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AA Continues To Reallocate Capacity To MIA  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11962 times:

Good article from the Miami Herald about AA, and how the airline continues to reallocate more capacity to MIA this year. Year after year AA continues to grow at the airport, this winter by adding 14 daily mainline departures, including the resumption of service to Phoenix.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami-dade/story/1151870.html

The general gist of the article implies that while everybody is hurting, MIA is hurting a little less for AA, so more capacity is being shifted to the airport. Latin American RPM's were hit hard last quarter, but AA puts the blame largely on the the significant impact on Mexico traffic by the Swine Flu scare. Mexico is AA's largest Latin American country and AA is the largest U.S. carrier to Mexico. And the outlook for South America traffic remains bullish.

In addition to the expanded frequencies, AA is also reallocating a significant number more widebody capacity onto domestic MIA runs, including four daily 763s between Miami and Chicago come November.


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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 11863 times:

Thanks for the interesting information.

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
And the outlook for South America traffic remains bullish.

Good to know that the South American traffic remains strong although there has been too much increase in capacity (some specific markets suffer from over-capacity), but I think there are still interesting opportunities for AA especially in secondary markets.

At the end AA heavy presence in MIA and South America turned out to benefit the airline in the current difficult scenario.

Rgs,


User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11784 times:

When do the next round of USA-Brazil frequencies (non-GRU/GIG) become available? How many will AA apply for and for what new routes are most likely?


Ryan / HKG
User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3736 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11771 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 2):
When do the next round of USA-Brazil frequencies (non-GRU/GIG) become available?

The frequencies only exclude GRU, not GIG.


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7362 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11693 times:
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Where is MIA-AUS?  crying 

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3355 posts, RR: 45
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11673 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):

My thoughts exactly. I've been bugging Mark for 4 years now asking him where it is! Big grin

Cheers,
Cameron

[Edited 2009-07-22 15:06:07]

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11636 times:



Quoting FXramper (Reply 4):
Where is MIA-AUS?

Same place AA's E90 fleet is at.



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User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11585 times:

The 4 daily 763 btwn ORD & MIA should be a lot of fun for connections cause MIA can not sort a pod for crap. Example there is 6 pods of bags from MIA ...MIA would mix all 6 pods Local Bags/Connecting Bags/Eagle Bags/Other Airline Bags so you have to break down all 6 pods and sort them out. It was bad enough when there was 1 WB flight now with 4 and during the winter should just had to the fun.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11586 times:



Quoting Ripcordd (Reply 7):
The 4 daily 763 btwn ORD & MIA should be a lot of fun for connections cause MIA can not sort a pod for crap.

Yet 99% of all bags make it to their destination just like they are supposed to.

The ATR flights to the Bahamas always have weight balance issues that frequently delay bags to the next flight, but, especially with Nassau where a flight is landing every 75 minutes or so, its not a huge problem.



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User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 699 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11375 times:

What about MIA-SEA? Does anyone else find it odd that AA doesn't fly this route? I'm sure there's a perfectly good explanation for it but I still find it surprising that the only service on MIA-SEA is a once daily flight by AS (on which AA does codeshare).

User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1239 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11254 times:



Quoting Crosswinds21 (Reply 9):
I still find it surprising that the only service on MIA-SEA is a once daily flight by AS (on which AA does codeshare).

I guess you've answered your own question...


User currently offlineCrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 803 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11150 times:
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Does anyone really think BA/AA are going to actually offer full reciprocal miles on their transatlantic routes if ATI gets approved?  duck 

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11108 times:



Quoting CrAAzy (Reply 11):
Does anyone really think BA/AA are going to actually offer full reciprocal miles on their transatlantic routes if ATI gets approved?

Umm...that's one of the major points of getting ATI. AA/BA already offer full reciprocal miles on YVR/YUL/YYZ/MEX-LHR.



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User currently offlineCodc10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2463 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11082 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
AA is the largest U.S. carrier to Mexico


I know you wouldn't be quite so conspicuous with this claim unless you knew you were correct, but has this been the case for long? I thought CO was touting themselves as such for a while.


