Airmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 390 posts, RR: 1 Posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1558 times:
Why are SV not serving Brunei an oil rich country and the Maldives a superb tropical resort? both are tiny Muslim states with 100 percent Muslim populations and there obviously must be demand on the Male-Jeddah and Bandar Seri Begawan-Jeddah routes and yet SV are absent in these countries, I know Royal Brunei fly to Jeddah with the 767 but is that enough? what about Air Maldives do they fly to Saudi Arabia, do SV have plans to fly there in the future
Gardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
Air Maldives no longer fly anymore, they had to shut downt their long haul A310 routes(Bangkok, Dubai, Europe) and all that is left i think is a tiny aircraft flying within the Maldives, if any at all.
I cant see their being much demand for Saudi Arabia-Maldives flights. Unlike the neighbouring coutnries in South Asia, there is a demand for labout to the Middle east, but Maldives is so small thay they in fact import their labour from these countries and dont really send labourers to the Middle East from the Maldives.
And I suppose charters fromEurope and Emirates/SriLankan connections provide enough capacity on the Europe-Maldives sector.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
I can only guess that it is a matter of economics - is there adequate demand for such service? I have been to Brueni (it is fascinating, but that is not for this forum) and although the population is, in general, wealthy, it is small; not that many people reside in Brunei. As for Maldives, is it a favored touristical destination for the Saudi Arabian population? There are many fabulous resorts in the Gulf States, so maybe going to the Maldives is not of interest to Saudi Arabian people. The fact that populations of 2 nations share relgious beliefs does not guarantee direct air service between the nations; maybe this is because we can all travel to just about anywhere in the world, regardless of relgious belief, and that is a good thing!
Airmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1514 times:
that is tragic news, i was actually planning a new scheme for Air Maldives, so is any country interested in setting up an airline there? perhaps the Saudis with their Billions to spare? as for traffic between Saudi Arabia and the Maldives im sure it exists for Umra, if not Labour as 100 percent of Maldives population is Muslim and they must be going for pilgrimage, therefore a direct service makes sense with A300 or 777 or the 747 routed via Bombay, Trivandrum or Karachi if not nonstop
Kevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1478 times:
Dutchjet is right. When Saudis go on holidays they go mostly to the following countries:
Neighbouring Gulf countries
Most of you must know that in Saudi Arabia it is usual for a family to have 5-10 children. So when planning their next holiday, amusement facilities for children are taken into consideration. That's why USA and Singapore top the list.
Lebanon is still one of the favourites since it combines Western freedom with Arabic Culture.
Dazeflight From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 580 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
I don't think Air Maldives needed a new livery, their new CI on their A310s was definitely one of the best I've ever seen. I believe they stopped flying in March 2000. Currently, Island Air with one ex Air Maldives Dash8 (or DO228, I'm not 100% sure) and Gan-based Ocean Air with a Convair 580 (beautiful flower livery) serve the domestic routes, apart from Hummingbird and Maldivian Air Taxi with their water planes.
GOOFY From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1443 times:
Well I really don't know about Burnei, but for Maldives, following might account for it.
Maldives, as we all know, is a group of small (very small) islands with one semi major city which is there capital Male. Most of the Maldivean work for resort companies there or fish. Some might be doing well off jobs but mostly are involved in these two industries. They, in no sense, have a strong or prosperous economy and are only dependent on small resort, fish industry with few manufacturing plants. Due to the remotness of the island, trade basically exists between Sri Lanka and Male. The comments previously posted for this forum says that it will be sensible if SV flies from Colombo to Male. Well, they could take a short, much cheaper route by boats while enjoy the scenery. Besides, Air Lanka flies there and Air Maldives flies to Colombo, so how much market do you think does SV has for their Male route?
For Brunei, I say that SV probably code shares with Some South East carrier like SIA, Garuda and Air Malaysia fly there providing not sufficient market for Brunies.
Bove From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (14 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1429 times:
Wasn't aware that the 747's were back plying the Subcontinent routes. My last RUH-DEL trip was on the "77H" (domestic config) during Hajj but I hadn't put two and two together to realize it was just a temporary move while the 74's were being reallocated elsewhere.
Even the 77H has only got around 250 Y/C seats so I really wondered why they were being used on such high density routes.
I see the 77H is replacing the 741 on some routes but SV have really got it down to a science with the old clunkers: 369 "male" seats plus the upfront Y/C "family" cabin just ahead of the 2L door and opposite the full-length galley. A small F/C for the poachers and slaveowners plus the mysterious upper deck gaudy lounge for the occassional VIP. Don't know how they'll ever find a replacement for those aircraft which are by and large old and rickety!
Bove From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (14 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
444 Y/C seats! Amazing...a true slaveship in every sense of the word then.
Personally, my idea of hell would have to be something like operating those decrepit 741's over the Sahara on the way to Kano with 450+ tempestuous Nigerians aboard.
Still its heartbreaking to watch these poor girls just arrived from Jakarta or the bearded ones in from Peshawar having to face God knows what in the Magic Kingdom. Really makes you stop and think.
Is it true about the old 732's and L10's being used as monuments on Jeddah roundabouts? The DC3 roundabout in North Jed. is a must see but really lacklustre compared to what else Jeddah has to offer. Beautiful city IMHO. RUH is quite another story however.