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AFA Files For Delta FA Vote  
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4743 posts, RR: 45
Posted (5 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

The AFA filed for election today with the NMB.

http://www.unionvoice.org/delta_nw/n...ription.tcl?newsletter_id=27142623

The release can be read here:

http://www.deltaafa.org/images/PDF/ELECTION_FILING.pdf

Let the speculation, tricks, and showdown begin.


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
124 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6086 times:

Again??

how many times has AFA tried to organize DL?

Is this where my union dues are going!?



FIRST ON THE ATLANTIC.....FIRST ON THE PACIFIC.....FIRST IN LATIN AMERICA...FIRST 'ROUND THE WORLD.....PAN AM!!
User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1175 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6018 times:

I am glad that this will finally get resolved.

User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5951 times:



Quoting CokePopper (Reply 2):
I am glad that this will finally get resolved.

Will it? Or will they just submit again if they lose?



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3589 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5938 times:

I think this will be an interesting election.

I was talking with a NW FA on the way back from NRT 2 weeks ago, and her mindset was quite open to rejecting the AFA. She was quite impressed with how DL treated their employees without a union. I have also met former PA FAs that were adamant unionists.

I think it will be a close vote.

Are bookie operations allowed on A.net? Even odds anyone?


User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1175 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5923 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Will it? Or will they just submit again if they lose?

It will take several years for them to lick their wounds. The present AFA membership
may revolt when they see their dues just disappear into what "was" the Delta campaign.

My guess is that the AFA will receive 47%


User currently offlineCrj200faguy From United States of America, joined May 2007, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5886 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 4):
was talking with a NW FA on the way back from NRT 2 weeks ago, and her mindset was quite open to rejecting the AFA. She was quite impressed with how DL treated their employees without a union. I have also met former PA FAs that were adamant unionists.

I've talked to several NW FAs who feel quite the opposite. I had to deadhead next to one who told me the entire way from DTW to MSP about how if the union was voted out they'd get screwed. Her points were that a lot of the board was NW, so why would they treat the FAs any different than when they did at NW. She also claimed that NW tried to outsource asia flying before and if the union is voted out they will do it again.

Who knows what will really happen, but if the union is voted out. I highly doubt it will be the DL as usual that many people seem to think it will be.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

About time.
(calling IAM now you do it)

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Will it? Or will they just submit again if they lose?

likely......very likely. The AFA can't take no for an answer. They just keep coming back. Maybe one day but not likely.

Quoting CokePopper (Reply 5):
My guess is that the AFA will receive 47%

I will be close but IMO this time around DL will stay with out a union.

But on the up side.....if they win.....first thing they will do is fight for size 28 red dress and push all the F/As to fight for size 42.  duck 



yep.
User currently offlineAirNZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5844 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):
The AFA can't take no for an answer. They just keep coming back. Maybe one day but not likely.

Funny that......sounds exactly like all those 'in the know' who constantly proclaimed all those Airbus would be gone in a flash from DL. Hmmm!


User currently offlineTristarcrazy From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5822 times:



Quoting Crj200faguy (Reply 6):
She also claimed that NW tried to outsource asia flying before and if the union is voted out they will do it again.

That sound crazy or more like something the union would make up to justify there existence. DL/NW would probably loose slots if the tried to outsource. Everyone has there opinions but I am against the unions. They do offer a strong voice, it would just be better if it wasn't such a selfish voice.

I think the merging of the two very different cultures of these great airlines will be the most difficult items on the list...one I think the guys in charge are taking for granted. My thoughts have been that this will cause DL to fail. Hopefully all will get worked out and the 70,000 something employees will live happily ever after



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User currently offlineCokePopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1175 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5764 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):

Quoting CokePopper (Reply 5):
My guess is that the AFA will receive 47%

I will be close but IMO this time around DL will stay with out a union.

ummm...thats what I said.
BTW
AFA needs 50%+1 to win.


User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5627 times:

Thank god AFA is coming in to save the day!

All F/A's need to have a union.......... just like the pilots with their ALPA...

It's the only fair way to conduct business today....


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4743 posts, RR: 45
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5585 times:



Quoting USAFDO (Reply 11):
Thank god AFA is coming in to save the day!

All F/A's need to have a union.......... just like the pilots with their ALPA...

It's the only fair way to conduct business today....

That's debatable, and for the most part, apart from today, DL F/As have faired better than their unionized counterparts.

My issue with Unions as a customer is just that Customer Service.



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5568 times:

In the airline business all F/A's need to have union protection and a written legal contract...just like pilots.

Also, the master minds that run the companies have contracts, so why would F/A's not have one as well.

