKE. THe E190 will be replacing the E170 on MKE/ATL/CMH flights M-F next week too, before being placed on the LAX line.

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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21081 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7564 times:



Quoting N917me (Thread starter):
The YX E190

Shouldn't that be the RP E190?

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7561 times:

Is it flying into MKE today or tomorrow?


Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7514 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
Shouldn't that be the RP E190?

No, Chautauqua doesn't fly the 190.

Technically, it's an RW 190 ... but it's flying for YX, so it's easier to say it's a YX 190.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21081 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7506 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 3):
No, Chautauqua doesn't fly the 190.

Technically, it's an RW 190

Ah, thought RP was Republic, my bad.

Ok, an RW 190 then.  Smile

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7464 times:



Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 2):
Is it flying into MKE today or tomorrow?

Should arrive into MKE from IND tomorrow around 10am.

Quoting JBo (Reply 3):
No, Chautauqua doesn't fly the 190.

Technically, it's an RW 190 ... but it's flying for YX, so it's easier to say it's a YX 190.



Quoting Mir (Reply 4):
Ah, thought RP was Republic, my bad.

Ok, an RW 190 then.

Republic/Midwest.. who cares? Republic owns YX and it will be great to see a E190 in YX colors.


User currently offlineYx302 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7390 times:

Funny i posted this a couple days ago and it was removed from the forum. I dont get it.

User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2401 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7284 times:

Will the call sign be "Midex" or "Brickyard"?


Will you watch the Cleveland Browns and the Detroit Lions on Sunday? Only if coach Eric Mangini resigned after a loss.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21081 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7250 times:



Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 7):
Will the call sign be "Midex" or "Brickyard"?

Should be Brickyard.

Quoting N917me (Reply 5):
Republic/Midwest.. who cares?

I'd imagine a whole bunch of former YX pilots would, and probably some current ones as well.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7224 times:

Quoting N917me (Thread starter):
The YX E190 will make its first revenue flight tomorrow as 2312/2107 MKE-CMH-MKE

Don't they need to do proving runs first...??? Those flight numbers and routes sure read like that is what they are doing. Besides, the press release said revenue service would not start till mid Aug or early Sept.

[Edited 2009-07-22 12:44:07]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineYx302 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7170 times:

I beleive those are the test runs, no passengers. Anybody know whats up with the tail numbers? N162HL. Were does the HL come from?

User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7147 times:

No, they are live flights. Tomorrow 2312 departs MKE at 1350 arrives CMH at 1628 as 2107. Friday will include ATL. The schedule willl be that way next week M-F. This is mainly to get crews and stations prepared. The website will not relflect the 190, this will only be shown internally until the LAX flights start.

User currently offlineNorCal From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2459 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7106 times:



Quoting Mir (Reply 8):
I'd imagine a whole bunch of former YX pilots would, and probably some current ones as well.

A lot of them are really pissed


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7049 times:

Quoting N917me (Reply 11):
No, they are live flights.



Quoting N917me (Reply 11):
The schedule willl be that way next week M-F. This is mainly to get crews and stations prepared.

Your post makes no sense at all. You first said these are revenue flights, but now added these flights are to 'get the bases ready'...? Yet they have not done proving runs... so how can these be revenue...? But yet your post reads as though these are proving runs due to the flight numbers, the M-F schedule and the 'internal only' flight schedule

[Edited 2009-07-22 13:49:49]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6974 times:



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
Don't they need to do proving runs first...???



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 13):
Yet they have not done proving runs...

I don't think anybody does actual proving runs anymore.



I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6943 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 14):
I don't think anybody does actual proving runs anymore.

They are still required by the FAA. I have been part of them as recent as a year or so ago....



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineTZTriStar500 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1448 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6891 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 14):
I don't think anybody does actual proving runs anymore.

This is not true. If an airline is adding a derivative of the same fleet type, then they are generally not required. If adding an entirely different fleet type, then they are absolutely required by the FAA. It is likely that since Republic already operates the 170/175, the 190 is considered a derivative and proving runs are not necessary.

Also, sometimes airlines put new aircraft types on short distance trips initially to gain experience with them before they begin the longer routes they were intended for. This is true with new long range widebody types when added by airlines as new fleet types.



35 years of American Trans Air/ATA Airlines, 1973-2008. A great little airline that will not be soon forgotten.
User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

Again.. These flights are live revenue flights. The reason Republic is flying it early is to get some time on the airframe and get crews/stations familiar with they aircraft before launching the MKE/LAX run.

midwestairlines.com, expedia, etc are not going to be showing the flights as a 190 during this "break-in" period.


User currently offlineN917me From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 726 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6754 times:



Quoting JBo (Reply 14):
Your post makes no sense at all. You first said these are revenue flights, but now added these flights are to 'get the bases ready'...? Yet they have not done proving runs... so how can these be revenue...? But yet your post reads as though these are proving runs due to the flight numbers, the M-F schedule and the 'internal only' flight schedule

The flight numbers are acutal flight numbers used for the 170 on these routes.. Basically is a change of equipment from what we use on those flights. 2107 is normally an E170, however tommorrow, Friday and M-F next week it will be operated with E190 equipment.


User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 941 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6724 times:



Quoting Yx302 (Reply 6):
Funny i posted this a couple days ago and it was removed from the forum. I dont get it.

