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DCA Closed - DL 757 Engine Catches Fire On Takeoff  
User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23428 times:

All planes ordered to stop engines, airport closed. Fire crews are on the scene. It appears that there are people on the Tarmac, but I can't tell ifthey are passengers or just fire crew.


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User currently offlineD l x From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23372 times:

Update: Fire appears to have reignighted. Fire crews are foaming the engine. Passengers are still on the plane.


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User currently offlineMHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23260 times:

Well that can't be good. I hope the PAX and crew are ok!

User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7140 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23220 times:

Well nothing from the media yet. No surprise there.


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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23209 times:

ATCSCC ADVZY 003 DCA/ZDC 08/03/2009 CDM GROUND STOP
MESSAGE: CTL ELEMENT: DCA
ELEMENT TYPE: APT
ADL TIME: 0018Z
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 03/0008Z - 03/0115Z
DEP FACILITIES INCLUDED: (1stTier) ZTL ZID ZJX ZBW ZOB ZDC ZNY
PREVIOUS TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 0 / 0 / 0
NEW TOTAL, MAXIMUM, AVERAGE DELAYS: 441 / 60 / 34
PROBABILITY OF EXTENSION: LOW
IMPACTING CONDITION: OTHER / EMERGENCY
COMMENTS: USERS CAN EXPECT HOLDING OF UP TO 30 MINS UNTIL BACKLOG IS
CLEAR.


User currently offlineD l x From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23144 times:



Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 3):
Well nothing from the media yet. No surprise there.


They just got here about a minute ago.

Fire appears out. Other aircraft have restarted their engines, but are not moving.

What a day to leave the camera at home.



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User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23142 times:

Best wishes to the crew and pax on this one. That can be a tight airport to maneuver in.


...Now they face an even greater danger...Tyrannousaurs in F-14's!!
User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2309 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 23143 times:

Does anyone know what flight number this was?


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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12981 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 23087 times:
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Dang... DL has mostly Pratt's on the 757's (if not exclusively).

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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 23085 times:

Ouch, hope everything is ok over there...What runway were they taking off on?

User currently offlineWNCrew From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1457 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 23026 times:

Did they evacuate or just tow off runway?


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User currently offlineD l x From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22973 times:

Airport reopened. 757 being towed back to the gate. No evacuation.


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User currently offlineSpartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22966 times:

If I am looking correctly, the only 757 departure close to this time is 1234, scheduled into JFK.


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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22970 times:

There is an aircraft on approach on the River Visual...Will be landing on Runway 19 in 90 seconds, so I guess the runway is back open already...

[Edited 2009-08-02 17:39:38]

User currently offlineSkyGirl From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 451 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22970 times:



Quoting D l x (Reply 5):
What a day to leave the camera at home.

That comment almost makes me feel better. I'm sitting here in EWR wondering why it's always when I'm not spotting at DCA that stuff happens.



...Now they face an even greater danger...Tyrannousaurs in F-14's!!
User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22896 times:

Damn . . . had the choice of DCA, BWI or MDT today. Went to MDT.  hissyfit   banghead . Plus I just got a new camera. Oh well. Any news on how long the a/c will be stuck on the ground down there at DCA? Regards, Logan in DC


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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22902 times:



Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 12):
If I am looking correctly, the only 757 departure close to this time is 1234, scheduled into JFK.

Since when is Delta operating 757s on DCA-JFK?! Is this only on Sunday evenings? In the last year or so, they went from all CRJs to having a 737 and MD-88 rotation pretty much every day...Perhaps this was around the time they switched the Shuttle to E175s.

Nice upgrade for the route though.


User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22849 times:



Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 12):
If I am looking correctly, the only 757 departure close to this time is 1234, scheduled into JFK.

And DL's website says that it's "awaiting takeoff". I'm pretty sure that's the one.



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User currently offlineMd94 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22692 times:

I just missed it by a few hours, I flew out on DL at 1100 hours from DCA.


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User currently offlineDLATL777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 31 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22416 times:

Shows new ETD of 10:25pm

User currently offlineD l x From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11268 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22403 times:



Quoting DLATL777 (Reply 19):

Shows new ETD of 10:25pm


I don't think that's possible. Another photographer caught a photo of fire crews foaming the engine. It's not flying today.



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User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 22249 times:



Quoting D l x (Reply 20):
I don't think that's possible. Another photographer caught a photo of fire crews foaming the engine. It's not flying today.

perhaps a new a/c ferried in



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 22172 times:



Quoting D l x (Reply 20):
I don't think that's possible. Another photographer caught a photo of fire crews foaming the engine. It's not flying today.

Just a SWAG (scientific wild-arse guess), but figure a day or two for an investigation (during which time a replacement engine, other parts, and personnel will start trucking towards DCA from a MX facility). Once the investigation is concluded and the aircraft is released back to the airline, the engine change and any related repair work can commence, so figure another a couple of days for all that. Bottomline SWAG is that it'll be back in the air on Thursday, Friday at the latest.