User currently offlineFxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7362 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11055 times:
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Quoting Codc10 (Reply 13):

AA is larger than CO; the thread starter is correct.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 11056 times:



Quoting Codc10 (Reply 13):

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
AA is the largest U.S. carrier to Mexico


I know you wouldn't be quite so conspicuous with this claim unless you knew you were correct, but has this been the case for long? I thought CO was touting themselves as such for a while.

CO has the largest network to Mexico. They fly mostly RJs, where-areas AA flies mostly mainline jets.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10996 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
and AA is the largest U.S. carrier to Mexico.

It would be a surprise if they weren't since AA has been serving Mexico longer than any other U.S. carrier -- almost 80 years.

I assume you're referring to RPMs, but doesn't CO still serve the most cities in Mexico, although many with regional jets operated by their CO Express partners? I seem to recall that was the case a few years ago but not sure if it's changed since.


User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10996 times:

The folks at ORD work very very hard to make sure that the bags make the flights a little common sense from MIA would go a long way. When ORD sends a trip to MIA unsorted they hear about it from the managers but MIA gets away with it all the time. MIA likes to use the exuse not able to sort due to rain....But it's ok when its -10 in ORD and they have to sort their mess out.

User currently offlineJDAirCEO From Uruguay, joined Jan 2006, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10918 times:

Comments about a couple routes...

Looks like CNF has really taken off in Y lately, I bet the route will do nicely this winter. SSA and REC still don't seem to be stellar with the downgrade to 757.

MVD seems to have been a strong performer in J & Y during the downturn. From what I understand, UY has avoided the financial mess. EZE-MVD will also be a 777 during part of November and December, :25mins has to be the shortest flight scheduled on a 777.

EZE looks like they have been struggling to fill the front cabins, I believe F has been empty a lot here lately.

Any other route infor out there?



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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7808 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 10918 times:

Good news for MIA.

MIA and DFW will both be up in number of flights this winter for AA YOY.



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User currently offlineMercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1724 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 10749 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Year after year AA continues to grow at the airport,

W/ the US biz markets still in the tank, it seems that airlines w/ lots of VFR traffic are still doing somewhat ok. It's the airlines w/ a higher biz market focus that seem to have taken the brunt of the hits in the 2Q results. I wonder if AA is seeing the same thing and moving heavier into the less flashy, but currently more consistent VFR markets (visiting friends and relatives).


User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 737 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10592 times:

When will the new MIA Eagle flights be announced?

AJMIA



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10594 times:



Quoting JDAirCEO (Reply 18):

EZE looks like they have been struggling to fill the front cabins, I believe F has been empty a lot here lately.

EZE is by far the best performer for premium cabins not just from MIA, but in the entire AA network.

Quoting JDAirCEO (Reply 18):
SSA and REC still don't seem to be stellar with the downgrade to 757.

The downgrade is due to lack of expected cargo demand. Passenger demand is on par with what AA was expecting. Room for improvement, but AA was aiming for 60% in the off season, 80-90% in the high season, and that is exactly how the route has performed with the 763.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10579 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 5):

My thoughts exactly. I've been bugging Mark for 4 years now asking him where it is! Big grin

...and I've been bugging Mark for MIA-MXP for two years now. Maybe one day both you and I will get good news from Mark Big grin  Wink


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11459 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 10564 times:
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Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 2):
When do the next round of USA-Brazil frequencies (non-GRU/GIG) become available? How many will AA apply for and for what new routes are most likely?

The frequencies are for 10/2010. There's no schedule for the next round but i expect that airlines will probably argue DOT to release the tentative schedule by Jan in order to have a decision no later than March/2010. In the end we will have news about this around April/May 2010, allowing airlines to begin the routes by Dec/2010. 14 frequencies will become available, and as per Coiote comment, only GRU is not available.

Quoting JDAirCEO (Reply 18):
Looks like CNF has really taken off in Y lately, I bet the route will do nicely this winter. SSA and REC still don't seem to be stellar with the downgrade to 757.

