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Ramp/Gate Worker Wages (Around The World)  
User currently offlineCush From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8658 times:

I was curious as to what ramp works and gate agents make at various airlines around the world (per hour). I know from my experience that ramp workers make between $8-9/hr (U.S.) and gate agents make anywhere from $9-12 to start. Keep in mind I just want starting wages, not what someone with 10+ years experience makes.

Here is what I can provide to get it started:

CO RAMP: $8.75 (not incl. houston/newark/cleveland)
AA RAMP: $9.00 (not incl. chicago/new york/miami/dallas)
U5 GATE: $10.00 (systemwide)


Thanks in advance to all that can help!


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User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8642 times:

OO Ramp/Gate: 8.50-12.35/hr depending on where you are stationed.

User currently offlineBasilFawlty From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 1327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8592 times:



Quoting OOSLC (Reply 1):
depending on where you are stationed.

Is that normal in the US?  Wow! Staff in SLC and PDX (for example) work for the same airline, do the same tasks, so why should one of those receive more money at the end of the month?

As a former 23 year old senior gate-agent I made about 1700-1900 euro's per month after taxes.



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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3208 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8571 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 2):
so why should one of those receive more money at the end of the month?

Local costs of living.

In the case of SkyWest, it will be a lot more expensive to live in a place like ASE, as compared to somewhere like FAR.


User currently offlineHPAEAA From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8568 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 2):
Is that normal in the US? Staff in SLC and PDX (for example) work for the same airline, do the same tasks, so why should one of those receive more money at the end of the month?

As a former 23 year old senior gate-agent I made about 1700-1900 euro's per month after taxes.

Normally I would agree however some markets in the US have a much higher cost of living, so the purchasing power of your dollars goes alot farther... NY by some estimates has a cost of living double that of Dallas - If airlines ignored this, they wouldn't be able to attract the level of talent they're seeking in some of the most important markets.



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User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8562 times:



Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 2):
Is that normal in the US?

I would say that it isn't, OO just seems to take better care of it's employees and decided that it needed to adjust for cost of living dependent on the city.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13608 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8513 times:
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Quoting Cush (Thread starter):
I was curious as to what ramp works and gate agents make at various airlines around the world (per hour).

AS - (CSA) - $10.72/hr to start. Top of scale = $21.32/hr after 11 years.

Certain hourly differentials are paid based on cost of living at particular stations (Alaska, Arctic, Bay Area).



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User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8495 times:



Quoting Cush (Thread starter):
CO RAMP: $8.75 (not incl. houston/newark/cleveland)

Uh, as of 1/1/09 starting pay is $10.14 system but then there are several different markets where adjustments are made for cost of living.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5055 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8459 times:



Quoting Cush (Thread starter):
CO RAMP: $8.75 (not incl. houston/newark/cleveland)
AA RAMP: $9.00 (not incl. chicago/new york/miami/dallas)
U5 GATE: $10.00 (systemwide)


Thanks in advance to all that can help!

Top out wages would be nice!

F9 was around 10.16hr in higher Cost Of Living Markets. About a buck less an hour in less expensive to live places. Top Out was not bad, around 17-18 an hour after a gazzillion years! LOL! Great company to work for though.



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User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

Yeah, SFO and LAX get the most starting out, then it drops to ski resorts, ASE JAC EGE, then SLC has their own pay scale. Then there's the Cali towns: BUR-CLD-LGB-MRY-SAN-SBA plus SUN HDN ORD and DEN are in that scale.
A ton of stations start at 9. Including Montana and the whole Northwest. Then the bottom are really small stations: EKO, PIH, OTH, CDC, FAR, IPL, IYK, LMT.

It's all dependant on where you live. Oh and I know in SLC we top out at 15/hr after 15 years. It totally sucks.


User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 8390 times:

Jetblue I believe you start at 10.50 and you top at 10yrs making 20 and hour. This is only for BOS, JFK, FLL and LGB and I think OAK but not sure. This is for ramp and customer service which I think sucks because ramp I feel should be making little more considering the conditions we work in. I know that comment will set up a fire storm of complaints but this is how I feel as a ramp agent that works in every weather condition and not inside a building all day and before you customer service people get at me, there are a bunch that I work with that agree with how I feel. So with that said are there carriers where the hourly salary is different between ramp and customer service?


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User currently offlineStratosphere From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 1653 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 8366 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 10):
I know that comment will set up a fire storm of complaints but this is how I feel as a ramp agent that works in every weather condition and not inside a building all day and before you customer service people get at me, there are a bunch that I work with that agree with how I feel

It's a trade off really..You work outside and the work is very physical but the agents work inside and when the weather is bad they often are rerouting pax who missed connections. I worked outside as a line mechanic and I know I wouldn't want to change places with an agent when I used to see angry pax screaming at them.. At NW the agents and ramp made pretty close to the same money. However, it took the agents twice as long to reach top pay than the ramp. 10 yrs vs 5 yrs.



