LH121GLA From Germany, joined May 2004, 447 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5801 times:
Quoting Damian (Reply 2): Maybe they've finally managed to negotiate a deal with BAA at ABZ
Highly unlikely IMO. Anything they've had from ABZ before they've cut so I think your idea would be a non-starter.
Apparently they have the same deal on the table for GLA as BAA gave them for EDI - would we see them up sticks from PIK and move to GLA?
I'd like to think that BAA GLA would be chomping at the bit to get any new business - I mean, realistically - what have they delivered since EK back in 2004? Not a lot!
Sam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 939 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5463 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1): FR has in recent times significantly increased its presence at MAN and LGW. Perhaps these
are potential bases. Or LBA or NCL.
Flywrite From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 173 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5283 times:
Is MME an option? They're currently looking for someone to replace FlyGlobespan's loss. Plenty of local passengers desperate for routes to the sun and cheap city breaks, as well as a link to London following the loss of bmi.
FR already operate to GRO and ALC from here (and recently cut the DUB route)
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18835 posts, RR: 54 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5271 times:
The articles states: "Mr O’Leary said that Ryanair currently flies to two of the three airports being considered." So, presumably, and realistically, two of those three must be LGW, MAN, LBA, NCL or ABZ. I wonder which the third one that it doesn't yet serve is.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
It's possible, they could advertise it as the far South West in general and specifically Plymouth, but the road and rail links are so crap between the two that they'd be better off serving EXT - which again could be a possibility. Many people travel up to BRS for FR flights as it is, but this would then reduce passenger numbers at BRS itself. Mind you, it would certainly stick the wind up FlyBe!
Perhaps a return to CWL could be on the cards too, maybe they are smelling blood regarding Baby?
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 4990 posts, RR: 38 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5061 times:
Quoting Damian (Reply 2): Maybe they've finally managed to negotiate a deal with BAA at ABZ.
its possible - I believe ryanair have hinted in the past they would start more routes from ABZ if the price was right. The investigation into BAA's monopoly asked for greater monitoring of BAAs performance at ABZ as their prices were far too high....
Quoting LH121GLA (Reply 3): Apparently they have the same deal on the table for GLA as BAA gave them for EDI - would we see them up sticks from PIK and move to GLA?
doubt it will be GLA - they just announced new routes from PIK last week, so no upping sticks anytime soon.
Cainanuk From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2002, 548 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4790 times:
I hope with all hope that it isn't MAN.
Ryanair's predatory consumer practices would KILL the likes of WW, U2, LS and would cause serious harm to the likes of LH, LX, EI, BE and BD. They come in all gang busters and price all the other LoCo's out of the market leaving them with monopolies on routes and when the airport wants to charge them normal fees once the initial concessionary fees run out, MoL picks up his toys and f**ks off elsewhere leaving us decimated.
Spud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 291 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 4730 times:
Quoting Cainanuk (Reply 13): I hope with all hope that it isn't MAN
same here... MAN doesn't need FR base besides, has enough loco activity to keep proces competitive and with LPL base just down the M62 so why would FR consider MAN
FR would be better devloping a new base at MME perhaps?
What about DSA? Too close to EMA base? Can't see them going for LBA, surely there isn't the room with all the LS metal
AAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3799 times:
I would have thought MME... NCL... or LBA.
I just don't think MAN or LGW fit's their profile however LS and U2 operate out of MAN/LGW and have done so successfully.
Maybe with an increase in fares opening a base at LGW could be profitable especially with the faster access into London, rather than what is offered bby STN and LTN. U2 have made a profitable operatation at LGW... could FR be ready to challenge them?
KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3696 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1): Let's first look at their existing UK bases:
BHD
PIK
EDI
LPL
EMA
BHX
STN
LTN
BOH
BRS
Why another UK base? Is there still a city not connected to an FR base with less then 2 hours driving? Why not BRQ? It's central, cheap, and less then 2 hours from Prague, Vienna and Bratislava, 3 EU capitals.
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
Ammunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1064 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3570 times:
Im gonna hazard a guess and say MAN could be a strong contender, they have 5 additional daily slots approved which could be a couple of aircraft, at the same time however, it could just be destination points from other bases. (or nothing more than approved slots)
FR have significant leverage in the current climate of dwindling passenger numbers and capacity reduction. I would love to see what sort of deal they will negotiate from the airports they choose...
Saint Augustine- 'The world is a book and those who do not travel, read only 1 page'
Joost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3128 posts, RR: 4 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3321 times:
Quoting AAMDanny (Reply 15): I just don't think MAN or LGW fit's their profile
Airports and LCCs have all broadened their profile in recent years. A couple of years ago, LCCs (most notably FR) showed little interest in primary airports. Also, these airports showed little interest in securing deals with FR, U2 or W6. In the last 3 years, FR have opened bases at airports including MAD, ALC, EDI and BLQ; indicating that the airports as well as the airlines see business opportunities together.
easyJet has been focusing on primary airports (with higher costs, but also higher revenues) for a long time already and considers LGW to be a strong money-maker, despite costs that are higher than say EMA or LPL.
Quoting AAMDanny (Reply 15): could FR be ready to challenge them?
FR could challenge U2 a bit at LGW, but they won't become a major competitor, simply because there aren't so many slots available. If FR would indeed start a base at LGW, I expect them to open some typical FR routes not served yet by U2, like AHO, REU, TSF, BGY, PIK, EGC, CCF, NYO. Some of these routes might also be start from other bases.
Davehammer From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 472 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3196 times:
I'd be very surprised if they were looking at LGW. Even with people having moved out there isn't much room for movement in South Terminal which is where I'm guessing FR would continue to be based. Then again LGW has turned out to be a big success for U2 and EI is increasing its presence there. I wouldn't rule anything out with FR, particularly with BA moving a number of routes up to LHR .
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