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Silver One To Be Painted To Canyon Blue Livery  
User currently offlineSwalifebtw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6139 times:

The livery of Silver One, our 25th anniversary specialty aircraft, will change to Canyon Blue when the plane comes in for scheduled maintenance in mid-August. When Silver One was first dedicated in 1996, the fuselage was polished metal. As the process to buff and shine this particular aircraft became too costly, the plane was painted in a silver tone. Within the silver paint, there are flakes that reflect light to give the aircraft a shine.

This aircraft has been painted several times with improved paints, and it still doesn’t hold a shine. Southwest wants this aircraft to be a shining representation of this significant milestone in our history, and the grey appearance is simply not doing it justice.

When the aircraft is first painted, it displays the sparkle and shine of the silver paint flakes. But over time, due to weather and the elements, these flakes no longer reflect like they do when first applied. So in the time of a few short years, the luster fades and the aircraft appears a dull grey, rather than shining silver.

Therefore, Silver One will be painted in the colors of the Spirit Fleet. However, there will be two places on the aircraft that will designate it as our Silver Anniversary Aircraft. The graphic on the nose of the aircraft will remain the same, along with the dedication art on the windscreen as you enter the aircraft. The change to the Canyon Blue livery should take place in mid- to late-August.

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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1882 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Boooo!
At least I got to fly it while it was silver.


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

I just read that on SWALIFE, what a shame to read but I understand the reasons behind it.

I flew this aircraft HOU-STL in May I think of 2007.

Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5727 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5862 times:

STUPID!!!!

That's just about all I have to say about that.

Quoting Swalifebtw (Thread starter):
the fuselage was polished metal. As the process to buff and shine this particular aircraft became too costly, the plane was painted in a silver tone. Within the silver paint, there are flakes that reflect light to give the aircraft a shine.

So what you're telling me is that Southwest isn't innovative enough to economically do what American Airlines has been doing since 1968???
I find that hard to believe.


And so dies another cool plane in an otherwise dull worldwide fleet of a zillion 737s.


User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5727 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5854 times:

I lied- I DO have more to say on the subject.

At least HALF of Southwest's Canyon Blue fleet looks like ABSOLUTE, COMPLETE RUBBISH. The blue looks tatty and worn, the patches are all different colors, and the upper half of the fuselage turns a putrid shade of lavender.
And they're worried that Silver One looses it's luster after a few years!?!?!

Time for ANOTHER reality check at the WN maintenance offices.


User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5825 times:

Quoting Swalifebtw (Thread starter):
Therefore, Silver One will be painted in the colors of the Spirit Fleet. However, there will be two places on the aircraft that will designate it as our Silver Anniversary Aircraft. The graphic on the nose of the aircraft will remain the same, along with the dedication art on the windscreen as you enter the aircraft. The change to the Canyon Blue livery should take place in mid- to late-August.

I'm sorry. I am a frequent flier of WN and I support them whenever I can. This is a move that I, unfortunatly, do not endorse. It truely is a shame that it will be relegated to looking like the rest of the fleet sans a little nose decal.

If anyone ventures out to a WN strong city and looks at the Canyon Blue paint, one would immediatly notice that it too doesn't hold up well after time. Matter of fact, it can look quite dingy in most decent light. I don't buy the whole "not looking good after weather, etc" basis here.

Personally, they should've left it polished IMO. If AA can do it, why can't WN??

Edited for spelling.

[Edited 2009-07-27 05:43:02]


Nashville, Tennessee KBNA
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2297 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5756 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):

One thing I do agree with is that 629 did look great when she was in the polished metal. However AA has a fleet of over 500 airplanes all with the polished metal look, WN on the other hand had only one, which is why I can see it coasted a bit more money to maintain with it WN.



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2297 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5621 times:



Quoting Swalifebtw (Thread starter):
dedication art on the windscreen

What exactly is the windscreen? Is it the blukhead that normally says "N922WN / 137"?



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5567 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
And so dies another cool plane in an otherwise dull worldwide fleet of a zillion 737s.

I agree, sad news. Glad I got her at LAS!


User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5374 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
So what you're telling me is that Southwest isn't innovative enough to economically do what American Airlines has been doing since 1968???

No, I guess we're just a bunch of morons.

Not sure if you've ever seen the plane, but it's "Silver One"... and is currently totally GREY. It has no shine at all to it, and with the red cheat lines on it, it looks unfinished. It's not worth our time to polish the metal every so often on the ONE plane when that is not our LIVERY. It's just a specialty scheme, a scheme that was meant for an event in 1996!!! It's 13 years old and has run its course. Time for it to hit the livery boneyard.