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User currently offlineNWAdeicer From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8299 times:

My top out at NW is 18.33 hr. Back when I started if you were full time you topped out in 5 years, 10 years if you were part time. I cannot remember exactly but prior to bankruptcy we topped out at 20 something an hour. Now if memory serves me correct every one tops out in 10 years.I believe Leads (chiefs) top out at 1.25 an hour more. Forgot to add that this is for ramp workers.

[Edited 2009-07-31 19:33:56]


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User currently offlineCrosswinds21 From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 698 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8285 times:



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 6):
AS - (CSA) - $10.72/hr to start. Top of scale = $21.32/hr after 11 years.

Certain hourly differentials are paid based on cost of living at particular stations (Alaska, Arctic, Bay Area).

Looking at the AS career website, they have some openings for ramp agents in Arctic stations. Starting pay is advertised as $9.86 per hour plus $5.50 "Alaska differential" for a total of $15.36 per hour. That doesn't seem too bad but then again, for a place like Nome, that's not exactly living rich. Having been there, you go to the store and the prices are something like $1 per egg or $10 for a quart of orange juice!  boggled 


User currently offlineFlyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8263 times:



Quoting Contrails15 (Reply 10):
Jetblue I believe you start at 10.50 and you top at 10yrs making 20 and hour. This is only for BOS, JFK, FLL and LGB and I think OAK but not sure.

I went for a job interview with them at IAD and starting was 11.00 but dont know what the top out is.

UA is 9.75 with a 10 year top out at 21.20 or 22.20 if your a lead.
WN is 8.75 with a 10 year top out at 26.00 or 27.25 if your a lead.
US is 9.00 with a 10 year top out at 17.00 or 18.00 if your a lead.

UA I know is right for sure but the other may have changed.



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8230 times:



Quoting NWAdeicer (Reply 12):
My top out at NW is 18.33 hr. Back when I started if you were full time you topped out in 5 years, 10 years if you were part time. I cannot remember exactly but prior to bankruptcy we topped out at 20 something an hour.

$20.20, not counting Line pay/longevity/and shift differential (RIP).

Quote:
Now if memory serves me correct every one tops out in 10 years.

Only those hired after August '06. Everyone else is still on the 5 year scale.

Quote:
I believe Leads (chiefs) top out at 1.25 an hour more. Forgot to add that this is for ramp workers.

Correct.



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User currently offlineSwa4life From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8207 times:

Southwest ramp agents start at $10.30 and top out at $26.00 in 11 steps system wide.

User currently offlineJoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8158 times:

Here in MLB you star at $8.10 an hr and top out at $8.10 an hr unless the city changes and gives us a raise.

User currently offlineG4LASRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 8151 times:

G4 - $9.00 / hr to start (at LAS) - part-time only (but can pick up extra shifts after 30 days) then eligible for full-time and a bump to $10.00 / hr after 90 days. Annual reviews after that - increments up to $1.00 / hr - don't remember what the top out was. $1.00 / hr additional for leads.

G4 travel privileges for part-time - full company benefits and pass privileges for full-time station employees.



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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8092 times:

When I started at NW in 2007, we started at $9/hr for both counter and ramp positions. I believe the starting wage is now $9.09/hr.


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User currently offlineWn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1038 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8067 times:



Quoting Flyiguy (Reply 14):
US is 9.00 with a 10 year top out at 17.00 or 18.00 if your a lead.

$9.29 starting, top out currently at $19.38 after 12 years. Lead premium is an extra $1.01/hr.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9397 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7995 times:

These are poverty wages. I worked at JFK in the mid 70s, I was in management, so union wages did not apply. That was an airfreight forwarder, office and warehouse staff was unionized, Teamsters Local 295. The export agents made around 350$$ a week, a truck driver who just transferred cargo from our terminal to the airlines terminal across Rockaway Blvd made around 25 K per year. This was over 30 years ago.

When I look at bthese wages, about 40K p.a. seems to be the most achievable. How can one make a living on this? VCompared to European wages, back then, the ROE to the DM was 1:2. so the 25K translated into 50.000 DM or approximately 26.000 €.,

US$ 40 K today is approximately € 28 K.

I put the question already - how can one make a living based on this and the other question is, how do airlines still manage to lose money when the employment vcosts actually went down?



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13608 posts, RR: 61
Reply 22, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7866 times:
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Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):
how do airlines still manage to lose money when the employment vcosts actually went down?

Because ticket prices have gone down even further, in real dollars.



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User currently offlineVatveng From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7819 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 21):
US$ 40 K today is approximately € 28 K.