In this day and age, only a written legal contract is going to make a career safe and fair from the 'whims' of management....


User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

Does anyone know the last vote at DL with the percentage of yes & no was?

User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5535 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 7):
I will be close but IMO this time around DL will stay with out a union.

It is going to be close but AFA will come out victorious. They have about 70% of the fas saying yes, they want a union. Delta has no doubt launched a very viscous anit union campaign and will do everything possible to make sure AFA doesnt step on property. If they choose to give up their collective barganing agreement, it will be intresting to see how the current Delta treats thier new found airline. Pilots have a union, why not flight attendants? NW crew sech. have a union, why not flight attendants?




Long Live Memphis!
User currently offlineOcracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 680 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5529 times:



Quoting USAFDO (Reply 13):
In this day and age, only a written legal contract is going to make a career safe and fair from the 'whims' of management....

 redflag 

How "safe" are the careers of the former IAM rampers at AS at their SEA hub?

One day, AS management decided on a 'whim' to can all those members, and replace them with contract workers.

Their IAM contract did nothing to protect them. Now, some 4 years later, AS is dragging their feet from court case to court case, from arbitrator hearing to arbitrator hearing. And the rampers still don't have their jobs back.

Is that the kind of protection that you are looking for? Could you afford to be out of a job for 4 years?


User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5519 times:



Quoting Ocracoke (Reply 16):

Is that the kind of protection that you are looking for? Could you afford to be out of a job for 4 years?

This is the same thing that Northwest did to a lot of thier IAM members too, however this thread isnt about the IAM.



Long Live Memphis!
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24858 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5511 times:

So what is the AFA platform going to be?

"Let our plus size sisters wear red"



 spin 



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User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Wasn't IAM the union for Flight Attendants at TWA? If so, that union was not worth the monthly dues.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5492 times:

Maybe the F/A unions should go to the same lawyers that make the "iron clad" contracts for managers, senior managers, and CEO's....

The type of contracts that allow people to stay in paid positions regardless or whether or not a company makes any money....

Or get ALPA to reporesent them....


User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 883 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5472 times:

Yeah, the lovely days at MSP, DTW, MEM when the baggage handlers have a show down and decide that it's time to have a system-wide break.... That's not the way things work at Delta. When baggage handlers have needed a hand pilots, gate agents, and even management have helped load bags to get the flight out on time. Delta recieved a lot of crap from other airlines unions crying that everyone should just do their required job and not go beyond the call of duty. I guess NWA passengers are used to the union run arounds since they seem to support the NWA f/a's dragging their baggage over to Delta.

To all of the ATL, CVG, JFK, SLC, MCO, TPA, FLL, BOS, LAX (did I leave any base out?) flight attdendants, I truly thank you for your years of solid customer service and dedicaton to the customers of Delta Air Lines. You have all done very well for yourselves without all of the petty complaining and extortion tactics used by union f/a's.

The 767-200, "Spirit of Delta" sitting in the Delta Heritage Museum shows just how dedicated the flight attendants have been to Delta. I have never seen such a selfless act by any employees done at any other airline. In the early 80's when Delta was seeing the first unprofitable quarters they kept their word to the employees and gave pay increases. When the flight attendants decided to buy Delta a brand new 767 in thanks, it really showed what good hearts the flight attendants had. I beg the flight attendants to keep the spirit of Delta alive and not let the actions of those past flight attendants die in vain.

Delta has been the least unionized legacy carrier for 80 years now, maybe they are doing something right. If being a Delta f/a was such a bad job as so many on a.net say it is, don't you think the f/a's would have done something a long time ago? The AFA has bullied Delta for years and I hope it has shown the DL f/a's just how dirty they do business. Voting in a union would most likely just drive a wedge in between the f/a's and management. I guess for the f/a's at NWA, old habits die hard. Life if what you make of it. You can take the easy way or the hard way. Your choice.

Again, thank you to the hard working Delta flight attendants. You have taken very good care of me over the years and I look forward to seeing you on all of my future flights.


User currently offlineUSAFDO From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5466 times:

DL, please protect yourselves and become a member of your union....just like your pilots!!!

It's the only way to get fair and equitable treatment.....

Whats good for the pilots is good you all of your!!!!

Follow the pilots lead!


User currently offlineNW From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 149 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5435 times:



Quoting C767P (Reply 21):
I truly thank you for your years of solid customer service and dedicaton to the customers of Delta Air Lines.

Check the DOT statistics. NW out performed Delta in all categories and still does today, that includes customer complaints. This was all done while having mostly unionized employees.

I am not saying NW is perfect or better than Delta but I think you're a little off base here.


