Luftfahrer From Germany, joined Mar 2009, 965 posts, RR: 5 Posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 7829 times:
I was just checking the airport activity of BOS when I saw a DL B763 flying BOS-EWR. It's flight 791 which left AMS pretty much on time, according to flightstats.com. Anyone have more info? It seems a little bit odd to divert to an airport so close unless it's a weather diversion, but weather in Newark appears to be fine.
Yes, that's possible as well, totally forgot this, my bad. Especially since a United flight on its way to IAD also diverted to BOS for this reason some time ago.
This was my first thought, too. Did the crew needed to be changed because of a medical problem or were they close to going beyond their maximum duty time, at which I think the latter is the more likely reason?
I don't know if those information can be revealed, no offence.
[Edited 2009-07-26 11:09:44]
Et là tu montes encore plus haut et ça persiste, alors on vole
CokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1088 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7354 times:
I believe they were covering for the AMS-BOS flight. I think this
stop was scheduled. I believe 1/2 the passengers got off in BOS.
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4974 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7287 times:
Quoting CokePopper (Reply 4): I believe they were covering for the AMS-BOS flight. I think this
stop was scheduled. I believe 1/2 the passengers got off in BOS.
That would make sence because Delta only has 2 digit flightnumbers to/from AMS IIRC..
So they combined the JFK and BOS flights? Guess the loads would be 100% in the middle of summer holiday right?
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SK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 975 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7087 times:
Quoting CokePopper (Reply 4): I believe they were covering for the AMS-BOS flight.
no, not correct. NW/DL have 2 dedicated AMS-BOS flights, NW59 and NW31, and both operated as normal, albeit NW59 1 hr late. As I said, the stop in BOS was for crew reasons.
JoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6979 times:
Well EWR has had some bad ground stops today just for example check out DL2021 they sat on the taxi way for a few hours before going back to the gate to sit a few more hours before they could leave.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4553 posts, RR: 17 Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4183 times:
Interesting how many "this diverted there" threads we're seeing these days.
To me, it's just part of the ebb and flow of [ab]normal operations.
Like the DL flight that left JFK last night at like 2am and headed to ATL before heading across the Pond to Italy. Passengers probably weren't too happy, but I'm guessing that the crew was out of time and needed to be changed in ATL. Bad storms at JFK yesterday afternoon.
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4974 posts, RR: 14 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3894 times:
Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 8): Like the DL flight that left JFK last night at like 2am and headed to ATL before heading across the Pond to Italy. Passengers probably weren't too happy, but I'm guessing that the crew was out of time and needed to be changed in ATL. Bad storms at JFK yesterday afternoon.
What? Fly JFK-ATL-Italy?? Why not get a new crew in/to JFK??
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Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4553 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3675 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 9): Why not get a new crew in/to JFK??
Davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3391 times:
Quoting JoseKMLB (Reply 7): Well EWR has had some bad ground stops today just for example check out DL2021 they sat on the taxi way for a few hours before going back to the gate to sit a few more hours before they could leave
That had to thrill pax to no end. How long was the delay? What caused that bad a delay? It can't be winter weather.....
Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 10): And they're supposed to get there how at 2am?
NYC has a great public transport system. It is also a crew base. There were people in the area. Now, would I want to continue at that hour? No, I'd prefer DL put me up in a hotel for th night and NOT put me on a 6 am depature.
JoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
Quoting Davescj (Reply 12): That had to thrill pax to no end. How long was the delay? What caused that bad a delay? It can't be winter weather.....
Oh they were pissed but the flight was skd to arrive in ATL at 1920 something give or take a few mins but it arrives at 0137. The delay was ATC for the dep route they had, they would not let south bound deps head out it seemed. All I know the flight plan they had would not let them leave.
Davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3169 times:
Quoting JoseKMLB (Reply 13): The delay was ATC for the dep route they had, they would not let south bound deps head out it seemed
I have never seen that. Something must have been up in the air (as it were). Did anyone ever learn why no south bound deps? That sounds just odd.