I put the question already - how can one make a living based on this

This is how Wal-Mart became the biggest retail company in the world. And why so many people fly LCCs and flock to $39 fares to Florida. Because a very large chunk of the population works for wages much lower than that. Even with the increase in minimum wage in the US to $7.25, if you work 40 hours/week, that comes to just over $15K before taxes. [7.25*40*52=15080] So if you ever wondered why customer service is in the toilet pretty much across the board, look no further than how much the person making your sandwich is getting paid.


*sources:
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/18/...lobal-09_The-Global-2000_Rank.html
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/flsa/



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9397 posts, RR: 29
Reply 24, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7786 times:



Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 22):
Because ticket prices have gone down even further, in real dollars.

Pan Am had 99$ coast to coast in the 70s already. Full fare ticket prices, which are still paid by many on same or next day bookings have gone up considerably.





Quoting Vatveng (Reply 23):
This is how Wal-Mart became the biggest retail company in the world. And why so many people fly LCCs

I know that, I can give you an even better explanation. Personal skills are not that much in demand since computerization took over. Back in the 70s, before that and even up until the late 90s, you had not only to know what you are doing but also why you were doing it.

Now, people are guided through a computer mask on the screen which basically a trained monkey could do as well. Check in staff does not need to know three letter codes any longer, the system knows that. There are many more reasons why poverty wages are paid these days, especially in the US.

What freally scared me when i was reading that the woman pilot involved in the BUF crash made 15K the year before That is about 2 or 3 month pay of a LH first officer after he graduated from flight training school. How can an airline be operated safely when key people are not properly paid and have to cu corners and sleep like homeless instead of in a Hotel bed ?

BTW - Walmart became the worlds largest retailer by selling the cheapest crap they can buy in the far east for huge margins and keeping their costs as low as possible. They completely failed with that business plan in Germany.





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26 Cush : I heard rumour that USA 3000 starts workers at around $2.00/hr down in Cancun. Any confirmation of this?
27 Fleet Service : Last summer when AA was hiring here in NYC for P/T @ LGA the starting rate was $10.37 per hour, with a top of scale of $21.16 after ten years.The comp
28 Yvphx : YV at the PHX hub is starting at $7.50 an hour. I believe we are the worst pay out of all the airliners and regional. You get a $0.25 raise after 6 mo
29 Contrails15 : Its not easy but most are just glad they have a job. The way the job market is right now I thank my lucky stars I have a ramp job. I'm making okay mo
30 CanadianNorth : Round here most ramp/check-in/etc type jobs start around $12-13/hour, and then top out in the 20s... CanadianNorth
31 Simpilot459 : QX ground in SEA starts at $10.08/hr. Not sure what the top is, but I want to say somewhere around $16. Extra shifts and second jobs. Flight benefits
32 BalZ18 : I'm just starting as a ramper for American Eagle at CMH making $9.19hr so looking at some of the others I'm feelin even better!
33 Phelpsie87 : Thanks for including FAR buddy As an example though, when I transferred from EGE to FAR, my pay went from $11.50/hr as a starting cross utilized agen
34 DiegoDangers : At EWR, the largest int'l contractor is only paying their employees 8.25 an hr. Jersey is very expensive to live in, so I don't know how these guys do
35 Malaysia : This thread went a bit into too many directions, it would have been nice to just simply post what starting wages as a ramp agent were. Thai Airways Ra
36 FlyDeltaJets : For DL Ramp and passenger service agents start at 9.90/hr with about a 3% increase yearly and maxes out in the 10th year at $19.35/hr. Ramp ALA's (sim
37 Smi0006 : Working for a ground handler in Melbourne as gate-staff first year; Base rate of pay is $AUD18.75 ($US15.64) an hour, plus shift penalties and allowan
38 Cush : Thanks all for the info so far! I am anxious to hear about the wages in places like eastern europe, africa, and southeast asia. Thanks!
39 Malaysia : Well I already listed one example from SE Asia, TG ramp at 250-300 USD per month. PG customer service is at 550-650 USD per month Keep in mind a Univ
40 Gonnagetbumpy : I started as a Ready Reserve for Delta and make $10.82/hr. And the computer systems aren't even close to being easy. I don't know how much more compli
41 9252fly : Must be still considered a glamorous job in Thailand. By their standards,one wonders if it's a good paying job?
42 AlexEU : In Belgrade, Serbia it´s not more then 300$ monthly for gate agents.They work about 10 hours daily and many of them are young people who have a unive
43 Sunshine79 : In the UK, Servisiar at NCL pay just over the minimum wage, £5.80p/h for PSA's, and the contracts are only 30 hours per week.
44 Contrails15 : Bottom line, being a ramp agent is a horrible paying job but its a job.
45 Jolau1701 : Wow, I make more money at OO now than I would if I defected to another airline somewhere down the road......
46 Acey559 : OH starts at $8.42 an hour. Not great, but the job is fun and the benefits are worth it.
47 Malaysia : And you dont even get flight benefits like in the US, its more of limited to 1 ticket a year for family and some discounts on other airlines. Well ye
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