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What Happened To CO CLE-CDG?  
User currently offlineTrijetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3407 times:
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I also noticed that CO cut CLE-CDG. I was wondering why this cut was made. I thought this flight was fairly profitable. Also, how is CO progressing toward CLE-AMS/FRA?

side question- Why did CO switch CLE-LGW to CLE-LHR?


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User currently offlineSt530 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

Re CLE-CDG, see here: http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2...ontinental_cancels_direct_cle.html

Re LHR, CO has moved all ops from LGW to LHR.


User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Cleveland has supported that seasonal London flight for quite a few years. In general, it seems like CO prefers to keep CLE at the status quo. They did have that huge increase in Continental Express flying to smaller heartland markets, but then they proceeded to cut all of it to bring the hub right back to where it was. I guess that's a lot better than CVG, where folks briefly enjoyed n/s flights to Honolulu, Anchorage, Rome, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, etc. but now have ended up with even less service than they typically had before the massive buildup down there.

As for the switch to LHR, it's simple really - consolidate ops at LHR is better for the airline from a cost/operation standpoint. As St530's article said, LHR is much more enticing as it is closer to London and offers far more connections. So, people will be much more willing to use CLE's London service now that it goes to the preferred airport there.



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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3592 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3105 times:



Quoting TrijetFan1 (Thread starter):
I also noticed that CO cut CLE-CDG. I was wondering why this cut was made. I thought this flight was fairly profitable. Also, how is CO progressing toward CLE-AMS/FRA?

Since CO's Skyteam partnership with AF will end in October, I would not expect the CLE-CDG flight to remain without the AF CDG feed.

I would not expect CO to fly CLE-AMS in the future for the same reason.

CO could start CLE-FRA or MUC in conjunction with their new Star Alliance partner LH. It might work seasonally.

CO seems to get enough CLE-LON O&D traffic to make that work during the summers without additional feed from the EU side, so there is little reason for any changes in that route.


User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3069 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 3):

CO seems to get enough CLE-LON O&D traffic to make that work during the summers without additional feed from the EU side, so there is little reason for any changes in that route.

Plus, from October (or when CO joins Star Alliance), they should be able to enjoy feed from bmi and other Star carriers at LHR.


User currently offlinePhilInBRN From Switzerland, joined Jun 2009, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

It would be great to have some European codeshares out of LHR, CO putting its code on the flights of Star Alliance partners (LH, LX, SK etc.) to make it possible for passengers to use the CLE-LHR and connect onward to European destinations. I'd much prefer flying straight into CLE and then do immigration there than to fly into any major congested hub like EWR before that. This might even give CO the pax needed to justify a year round service.

User currently offlineGreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 568 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2702 times:



Quoting DLPMMM:
CO could start CLE-FRA or MUC in conjunction with their new Star Alliance partner LH. It might work seasonally.

Not sure about MUC (being a smaller hub with less feed), but CLE-FRA should probably work and should be able to support itself year-round.


User currently offlineDaufuskieGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2610 times:

could a 752 make FRA CLE or would they have to use a 762? And is there much FRA (ORD/IAD/EWR) CLE traffic on STAR /CO right now?

it seems like a marginal route, much like CLE CDG was with SkyTeam.


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