Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Indian Private Airlines To 'boycott' On 18/08  
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

This is a breaking news update on all TV channels. The Federation of Indian Airlines minus Air India has decided to 'boycott' all domestic operations on August 18. Vijay Mallya of IT was quoted on CNBC-TV18.

EDIT: This is f******** insane, I don't know if blackmail is the term but I sincerely hope that this silly coalition stared by Vijay mallya and Naresh Goyal breaks. And I hope Indigo breaks it.

[Edited 2009-07-31 06:25:21]


A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
24 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

Some news sources
http://www.timesnow.tv/Private-airli...kmail-govt/articleshow/4323663.cms
http://www.moneycontrol.com/mccode/n...?autono=409254&special=mkt_topnews
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNew...0731?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews



A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3237 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

Pretty silly IMO. I don't know what VJM thinks about himself, but he has to play in the current market, where everyone pays high taxes and so on. Sure the GoI should do something about setting a policy which treats aviation as a critical infrastructure, but he's not loosing money only due to this reason...

And anyone know why Aug 18?



Latest Trip Report - GoAir BLR-BOM-BLR
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3760 times:



Quoting Nimish (Reply 2):
And anyone know why Aug 18?

It is expected to be a heavy Tuesday following the I-Day long weekend - many offices have given Monday 17.08 off



A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineTharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3659 times:

I bet they don't go through with it.

If they did, they'd just annoy the customers.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3585 times:

I feel it will not occur.
regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3579 times:

There's no way they are going to go through with this and the Indian government probably knows this too.

User currently offlineTharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3537 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 6):
There's no way they are going to go through with this and the Indian government probably knows this too.

Which makes it useless as a bargaining/publicity chip, I'd say. They should take lessons from Ryanair on how to manipulate the news cycle to their advantage.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3419 times:

Weirdly enough, one complaint is semi-legitimate. If AI is saved with a cash injection, shouldn't we be to? Is what they are arguing. I don't know but I think PP put some of them up to this. Either that or this will scupper the AI rescue!


A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

What they are looking for. They spend lavishly, make ambitious plans and wants govt. to bail them out from the tax-payers money for their losses. Do they share their profits similarly or adopt several villages and develop it when profitable.

[Edited 2009-08-01 03:16:19]

User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3296 times:



Quoting Cricket (Thread starter):
This is a breaking news update on all TV channels. The Federation of Indian Airlines minus Air India has decided to 'boycott' all domestic operations on August 18. Vijay Mallya of IT was quoted on CNBC-TV18.

Rubbing salt to the wound.....

Jet fuel prices rise by 1.6 per cent

http://www.travelbizmonitor.com/jet-...el-prices-rise-by-16-per-cent-7670

Quote:
According to a PTI report, state-run oil firms yesterday increased jet fuel prices marginally by 1.6 per cent due to rising international oil prices. ............ The increase follows a sharp 5.7 per cent cut in jet fuel prices two weeks ago.



User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Government not to bailout private airlines

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/N...e-airlines/articleshow/4845373.cms

Quote:
Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel on Sturday said that the government would not bailout private airlines. Private airlines ganged up and decided to suspend operations on August 18 if the government did not help them cut costs

Patel advised the private carriers to withdraw their strike call on August 18. He stated, "Passengers interest would be safeguarded and DGCA would take action if needed."

Air India will increase the number of flights to reduce inconvenience to passengers, Mr Patel said. It is not known if Paramount Airways will join its private sector peers in the strike.

The minister said that the ATF tax was an issue even before the private carriers started operations. Painting a desperate picture of their situation, industry lobby body Federation of Indian Airlines (FIA) said unless the government helps them by lowering taxes on jet fuel and bringing down airport charges, their survival is in doubt.

But the strike threat by Jet Airways, Kingfisher Airlines, SpiceJet, IndiGo and GoAir, which between them carry about one lakh passengers daily, was interpreted as a pressure tactic by a senior official in the civil aviation ministry.

Interesting twist in the tale, but was expected.


User currently offlineTharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3255 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 8):
Weirdly enough, one complaint is semi-legitimate. If AI is saved with a cash injection, shouldn't we be to?

do they want to be government-owned, too?

I think it's always been clear that not all of these carriers would survive. Simply the nature of competition in a growing market.


User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1106 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3234 times:



Quoting Tharanga (Reply 12):
do they want to be government-owned, too?

I think it's always been clear that not all of these carriers would survive. Simply the nature of competition in a growing market.

I agree with you here. The smartest thing, IMO, would be for some merging to occur. 9W and IT wouldn't be a bad idea. Then you would two major Indian legacies competing against each other which would be far healthier than the current bloodbath that is going on at the moment.