CNF is a good performer also in terms of cargo. In Jan/09, was one of the top 10 cargo routes to Brazil on a per flight basis. And Business Class market is improving (at this time with low yield, but i'm sure will become better soon)



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25 MAH4546 : AA was literally this close to launching it this winter from what I am told. Of course, launching a new trans-Atlantic market that is both quite larg
26 JDAirCEO : I agree but I know that F has been completely empty lately, and J has been struggling. I don't doubt your resources but those numbers seem a bit high
27 LAXdude1023 : You always make a big deal about that, but things wouldnt be that different. MIA might have one more European route and a few more Latin American and
28 MAH4546 : The load factors are fine. REC/SSA is doing as expected and CNF has out-performed initial expectations. In only the second month, CNF-MIA was at 80%
29 N670UW : Any chance for a 737-800 for Miami-Pittsburgh, now that AA has returned mainline into PIT? There doesn't seem to be much capacity between South Florid
30 Abrelosojos : Mark, Curious. What do you think is the single largest city with potential that is unserved from MIA? It does not have to be MIDT/O&D survey based, bu
31 MAH4546 : Milan.
32 Abrelosojos : = Ya - I was thinking of MXP or ARN ... and I have no idea where ARN stuck to my head . Saludos, A.
33 LAXdude1023 : MIA-ARN? I can picture Mark running through the streets shouting it at the top of his lungs! I do agree with Mark though. MXP is definately a market
34 CODC10 : I'm curious if you have numbers to refute this claim? Just looking at schedules, this does not seem to be the case. CO has substantially more frequen
35 Abrelosojos : = As I said, I have no idea from where I got MIA - ARN was a big market ... it wasn't Mark's flag I swear . I will have to look up the market sizes w
36 Ckfred : I can remember in the ealry 90s, when AA used to have 727s flying ORD-PIT-MIA. As for the increase in capacity at MIA, some of it is coming out of OR
37 Hardiwv : In fact MH has just axed ARN-JFK (KUL-ARN-JFK) because of poor performance. Rgs,
38 Tommy767 : How about a fourth frequency to EWR? Could we ever see 4x 757? This route had done consistently well for AA over the years
39 OP3000 : Like a lot of articles I've seen from the Miami Herald, this one tends to be bland and lacking in details, like new frequencies/routes to be added for
40 MAH4546 : FLL has scheduled charters to ARN (and CPH and OSL). MIA is ARN's third largest trans-Atlantic O&D market. That being said, never going to happen on
41 Jfk777 : SAS was supposed to begin service to Miami around 1980, sadly it never happened. In the 1990, when SAS had tons of 763ER's, it could have worked.
42 SPREE34 : GOOD answer! APA and AMR need to play well and get this equipment in the mix.
43 Ripcordd : Some of those stations that DFW only serves a couple times a week are served daily from MIA. They have a habbit of keeping stations open 7 days a week
44 PVD757 : Along with PVD-MIA (and all AA PVD service for that matter).
45 LAXdude1023 : I still cant believe AA left PVD all together.
46 Skedguy : I agree. It's true that Peter Dolara's MCLA operation has always been a de facto secondary management team for MIA / Latin America, but I think that
47 AA767400 : I believe MIA-BCN is also a solid new route. Especially if AA gets ATI/JV with IB. With all these equipment shuffles, one has to think of the surplus
48 DiscoverCSG : The MIA hub has always fascinated me - it's in a distinctive geographic location (i.e. not just another mid-continent hub) and operates a lot of route
49 MAH4546 : I don't see whats odd about that. Major domestic routes are 5 to 10x daily; most international routes are 1x-2x daily. No different than any other hu
50 SurfandSnow : Well, the deep South American flights (GRU, GIG, EZE, SCL, etc.) usually operate as redeyes, so the flights all leave in the late evening and arrive
51 Hardiwv : As far as I know GRU also has daylight operations by AA. Rgs,
52 MAH4546 : Actually, though, in the case of domestic cities with one or two dailies, the priority is connecting to the Caribbean, not the deep South America fli
53 USPIT10L : PITMIA was never seved by AA until 2003. I'm stunned he hasn't retired yet, isn't he like 75 or 80 by now?