My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5371 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
So what you're telling me is that Southwest isn't innovative enough to economically do what American Airlines has been doing since 1968???

Keeping a whole fleet of polished birds shiny is probably easier than keeping 1 shiny. AA has a process in place to do it economically. For WN, it was a "one off" procedure.



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2297 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5355 times:



Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
red cheat lines on it,

Actually after its re-paint it had the while cheatlines.

I do have to admit, it did look good when it wore its "gun metal" scheme..


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However its the ONLY specialty plane to have matching winglets!  Wink


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User currently offlineJr From United States of America, joined May 1999, 968 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

Hey, maybe in another 12 years we'll get a "Gold one"?  Smile Does "gold paint" retain its lustre longer than grey silver?


I've flown on 9V-SPK.
User currently offlineSwalifebtw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5226 times:



Quoting Jr (Reply 12):
Hey, maybe in another 12 years we'll get a "Gold one"? Smile Does "gold paint" retain its lustre longer than grey silver?

Actually there will be a few staying in the gold.


User currently offlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1003 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5204 times:



Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
Not sure if you've ever seen the plane, but it's "Silver One"... and is currently totally GREY. It has no shine at all to it, and with the red cheat lines on it, it looks unfinished.

True that. A few years ago I happened to see that plane land at SMF. At the time I had never heard of "Silver One", and I thought the plane I saw was just painted with primer, and had not received a complete paint job for some reason.

Of corse as soon as I got home I searched these forums and learned what I had really seen, but like you say to those not "in the know" it definately looks unfinished.


User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2241 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5126 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):
So what you're telling me is that Southwest isn't innovative enough to economically do what American Airlines has been doing since 1968???
I find that hard to believe.

Who just paid a quarterly dividend?



I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4770 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5102 times:
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I was very sad to learn this last night. What am I going to do now?!?!? It's been my screen name for just about everything online since I flew on Siilver One back in 1999.  crying 

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 11):
Actually after its re-paint it had the while cheatlines.

I do have to admit, it did look good when it wore its "gun metal" scheme..

I thought Silver One looked decent in the first paint job. The paint job she received in 2005 looked white from the start. You could see the sparkle only when you were standing close enough to touch the plane. And that white cheatline really made it look like an unfinished primer coat.



ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1624 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4973 times:

We all have to consider where this aircraft flies most of its routes, which is in the Southwest USA. With higher heat and more intense sunlight, trying to keep a one-off colourscheme as perfect as possible without constantly taking it out of service, is a money losing venture.

One only has to look at US Airways, and the reasoning behind the new paint scheme when America West took them over. The intense sunlight on colours in general will cause substancial fading.

My only thought would be to suggest the MICA metallic paint from NWA. I wonder how UV stable that paint is in extreem heat and sunlight?



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User currently offlineFlyinround731 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4964 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 11):
Actually after its re-paint it had the while cheatlines.

It had white cheatlines before and after the initial repaint. Pics from 1996-1999 show white cheatlines with the polished body, the red cheatlines showed up in 1999 when it was painted for the first time. The white cheatlines came back again in 2005 when it was repainted and received the Canyon Blue tail.
See?

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1999-2005

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2005-2009

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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5727 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4931 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 18):
One only has to look at US Airways, and the reasoning behind the new paint scheme when America West took them over. The intense sunlight on colours in general will cause substancial fading.

Hence painting it blue makes no sense at all.

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 15):
Who just paid a quarterly dividend?

I fail to see the correlation between a quarterly financial release and the status of one of SEVERAL ONE-OFF PAINT SCHEMES MAINTAINED BY THE AIRLINE.

Quoting Silentbob (Reply 17):
I guess they couldn't defer the buffing like they do with maintenance.

Ooh, ten points to you!

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Keeping a whole fleet of polished birds shiny is probably easier than keeping 1 shiny. AA has a process in place to do it economically. For WN, it was a "one off" procedure.

Yes, but a 25th anniversary is a "one off" celebration! This whole thing kinda defeats the purpose of having a 25th anniversary airplane entirely.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
No, I guess we're just a bunch of morons.

Lately, I suspect the FAA might agree with you. But I digress.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
Not sure if you've ever seen the plane, but it's "Silver One"... and is currently totally GREY. It has no shine at all to it, and with the red cheat lines on it, it looks unfinished. It's not worth our time to polish the metal every so often on the ONE plane when that is not our LIVERY.