User currently offlineC767P From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 883 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Quoting NW (Reply 23):
Check the DOT statistics. NW out performed Delta in all categories and still does today, that includes customer complaints. This was all done while having mostly unionized employees.

I am not saying NW is perfect or better than Delta but I think you're a little off base here.

I guess the passengers voting in that poll never spent any quality time in Duluth, MN on their way to LGW .... customer service at its finest.

I realize that NWA has some very good flight attendants just like every airline. But overhearing NWA f/a's complain about having to make Delta's signature cocktails on flights now and then the whole uniform mess really doesn't show me that the NW f/a's are trying to get along with their new coworkers. Like I said above, life is what you make of it.

[Edited 2009-07-27 22:32:23]

25 USAFDO : C767P....no matter what...the 2 sides are now "married"...and stuck with each other.
26 Ikramerica : So you are a union plant, then? Can you repeat this one more time? Or five more time?
27 USAFDO : I probably could be, and will ea. time an opportunity present it's self...if I choose to!
28 Post contains links OOer : Actually, an organizing drive is funded by the CWA defense fund. $1.80 of your union dues go to this fund, its purpose is to increase the membership
29 Post contains links C767P : From this and previous comments that I have read of yours, it seems you have an ax to grind with Delta. Do you personally feel that Delta has mistrea
30 ASFlyer : How does presenting facts to counter your arguments represent an "ax to grind with Delta"? Your response merely represents that you don't have the sa
31 Airtechy : As a customer, I really hope this organizing effort falls flat. In regard to the statistics, compare the airlines in a year that their union decided t
32 C767P : And just like managment unions can also be driven by greed. Let's say DL votes in a F/A union. Ok so now the f/a are going to show DL who's boss and
33 Ouboy79 : Just an observation...but they are including retirement pensions and such. Umm, didn't the bottom three on that list reject them in Chapter 11 for th
34 OOer : Out of the bottom 3..... United F/A's pension was turned over to the PBGC Northwest F/A's still have a pension, it is however frozen Delta F/A's still
35 OOer : I guess you forgot to tell us the part where 80% of Airline crews are unionized...I guess there must be a reason, as you state.
36 OOer : A job action against an employer is only used as a last resort, under the NMB rules the mediation process is slowed and all avenues are addressed to
37 OOer : As another poster said... Presenting operational performance released by the DOT shows that I have an ax to grind with Delta how? Many on this board
38 CokePopper : This is a Delta F/A's decision! Why are there so many AFA (outsiders) on here thinking they can sway anyone? On LAST hurrah?
39 Delta2UAL : I also don't think it's a coincidence that while executive greed (and compensation) has skyrocketed, the average employees' wages have declined or re
40 Alitalia744 : Your facts about mishandled bags have no place in a conversation about FA Unionization. So tell me again, what is your point? There is more to custom
41 OOer : You mean like the flight attendants might actually be able to negotiate back some of their 40% pay cuts and your money might actually end up in their
42 Goaliemn : I have to ask.. if DL is really that bad, why haven't the FAs unionized before? I keep seeing this "you have to be in a union to get good treatment"
43 C767p : I asked the same question in a previous post and I'd like to know the answer myself.
44 DLPMMM : Is it a result or a cause? Geee, let me think....what are the two most heavily unionized private industries in the USA......Airlines and Auto Manufac
45 Mayor : Oh, but you do, don't you? You never seem to come out of the woodwork until this particular subject comes up and then your posts show it quite clearl
46 DLDTW1962 : What ever they do. I hope it does not change the new attitude that is going around the New DL. I love it.
47 Jetboy319 : I don't follow the Union FA vs. Customer Service argument. Alaska and Southwest are both heavily unionized and they have some of the best FAs hands do
48 DeltaL1011man : I agreed. proof? right. Its funny tho. If someone like yourself came to me with a card i would sign it just to get them to go away. big big big AFA f
49 USAFDO : To Goaliemn.... Ask yourself why all the pilots & CEO's have legal contracts!!! It's the way to do business in this day and age.
50 Bobnwa : Why would you be a big AFA fan. You have never belonged to them have you? If yes, what airline was it?
51 DELTA7478 : I just hope that the flight attendants think really hard on these decision, I been with DELTA for nine years now and I love it. I have worked for thre
52 USAFDO : DELTA7478......again...why do you think the pilots & CEO's have legal contracts for their jobs?
