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B 777-300LR VS A 340-600. Which One Is Bigger?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9698 times:

I myself think that both A 340-600 and B 777-300LR look great. However, does anyone know which one is bigger? Also which one has a longer range?

I think the B 777-300LR is bigger. Right? Slightly bigger I mean. Can anyone confirm this?

 Smile

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User currently offlinePacific From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1073 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9618 times:

Figures available at www.boeing.com and www.airbus.com. This <> doesn't work for some reason.

Pacific


User currently offlineBrenjoro_QF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9598 times:

you have to put http:// in as well

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9593 times:

The A346 is about 1 meter longer than the B773.

Rangewise, the B772LR beats the A345 by some hundred nM (right?)

Regards
Gerardo



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9579 times:

777-300LR

Span - 64.8m
Length - 73.9m
Height - 18.6m
Range - 13,330km
Speed - Mach 0.84 (Cruise)
MTOW - 341,105kg

A340-600

Span - 63.45m
Length - 75.3m
Height - 17.3m
Range - 13,900
Speed - Mach 0.86 (Max)
MTOW - 365,000kg

As you can see, the A340-600 is longer, with a higher Max Take-Off Weight, slightly longer range, simmilar speed, and slightly smaller span and height. (Sources - Airbus & Boeing websites)



"So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth." - Bahá'u'lláh
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9570 times:

The 777-300ER is about 1.5 meters shorter, but is 0.5 meters wider. The Airbus carries about 20 more people, but expect the seats to be a bit narrower.

The range of the 777-300ER is given by Boeing to be 13,330 km, or 8,200 miles - I assume that's with a full load, as Boeing does not give any distinction. The A340-600 gives a range of about 6,500 miles with a full load, 8,600 miles with a full passenger load but no cargo, and 10,100 miles with no payload.

Charles


User currently offlineTim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 705 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9547 times:

The A340-600 is the longer than any Boeing aircraft as well as the Airbus range.

Tim


User currently offlineSia772er From Singapore, joined Aug 2000, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9547 times:

Why would the seats in A340 be narrower? i thought although B777 is wider, it has more seats in a row 3-3-3/2-5-2 vs 2-4-2.
regards,
sia772er


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9526 times:

It seems that they are about the same in terms of size. How about the B 777-200LR? I suppose it has the longest range of all right?

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9506 times:

sia772er,

If the the A340 is only a meter or so longer, but narrower, and carries 20 or so more passengers, something has to give. Either the airbus must have narrower seats for a 9-across config, or they did their estimates spacing their rows closer together - i.e. less leg room.

Charles


User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9500 times:

Cfalk: Exactly. Airbus certainly can't squeeze 20 or so more passengers into 1 metre, I think AI most likely has to compromise seat width.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9497 times:

So which one is bigger overall?

User currently offlineTim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 705 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9494 times:

bigger in what area?

The Airbus is longer I know that much.

Tim


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9491 times:

a) Remember the 773´s theoretical max number of pax is 550 - as much as a 742´s. Unfortunately, I´ve never heard this number for the 346, but it will be certainly LESS, due to the narrower hull (3-3-3 as opposed to 3-4-3 [or 2-4-2 vs. 2-5-2/3-3-3 in a more humane environment]).

b) There are two armrests between seats E and F
(IAICI IDIEIIFIGI IHIKI) so, unlike today, every pax has one armrest completely to himself.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineSia772er From Singapore, joined Aug 2000, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9484 times:

The pax number in B777 may be less because of the seating arrangement.
B777:
three class config.:
first class: 30 passengers, 60-inch pitch
business class: 84 passengers, 38-inch pitch
economy class, 254 passengers, 32-inch pitch
Two class: 479

A340: (2-4-2 in economy)
Three class:
12F at 62in +54B at 40in + 314Y at 32in pitch
Two class:
419

I guess B777 is still bigger then...
sia772er


User currently offlineAmpropilot2b From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9469 times:

As far as speed goes...the one from Airbus says M.86 max, while Boeing just says M.84 Cruise. So what is the cruise of the A346 and the Max of the 777? I seem to recall that the cruise of the A346 was a significantly slower than the 777. Does anyone know if this is true?

ampropilot2b@erau


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9461 times:

According to Boeing's web site, they claim the following:

One 777 advantage that pleases passengers and airline accountants alike is its speed. Traveling at a cruise speed of 0.84 Mach, like the current 777s, the longer-range derivatives will cut approximately 30 minutes off the flying time on 16- to 18-hour flights as compared to the A340, which travels at a speed of about 0.82 Mach.

In addition to cutting flying time, the increased speed of the 777 often gives it preference in obtaining earlier approval for climb to higher altitudes, resulting in a noticeable economic advantage for airlines.

Going head-to-head with the Airbus A340-500/-600s, the Boeing 777 longer-range derivatives demonstrate seat-mile costs that are 14 to 18 percent better. Fuel burn is considerably lower for the twin-engine 777-200 and -300 longer-range derivatives, 21 to 22 percent lower than the A340-500/-600s.


Of course Airbus will advertise their Max speed rather than cruise speed. I don't know what a 777 has been clocked at, but 747s have been known to cruise well above 0.90 Mach, although they usually dial it back to 0.84 or so for fuel economy and airway spacing reasons.

Charles


User currently offlinePtica2000 From Slovenia, joined Nov 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9456 times:

Don't belive what is written on a Boeing homepage. Do you think thay are going to confest that Airbuse's product is better. LOL As much as I know, A346 also travels at M0.84.




User currently offlineGE From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 320 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (13 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9440 times:

Yeah, I think so too. After so much about the A340's low speed has been critisized, Airbus must have done something. By the look of the A346's photos, its engines look pretty huge, so I highly doubt they're underpowered.
Boeing really has to do something about it...and FAST!!!


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