Not sure if YOU'VE ever seen the plane, but the red cheat lines have been gone for... FIVE YEARS. And if it's not worth the time to polish the livery every few A-checks, then why was it done in the first place? Things like this are part of what makes Southwest an EXCITING, DYNAMIC airline, rather than a stodgy, dull carrier like all the rest.


User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4416 times:



Quoting Jr (Reply 12):
Hey, maybe in another 12 years we'll get a "Gold one"?


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User currently offlineKSANcoFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4280 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 19):

Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 18):
One only has to look at US Airways, and the reasoning behind the new paint scheme when America West took them over. The intense sunlight on colours in general will cause substancial fading.

Hence painting it blue makes no sense at all.

Quoting SPREE34 (Reply 15):
Who just paid a quarterly dividend?

I fail to see the correlation between a quarterly financial release and the status of one of SEVERAL ONE-OFF PAINT SCHEMES MAINTAINED BY THE AIRLINE.

Quoting Silentbob (Reply 17):
I guess they couldn't defer the buffing like they do with maintenance.

Ooh, ten points to you!

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 10):
Keeping a whole fleet of polished birds shiny is probably easier than keeping 1 shiny. AA has a process in place to do it economically. For WN, it was a "one off" procedure.

Yes, but a 25th anniversary is a "one off" celebration! This whole thing kinda defeats the purpose of having a 25th anniversary airplane entirely.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
No, I guess we're just a bunch of morons.

Lately, I suspect the FAA might agree with you. But I digress.

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 9):
Not sure if you've ever seen the plane, but it's "Silver One"... and is currently totally GREY. It has no shine at all to it, and with the red cheat lines on it, it looks unfinished. It's not worth our time to polish the metal every so often on the ONE plane when that is not our LIVERY.

Not sure if YOU'VE ever seen the plane, but the red cheat lines have been gone for... FIVE YEARS. And if it's not worth the time to polish the livery every few A-checks, then why was it done in the first place? Things like this are part of what makes Southwest an EXCITING, DYNAMIC airline, rather than a stodgy, dull carrier like all the rest.

I agree with everything said here, its a celebration! Part of what makes WN special, in my opinion, is that they have so much pride for what they do, and I see that every time I fly them. Whether its the pilot, the flight attendants, or gate agents, they all take pride in their work; And to me, that is a very important thing.



Work Hard. Fly [W]Right.
User currently offlineSwatpamike From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4154 times:

Hello All

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 2):
I just read that on SWALIFE, what a shame to read but I understand the reasons behind it.

Gary Kelly is a bean counter so its all about money not people. You will find that out much more in the next few months.

Cheers

Michael


User currently offlineN49WA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4088 times:

Just a random idea...Couldn't Southwest just ink a simple agreement with AA to shine the plane a couple times a year, providing the cost would be less than doing it themselves as a "one off"? I know it's not unusual for one airline to borrow parts from a competitor when a plane at a location needs something, couldn't this work in a similar way? IMHO, the original "Silver One" scheme is the classiest of all SWA's fleet and should be retained.

User currently offlineFlyusairways From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 178 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

What a shame! Can someone with WN aircraft scheduling details post the planned whereabouts of Silver One as the information comes available? I'd love to see it in ORF.

Losing printed timetables and Silver One in a short time is disappointing. I hope Shamu sticks around for a while, as I get a thrill out of seeing that one every time.



All nonstop flights are direct, but not all direct flights are nonstop!
25 Swalifebtw : Last day as "Silver One" will be Monday Aug 24. Will be flown to IND for painting beginning Aug 25.
26 EA CO AS : Is it? I mean, really? REALLY? C'mon, fact is that it's costly and labor-intensive to keep her in the silver scheme. When you're facing rising costs,
27 Jeffry747 : Meanwhile the OTHER half of the fleet looks absolutely stunning! I have always loved the Canyon Blue livery. It is my absolute favorite livery on the
28 Swatpamike : Hello All Working on the ramp I have to say that most of the blue planes don't look all that great. Be glad that you only see them from 100 feet away.
29 Bruce : Geeez...... its only an anniversary scheme, and one that is 13 years old - get over it! Maybe in 2011 for their 40th anniversary they will do a speci
30 Lexy : Thanks Bruce for your two cents of knowledge on the fact. It's my opinion and I have every right to have it. Regardless of what you or your friends m
31 Smcmac32msn : Well... it was either America West's teal (light color to begin with) or US' dark dark blue... If anything it will lighten-up but not look off white
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