53 CokePopper : USAFDO and 00'er, Since you are both not Delta F/A's, why do you care if Delta f/a's vote one way or the other? just curious as to your "stake" in all
54 DELTA7478 : Because there EXECUTIVES, besides Gerald Grinstein did not have a contract. He was an honest man that care about his company and got us out Chapter11.
55 NWAESC : What are we playing for? I predict 54% yes, with 75% of eligible F/A's voting. The NMB has stated that they will only do one "big" (my term) election
56 FFlyerWorld : Because if AFA is not successful with the Delta vote - they stand to lose a huge amount of monthly dues revenue from the former NWA f/a's not to ment
57 NWAESC : Men like Grinstein just don't exist in commercial aviation anymore (sadly). Yep, and so did your current CEO.
58 DLPMMM : That would mean that the AFA would be rejected, correct? (as it requires 50%+1 of all eligible group members to be certified, the 25% not voting coun
59 DELTA7478 : Latter this year the UNION that represents the ticket counter agents are going to try there PROPAGANDA on us, well my vote will be " HELL NO" on union
60 Nwaesc : I should've been more clear; 54-46% taking all votes/non votes into account. ... So what're we playing for?
61 Ikramerica : I agree. On the plane, the DL staff is tops of anyone I've flown. Some match, nobody exceeds. On the ground? The staff is far from a match for airlin
62 Surfdog75 : If the FAs do decide they want a union, why not an in-house union like the SWA pilots?[Edited 2009-07-28 12:52:16]
63 Nwaesc : Well, I'll be voting HELL YES, so I guess we'll cancel each other out... BTW, "that" union also represents the ramp, sim techs, reservations, clerica
64 NWAdeicer : You know I was just reading that memo a few minutes ago. He stated that at RSW they have people there now from 1981 to 2009 seniority. That, in his w
65 Nwaesc : Both? LOL. I read that one as well, but the one I'm specifically referring to came out today...
66 Panamair : The non-AFA NW FAs based in Asia operating the interport flights are also tops...makes flying DLNW feel like flying an Asian airline...
67 USAFDO : Panamair......DL/NW need to eliminate those Int't F/A positions where they employ foreign nationalists F/A's. The is an American company, and employme
68 Panamair : Wait, but the AFA AGREED to have the foreign nationals on those interport flights didn't they? So the NW FAs with a legally binding contract and repr
69 Alitalia744 : Logic doesn't over ride irrationality or emotion. Why are you bothering.
70 NWAESC : Sounds like a great idea to put on the table during JNC talks...
71 DLPMMM : I think it will be closer than that, but I really don't know if the union will be certified or not. The NWA FAs I met were less than entheusiastic wi
72 OOer : Oh really? MCO has rotation 3041 on Open Time for August 1st, the only rotaiton on open time. A rotation with 4 F/a's on it and the "A" position open
73 C767p : Why would you want to get rid of one NWA's valuable assets? Again, this just supports my arguement about the mentality of union members. "Union vs No
74 Pyrex : Clearly you've never flown on United... More important than that, why does NW need a de-icer in Florida?
75 CokePopper : Maybe you are? From your past postings it sounded like you were a disgruntled regional f/a. If you are a DL f/a, a question, Has Delta ever done righ
76 Ikramerica : If unions would stop doing this, I'd support them much more. But watching it in every industry, from airlines to manufacturing to sports, it's disgus
77 Post contains images EA CO AS : How about "HEY KOOL-AID!" instead? Because the new uniform at size 42 would look something like this:
78 Asuflyer05 : I don't understand why you wouldn't want one? If you cannot walk into your supervisor's office and negotiate quality of life issues, wouldn't you want
79 SNCntry32 : At Will Employment. Nuff said.
80 Post contains links OOer : Traditionally, U.S. employers have possessed the right to discharge their employees at will for any reason, be it good or bad. The "at-will" category
81 Squid : Yes and if they can get rid of that damned AFA, than all the Trans-Pacific flights can be staffed by young, pretty, polished, multi-lingual Asian bas
82 Panamair : Please don't turn this into yet another thread about young/pretty FAs vs senior/unattractive FA stereotypes across countries/continents.... My praise
83 NWAESC : That's a bit sensationalistic, and you know it. I see you're still trying to peddle your half-baked theory on why an all-Asian FA compliment is the w
84 EA CO AS : And what about non-officer management? They seem to do just fine without contracts...
85 Goaliemn : I work in the IT industry. I don't have a union or a contract. I'm hired/fired/paid based on my individual talents/abilities. I once walked into my b
86 DeltaGuy767 : I was hired an Investment Banker right out of college for a major firm that has since suffered tremendously with the crisis, and this spring I was lai
87 Mayor : Actually, no. They kept the wages/benefits up to or ahead of other carriers because that was how they treated members of the "family". Keeping the un