Don't feel bad about being cut, I've had 3 now deleted only to have someone else post it by the next day or so.



I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
User currently offlineMKENut From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 699 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6642 times:



Quoting YXwatcherMKE (Reply 19):
Don't feel bad about being cut, I've had 3 now deleted only to have someone else post it by the next day or so.

They didn't email you a reason why it was deleted?


User currently offlineYXwatcherMKE From United States of America, joined May 2007, 941 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6578 times:



Quoting MKENut (Reply 20):
They didn't email you a reason why it was deleted?

Only once they did, reason given was given was that a First Class member posted a thread very similar to mind with-in 30 minutes of mine.  boggled 



I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
User currently offlineYx302 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6538 times:



Quoting MKENut (Reply 20):

yeah mine was stated as not specific enough. I titled it MKE Spotters. Even though ive seen that title used before. Unless there was a recent post with same title, i dont know.


User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6441 times:

Quoting N917me (Reply 11):
Tomorrow 2312 departs MKE at 1350 arrives CMH at 1628 as 2107

A 1:38 flight time MKE-CMH??? I think not. You got your times confused.

Tomorrows flight MKE-CMH (2312) scheduled for 1 hour, 8 minutes gate-to-gate:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/R...2/history/20090723/1905Z/KMKE/KCMH
http://www.midwestairlines.com/Trave...ightInfo.aspx?no=2312&dt=7/23/2009

Tomorrows flight MKE-ATL (2107) scheduled for 2 hours, 5 minutes gate-to-gate:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/R...7/history/20090723/2223Z/KMKE/KATL
http://www.midwestairlines.com/Trave...ightInfo.aspx?no=2107&dt=7/23/2009

[Edited 2009-07-22 20:16:23]


Hey Obama, keep the change! I want my dollar back.
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21081 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (4 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6278 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 23):
Tomorrows flight MKE-CMH (2312) scheduled for 1 hour, 8 minutes gate-to-gate:

Flightaware doesn't list gate to gate times - they list filed flight times.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
25 N917me : My Bad...Here are the correct times listed in Sabre. 2YX*2312 Y B H V Q K W *MKECMH 150P 358P E70 0 XJ /E M T R O P G L X 2YX*2107 Y7 B7 H7 V7 Q7 K7 W
26 Pilotfox : Is it overnighting in MKE tonight?
27 Yx302 : It is overnighting in MKE tonight. Parked at D46/47. Anyone whos watching this thread early in the morning, it will arrive here at 9:55am.
28 Post contains links Tjwgrr : Arrival into IND last week: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N162HL
29 Smcmac32msn : The links from YX are the one I was using to get the gate times....
30 Post contains links Tjwgrr : IND-MKE: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RPA9030
31 JBird : You are right. There are many pilots on the street (not just YX pilots) as a result of Republic pilots willing to do there jobs for them. I realize i
32 Post contains links and images JpetekYXMD80 : Here she is around noon today, snapped these from C concourse.
33 Yx302 : Anyone else notice the "connect". That wasnt on there in its previous pictures. I looked at it up close and it seems to be a temporary decal. any idea
34 MKENut : I noticed that right away too. What gives here? Is it going to be called Midwest Connect from now on?
35 N917me : I believe if it is called "Midwest" then the YX pilots have to fly it.. by slapping the small "Connect" on there it allows the Republic pilots to fly
36 Captaink : Don't try to figure it out. The moderators leave very confused at times.. LOL
37 Post contains links N917me : As promised, here is the link to the pics of the E190 while in CMH today. There are interior and exterior pics http://gallery.me.com/yxskip#100304
38 SurfandSnow : My LAX-MKE E-190 flight is coming up on August 5th. I am looking forward to it
39 JBo : More than likely since the aircraft are on the RW certificate, they have to be branded as Midwest Connect. I think once Midwest gets fully integrated
40 Mke717spotter : What's up with the seats, are they going away from the traditional brown leather seating?
41 N917me : Im not sure, but I kind of like the blue. It looks great in person.
42 AWACSooner : Probably just another overzealous mod.
43 NorCal : Yes it has to do with the unions They'll either integrate them, fire them, or staple them to the bottom of the RAH list. In any case the few reaminin
44 Mke717spotter : Wasn't it said on here that the first two frames will come with ten signature seats and then be converted later on to have twenty? Maybe they're wait
45 N917me : They have brown signature seats from the 717's that will not fit in the 190 in a 2x2 configuration. The 20 signature seating is just going to be an E1
46 TZTriStar500 : Not only that they will not fit, but they cannot be used. Its not an easy task to change seats on a modern airliner with the 16g TSO requirements and
47 Mke717spotter : That's terrible. Now the only thing they have that makes them stand out are the cookies, and didn't you say they were gonna change that too?
48 JBo : I wonder if the 717 seats will be used in whatever permanent replacement they find for the 717s (it's been stated that the 190s will not be the perma
49 EmSeeEye : Man, I couldnt agree more! I think what they did last year to the cabins was terrible too. At my last employer we used YX exclusively to fly to LAX a
50 TZTriStar500 : They can't for the reasons I stated in Reply 46. Those seats are designed for a 5-abreast width DC-9 derivative aircraft and would be cost prohibitiv
51 YXwatcherMKE : I was not able to get to MKE thursday to see the new E190 due to family emergency. So will it be @ MKE in the afternoon so I could take pictures of bo
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