54 C010T3 : Wasn't the daylight flight rescheduled to the evening?
55 MAH4546 : Daylight flights will continue to operate on weekends, along with three daily redeyes, starting in November.
56 Captaink : AA is larger in seats offered. (Alot more mainline) CO is larger in destinations served. (considerably more Expressjet flights to smaller cities..) I
57 Jimpop : AA also seems to have much more leg room and pitch. On Monday I few LAX-MIA on AA, exceptional service and comfort.
58 Commavia : Dolara will never go to Fort Worth - he has his own kingdom down in Coral Gables and he'll never leave it. He'll die there - quite happily. And as fo
59 DLMD90 : Umm...great if your Canadian or Mexican, but the US routes I think most people are more concerned with.
60 MAH4546 : Considering that Americans can easily connect to those flights, it works for Americans as well. Convenient? No. But if one wants to earn AA miles and
61 Moman : Moving 4x MIA-ORD flights to 767 is not a great improvement in the overall AA network. As a pax, I find it an improvement but it shows more the lack o
62 MAH4546 : It shows the need to rotate 763s between Chicago for Europe and Miami for LatAm. 763 usage to LatAm/Caribbean is very heavy this year - PAP, SDQ, MGA
63 LipeGIG : I Hope to see the 763 back to SSA/REC in the near future.
64 MAH4546 : We might sooner than later, depending on the need for 75Ls to Europe. Honestly, though, the 75L offers a better on-board product. The business class
65 LipeGIG : That's a very important point, the quality of the Y class is better on the 752 and help AA to increase their share on Northeast. There's any plan to
66 Yellowtail : retired. hardly. still wheeling and dealing. Last paragraph is correct. He does know everyone. But having met the guy, I can tell you his myth is dif
67 Commavia : Just to be clear: I was not minimizing, maligning or putting down Dolara in any way. I have known him for a long, long time and actually think quite
68 AJMIA : On 11/19 American Eagle will start... MIA-CHS MIA-TYS and MIA-SAV will be upgraded from a ATR to an RJ This is great, but I am still expecting more...
69 GSP psgr : MAH4546, two quick questions: 1)What do you think the odds of eventually seeing a MIA-NRT nonstop are? It would seem logical to try and link secondary
70 Commavia : Though I'm not Mark, I'll share my thoughts MIA-NRT would be a challenge, since the total traffic generated between Tokyo (and, really, all of Asia)
71 LAXdude1023 : Ill add something else. MIA (by far) has the least ammount of O&D to Asia of AA's hubs. The Miami/Ft. Lauderdale MSA also (again by far) has the leas
72 MAH4546 : AA has already stated their intentions publicly to fly MIA-NRT with the 787s. It's just a matter of when. Miami-Cleveland was indeed an odd cut, espec
73 N62NA : Did you fly on the 777 or 763? Biz or First Class? That's the only way I could rate AA's LAX-MIA as "exceptional comfort".... the 757s and 738s (in c
74 FlyMIA : 767's and 777's are great in any class IMO. I fly AA on the 738 monthly and for 2-3 hours I find it to be a very nice aircraft. But the 757 horrible
75 GSP psgr : The only thing I can throw out there is that Cleveland is about 50-60 miles further away from MIA than PIT and IND, and that Eagle doesn't fly a whol
76 MAH4546 : The O&D market is over 700 daily passengers. They could fill two daily 738s.
77 N62NA : I did MIA-CLE-MIA on Eagle about 3 years ago... was an ERJ135 I believe. I had no idea that this was one of the longest Eagle routes!
78 Ckfred : How long will ORD-MIA see the 763s? It would make sense to keep the extra capacity through the spring break period for schools in Illinois, which goe
79 WA707atMSP : This market has, sadly, shrunk significantly. In the 1970s, UA flew 747s and DC-10s on CLE-MIA (and PIT-MIA). I believe EA flew L-1011s CLE-MIA, too.
80 MAH4546 : That does not mean the local market has necessarily shrunk. Back then widebodies were extensively used domestically.
81 N62NA : And those widebodies frequently flew half empty.
82 OB1504 : Come to think of it, doesn't CO go mainline on CLE-MIA during the winter?
83 MasseyBrown : CO will fly five weekly 735's and 2 weekly RJ's for CLE-MIA this coming winter but three daily 738's for CLE-FLL. It shows you how the MIA market has
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