User currently offlineTharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3182 times:



Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 13):
I agree with you here. The smartest thing, IMO, would be for some merging to occur.

I knew it would come to this when Indigo claimed they'd order a billion planes. A sure sign of irrational exuberance and excess capacity.

There will be consolidation. I won't speculate how it will all shake out, though.

And some re-thinking of business plans. What is 9W trying to accomplish? What's the point of having both Lite and Konnect?


User currently offlineLeftWing From Singapore, joined Mar 2006, 284 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3146 times:

Agree with them on a few points....

ATF tax needs to go now
5 yrs block for intl flts needs to go...while Fly Dubai & Air Arabia come in capture the market
Airports need to be revamped ... holding at 10000 for 20 mins everyday no airline can make a profit...
AI should be allowed to die a normal death unplug them....
Indian pilots / engineers are getting jobs in Intl airlines they are stuck due to a 6 mth notice issued by DGCA...this was valid when there was a shortage....now there is a surplus of pilots and engineers...


User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Cracks have begun to appear already - IndiGo not to participate in the boycott:

IndiGo Airways not to go on strike


User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2954 times:



Quoting PNQIAD (Reply 16):
IndiGo Airways not to go on strike

MDLR joins IndiGo and Paramount

MDLR Airlines not to go on strike
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/N...-on-strike/articleshow/4848829.cms

Quote:
Regional player MDLR Airlines on Sunday became the third private carrier, after IndiGo and Paramount, which will not join other airlines in suspending flights on August 18.

MDLR Airlines COO and ED Koustav M Dhar in a writing to the Federation of India Airlines (FIA) said the strike was "no solution" to the problems of the aviation industry.



User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I have a feeling that PP engineered all of this, gets the heat off him for the AI mess... Puts pressure on the government to remove some hurdles such as the ATF tax and also the 5-yr barrier. Nothing will happen, the flight cutbacks are already hurting everyone. Choosing flights are a pain nowadays daily returns on the same route are almost impossible other than metro routes. The airlines do need help, maybe this was a way to get attention. Well...


A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineAviationbuff From India, joined Mar 2008, 1425 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Private Indian airlines call off planned strike

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...lines-call-off-planned-strike.html

Quote:
Over the weekend, however, MDLR Airlines, Paramount Airways, SpiceJet, and Indigo all said that they would continue to have flights on 18 August. State-owned Air India, which is a member of the association, said that it would not participate and added that it would operate additional services on that day if necessary. That left only Jet and Kingfisher, and they too have decided to call off the action.

The drama is over. I wonder how many passengers would have suffered on that day finally its good for the passengers.

During the entire scenario, probably the govt. might have given some assurance to the airlines.


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 2722 times:

Gov't plans to look into grievances!
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.p...=com_content&task=view§ionid=4



A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Knock off the 5 yr restriction.
regds
MEL.



Think of the brighter side!
User currently onlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2556 times:



Quoting Aviationbuff (Reply 9):
They spend lavishly, make ambitious plans and wants govt. to bail them out from the tax-payers money for their losses.

Are you talking about the aviation industry in India or the auto sector in USA? Big grin


User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2968 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Here is the surprising thing - the low-cost airlines - Indigo and SpiceJet withdrew pretty much instantly. I was wondering if they planned to advertise their 'resistance' to strike. I'm also surprised that the airlines haven't started a PR campaign to 'narrate' their ills - through adverts and all.


A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3237 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2415 times:



Quoting Cricket (Reply 23):
I'm also surprised that the airlines haven't started a PR campaign to 'narrate' their ills - through adverts and all.

Cash flow issues?



Latest Trip Report - GoAir BLR-BOM-BLR
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Turkish Airlines To Go On Strike posted Mon Aug 6 2007 21:44:17 by KL911
Pakistan's Private Airlines To Fly To UK posted Sat Jul 23 2005 17:37:25 by Behramjee
Indian Private Carriers To Fly To London posted Mon Jan 31 2005 20:08:32 by Airish
Emergency Landing In LAX On 18-08-04 posted Sun Sep 12 2004 15:26:36 by Az
Swedish Airlines To Land On Frozen Lake posted Thu Aug 21 2003 16:54:09 by Qb001
Are American And United Good Airlines To Fly On? posted Sun Feb 20 2000 07:28:28 by VirginA340
Last (?) Chance To Fly On An Il-18! posted Sat Sep 20 2008 09:40:31 by MEA-707
Airbus Urges Indian Airlines To Delay Jet Deliveri posted Thu Jul 31 2008 10:21:06 by Revelation
Airlines To Sell Ads On Boarding Passes posted Tue Jul 15 2008 08:20:46 by Planefxr
Northwest Shareholders To Vote On Merger 9/25/08 posted Fri Jul 11 2008 15:30:17 by KarlB737