88 Nwaesc : Neither do you, apparently. I could very easily just switch the word "union" in the above paragraph with "company," or "management." Another myth per
89 DLPMMM : What??? That made no sense at all. Yes you could, but then it would become a nonsensical paragraph devoid of logic. Not really. Just look at how cont
90 ExFATboy : I don't think it's fair to say "unions = dying industries", the auto industry and the airlines have much more in common than unions: both are heavily
91 Mayor : Until the last decade, the same could have been said about DL, except without unionization.
92 Nwaesc : Sure it did. It was a response to your claim that "you just don't get it." How so? It makes perfect sense; you just have to see it outside the narrow
93 DLPMMM : Ahhh, but the non-union USA auto plants are doing quite well, and have expanded dramatically over the last 20 and 30 years. The non-USW steel mini mi
94 DLPMMM : If they are union, then by definition, they are not management. The union insist on union supervisors so that they can comtrol the company-employee c
95 DeltaL1011man : ask a MCO based F/A? JK JK Just tryin to make this thread a we bit more fun. Wow. just Wow. You are asking to get flamed
96 DeltaL1011man : Only hell yes? Hey NWA can just the ramp be IAM and above wing not or all for ACS goota be IAM? Ah ok. Read everything Bob. If you really need help I
97 Bobnwa : How about just answering the question. Please don't use small words as they might give you grammar problems such as "there" and "their".
98 Surfdog75 : He might but, like it or not, the FA's at Cathay, Korean, JAL, Asiana etc., and the service they provide are a huge selling point for the Asian carri
99 EA CO AS : Seriously? MUST you be so condescending in your posts? Agree or disagree with others, fine - but leave the condescension at home. It seems to be a re
100 NWAESC : The ramp leads and customer service supervisors are both covered under CBA's at NW. They are supervisors of employees. It is the supervisor who leads
101 NWAESC : Who are you referring to? Bob or Delta1011?
102 DeltaL1011man : How about he reads everything not just looking at what I say. I wasn't talking about me I was talking about OOer. If you would READ!!!!! everything b
103 DeltaL1011man : Alright, IMO at least the ramp would be better off in a Union. I believe if you don't alot of DAL-N stations will end up DGS or RHS. good luck.
104 Mayor : Must everything be a conspiracy by Delta?
105 Nwaesc : I think so too.... Of course not, but in this case the shoe (or dress) fits...
106 Mayor : No matter who let it out, it WAS stupid. It would have come out sooner or later, anyway.
107 CokePopper : Kidding right? The AFA is worried about "summer shirts" and Size 28 dress . And your blaming Delta for "Leaking it" to the press? They handed this is
108 Nwaesc : No, I'm serious. All I'm asking for is people to look past the convenient hype, and see things with a critical (as in thinking) eye. I'm not blaming
109 CokePopper : See that, we have common ground. I agree! I guess there is no need to meet with Anderson on a picnic table and have a drink
110 DLPMMM : Yes I am. It works at alot of non-union companies. It is called pay for performance and merit raises. The basic benefits are set, but things like pay
111 Blrsea : I am not very familiar with unions in US. I have some questions: 1. If majority employees vote to form a union ( say FAs in Delta in this case), then
112 ATTart : Do run far and fast from AFA!!!
113 UAL-Fan : I couldn't say it any better. Delta is is cut above the rest. I am in the middle of my Platinum trip right now and will maybe make "Diamond" by year
114 EA CO AS : Delta1011.
115 DLPMMM : To answer your questions as best I can: 1. All employees in the group will be a part of the bargining unit and will be subject to the collective barg
116 Nwaesc : LOL. Okay, that's funny! I wonder how many people that read your post got the reference?
117 Mayor : I didn't........please clue me in.
118 DLPMMM : Obama having a beer with the black professor and the Cambridge cop in order to "heal" and have a "teaching moment".
119 Blrsea : Isnt this unfair to employees who dont want to be part of the union?
120 DLPMMM : It is the way it is. Union leadership is interested in getting the manimum number of covered employees and the maximum amount of dues. Why should the
121 Post contains links Nwaesc : Correct. Or more specifically, a beer at the picnic table on the south lawn of the White House. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...on/2009/07/29/
122 DLDTW1962 : If I could be a F/A with any airline out there. I would want to work for DL. I don't really care about having a union if the company I'm working for t
123 Post contains links OOer : The D.O.T. seems to differ based on information provided by the carriers... http://deltaafa.org/images/Newsletters/DAL-AFANews-Jul09.pdf
124 Sbworcs : " target=_blank>http://deltaafa.org/images/Newslette...9.pdf The only problem I have with that is that the whole thing is obviously biased towards th
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