Star_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3142 times:
Quoting Davescj (Reply 14): I have never seen that. Something must have been up in the air (as it were). Did anyone ever learn why no south bound deps? That sounds just odd.
Have you flown much on the east coast? This happens all the time - I've sat on the ground for hours in EWR because I was heading west to ORD, for example, while plenty of A/C that were going north / east / south were taking off next to us. Describing it as a compass direction is a bit generic, what they actually mean is that a particular SID is closed as it passes through an area with a significant amount of weather, so any departures using it are held until it is safe to do so.
It's probably the most frequent explanation I've heard for weather-related delays in the US.
Davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3013 times:
Quoting Star_world (Reply 15): Have you flown much on the east coast? This happens all the time - I've sat on the ground for hours in EWR because I was heading west to ORD, for example, while plenty of A/C that were going north / east / south were taking off next to us.
Most of my flying is in the midwest. The worst delay I ever had was about 20 min (MKE -- CLE). I have come into EWR only once or twice. The farthest east I usually fly is to ATL to change planes.
but -- if people were on the tarmac over 60 min-- it does start to push people again for pax bill of rights.
Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4553 posts, RR: 17 Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2988 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 11): Well, take a taxi? DL has a crewbase in NYC right?
Quoting Davescj (Reply 12): NYC has a great public transport system. It is also a crew base. There were people in the area. Now, would I want to continue at that hour? No, I'd prefer DL put me up in a hotel for th night and NOT put me on a 6 am depature.
I was assuming that, given the horrendous weather last night, they had timed out all the available crews qualified to fly the 764. There's only so many people that you have on reserve. I also assumed that that ATL base (where the weather didn't suck) might have had a fresh crew available. Rather than fly a crew in at 2am, they took the plane to the crew. Maybe I was totally wrong.
This is, after all, the airline that flies a deadhead 777 to London to get bug-sprayed every few weeks.
Star_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2979 times:
Quoting Davescj (Reply 16): but -- if people were on the tarmac over 60 min-- it does start to push people again for pax bill of rights.
This summer I've been stuck on the tarmac for 3+ hrs on at least 4 occasions in EWR, and at least once each in another 3-4 cities also. I've come to accept it (reluctantly) as just another summer travelling in the US
JoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2964 times:
Yeah going threw the NY area sucks this time of year. Just seems like almost every other day on DL term it says expect 90mins delay or more out of EWR.
VC10DC10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 959 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2917 times:
Quoting Wjcandee (Reply 17): This is, after all, the airline that flies a deadhead 777 to London to get bug-sprayed every few weeks.
Er... sorry? Come again? This seems to have escaped my attention heretofore.
Tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2877 times:
Quoting JoseKMLB (Reply 19): Yeah going threw the NY area sucks this time of year. Just seems like almost every other day on DL term it says expect 90mins delay or more out of EWR.
Do they have this posted in a public fashion at terminal B at EWR?
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JoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2853 times:
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14310 posts, RR: 26 Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2846 times:
Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 20): Er... sorry? Come again? This seems to have escaped my attention heretofore.
Due to rules in Australia aircraft must be given a pesticide treatment from time to time. The particular pesticide DL uses is not approved in the US (although it is safe) and the closest place for the planes to get treated is in London.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
Davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2244 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2766 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 23): Due to rules in Australia aircraft must be given a pesticide treatment from time to time. The particular pesticide DL uses is not approved in the US (although it is safe) and the closest place for the planes to get treated is in London.
This is stupid, but why not make the 777 a flight to London? Does spraying take that long? And more obviously, why not switch to another chemical?
And we wonder why airlines nee more money.
Dave
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25 Bobnwa: I seriously doubt that Delta is deadheading a 777 to London every few weeks to get bug-sprayed. Please verify that.
26 CokePopper: Concerning Australia, you can get more info here: DL9904 Delta 77L To LHR (by BA319-131 Jul 24 2009 in Civil Aviation)
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