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How Long Will SAS Use The MD80s?  
User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3587 posts, RR: 29
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Ok I know this thread is a bit like "When does NW retire the DC9s", with the answer: Never, they cease to exist before they get the chance for it...

There are rumours about a bad future for SAS, but I guess the three governments would not allow SAS to fail.

So, assuming SAS will survive the next 20 years, when will they retire the MD80s? I guess they will not find another customers, they also flew the DC9-20s until they were ready for the scrapyard...

So, how long can they fly them given noise regulations, and which funny aircraft will replace them, so that the fleet remains inefficient and fragmented?  Wink

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User currently offlineKukkudrill From Malta, joined Dec 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

SAS wants to start replacing its MD-80s from around 2014 according to Flight International. Its dilemma is what type to replace them with, given that both Airbus and Boeing are dragging their feet on a new narrowbody design. SAS is apparently considering the Bombardier CSeries as an alternative. See here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...tial-as-narrowbody-successors.html



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25300 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Thread starter):
So, assuming SAS will survive the next 20 years, when will they retire the MD80s? I guess they will not find another customers, they also flew the DC9-20s until they were ready for the scrapyard...

I believe many SK DC-9-21s went on to subsequent operators after SK retired them. Several were operated for varying periods by Aeropostal in Venezuela, by Valujet, Spirit and Allegiant in the U.S., and one was acquired by Thales Electronics for use as a flying testbed.

[Edited 2009-07-31 13:42:01]

User currently offlinePhatty3374 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3789 times:

Right now there are 2 -81's, 34 -82's, and 6 -87's left in the fleet. The -81's should be gone by mid 2010, 12 of the -82's will be gradually phased out over the remainder of this year and next year (no plans for the other 22), and the -87's will be gone (supposedly) by the end of 2009.

As for replacements, the 73Gs and 738s in their fleet do most of the same legs as the maddogs, so I wouldn't be surprised if they used the remaining -82's alongside their existing 737 fleet for the next few years. (They have 2 73Gs and 2 738s on order).

And, of course, it goes without saying that we will probably see an order for a few Q400's  Wink

Regards.


User currently offlineBY188B From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3722 times:

Flew on LN-RLE ARN-LHR on Thursday, Lovely aircraft and looked very new in the cabin. Couldnt believe its first flight in 1985! 24 years and still looking good.


next flights : BD LHR-TXL J, FR SXF-STN Y, SN BRU-LHR Y, MA LHR-BUD Y, BA BUD-LHR J, BA LCY-SNN-JFK J, BA JFK-LHR J, BA
User currently offlineBasefly From Denmark, joined Apr 2007, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 3692 times:



Quoting TheSonntag (Thread starter):
There are rumours about a bad future for SAS, but I guess the three governments would not allow SAS to fail.

Somehow i fail to see how the governments would go about saving SK beyond what they have already done....

Quoting Kukkudrill (Reply 1):

The article you refer to was made before it has become apparent that SK is in VERY dire straits, it is no longer about the environment but about staying afloat as an airline.

The reason SK is parking the Mad dogs are cost cutting by canceling routes, and then choosing the most expensive bird to park.

In my view we will know the destiny of the MD fleet when we know the destiny of SK, and that will likely be after the board meting in an couple of weeks.



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3386 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3425 times:

After the announced cuts, 24 MDs will be left in the fleet. Don't now their newest schedule for retirement, but this is what they said in March

MD-87
53340 LN-RMU planned out of traffic Mar28-2009
53011 SE-DIU planned out of traffic Jul01-2009
49607 SE-DIC planned out of traffic Aug01-2009
53336 OY-KHU planned out of traffic Aug31-2009
53337 LN-RMP planned out of traffic Sep30-2009
53010 SE-DIP planned out of traffic Oct31-2009

MD-82
49385 LN-ROR planned out of traffic Apr01-2009
49615 LN-ROY planned out of traffic Jul01-2009
53008 LN-ROM planned out of trafffic Aug01-2009
49909 LN-RMC planned out of trafic Jul01-2009
49424 LN-ROU planned out of traffic Dec01-2009
49555 LN-RMD planned out of traffic Dec15-2009
49437 LN-RLR planned out of traffic Feb28-2010
49421 LN-ROS planned out of traffic Apr01-2010

At least 2 of them are now standing at OSL without engines and are used for spare parts


User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

I am sure they are off the books already and there will be airlines buying them!

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 6):
At least 2 of them are now standing at OSL without engines and are used for spare parts

I saw 3 standing around in early July. Sad


User currently offlineLH4116 From Sweden, joined Aug 2007, 1714 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3404 times:



Quoting BY188B (Reply 4):
Flew on LN-RLE ARN-LHR on Thursday, Lovely aircraft and looked very new in the cabin. Couldnt believe its first flight in 1985! 24 years and still looking good.

Yes, I also flew it on MMX-ARN a couple of months ago, and the cabin was almost spotless! By far more nice and clean than their 737's!



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User currently offlineBasefly From Denmark, joined Apr 2007, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

I guess we all should start to savor the flights we have on these birds.... I cant help thinking about it every time i fly them......  cry 


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