User currently offlineSkyguyB727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 22173 times:

I'm surprised they didn't do an emergency evac. Wouldn't a fire be just cause to evacuate?

User currently offlineJoseKMLB From United States of America, joined May 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 22128 times:



Quoting Spartanmjf (Reply 12):

That be the flight and they are going to change A/C from another inbound flight.


25 Spartanmjf : I also presume that there are a number of DL aircraft that RON at National beginning at or around 20:00 - one of these could be pressed into service t
26 JoseKMLB : They already have it changed to another flight already enroute to DCA from ATL
27 DLATL777 : Another aircraft is presumed. Obviously, this 757 is done.
28 RFields5421 : An evac is a guarantee of injuries, quite probably some serious ones. Secondly, an evac increases the chances of passengers going out of the wing ove
29 D L X : Good thing I was there to report, huh?
30 737-990 : Still nothing on all the cable outlets. Then again it's Sunday, they all have prerecorded shows for the last few hours because as we all know no news
31 D L X : I wouldn't be surprised if it never gets reported. No one was hurt, no one even deplaned. Plane was towed away and the airport reopened. To the media
32 C5LOAD : Very true, but what about crews. The ones that are on the RONing a/c are already in bed, so you would have to alert a standby crew probably out of on
33 RFields5421 : That's the best kind - you get to see the emergency crews in action, and they do their job so well the mainstream media does not care. Though I doubt
34 DeltaL1011man : DL/NW have all PWs on the 757s. Even the 300s
35 AirlineBrat : Unless this happened in LA. In that case, there would be a swarm of local media operated helicopters circling the airport trying the get the perfect
36 76794p : I was at RIC all day today. I wish i was there, so close yet so far away
37 Tharanga : Much more minor things would have been sensationalised by the media if it were an Airbus, and about a month ago. Thank you for the reporting. Surely
38 Contrails : Funny, there was nothing on the morning news - TV or radio. The DC media usually jumps all over something like this.
39 Alphaomega : Very true....if the ARFF crews are already there, evacuating may hurt rather than help. In the US, the response time for an ARFF crew is 60 seconds f
40 OPNLguy : Meanwhile, Good Morning America is all over this COA diversion into MIA due to turbulence injuries....
41 StarAlliance38 : Really? I was on an US Airways Express flight whose gears wouldn't come down which diverted to JFK and no media coverage haha
42 D L X : I honestly was expecting the slides to open up, but I think a good reason they didn't was that it was in a crowded area on the tarmac with at least 4
43 OPNLguy : Yep, kinda hard to scare the snot out of folks, er, inform the public, when you don't have the requisite visuals.....
44 KGAIflyer : Now really. With stories about Mayor Fenty's (yet another) car crash Sunday night, Marion Berry's latest floozy and scandal, and (yet another) Metro
45 RJpieces : Presumably the same crew operated it up to JFK later in the night no?
46 Lrdc9 : Again!!?? Dear god . . .
47 Jcf5002 : I regularly spot at the latter two... I need to start spotting at DCA now that I'm working in DC.
48 KGAIflyer : But . . . he says they're "in love." ( Awwwww . . . ) I guess that makes hiring your girlfriend to a no-bid $5000 consulting contract okay.
49 ARFFdude : 60 seconds? Wow, you're faster than I am! Our actual requirements, under FAR 139.319 are that the first truck be able to reach the midpoint of the fa
50 EMBQA : No... if the fire is contained to the nacelle, unless it spreads...which is very unlikely.... you're safer in the plane. The famous CAL DC-10 aborted
51 WestWing : Question for the OP for clarification. Did you see whether the engine fire ignited immediately when they increased thrust to takeoff levels after bein
52 DALMD88 : Does anyone know the aircraft number involved?
53 September11 : 757 engine fire on takeoff is unheard of ...
54 Post contains links RFields5421 : FAA Incident Summary http://www.faa.gov/data_research/acc...y_data/events01/media/34_652DL.txt
55 N623JB : Is this an old aircraft that caught on fire? If so, its time to replace them with new ones...Aircraft must not be OVERWORKED. That goes for the other
56 UsAirways16bwi : Any possibility that this was a birdstrike? Theres A LOT of birds around DCA and the air cannons help somewhat but not 100%
57 RFields5421 : The FAA Aircraft Registration database says this was Ser nr 24392 with an airworthiness certificate date of 7/28/89 - so it is a few days over 20 year
58 Post contains images Lrdc9 : I fail to see the relevancy of this statement. It was only the engine which caught fire and further it was contained. Just because an a/c has engine
59 Michlis : Possibly an endorsement to replace their 757s with new Airbus aircraft?
60 RFields5421 : I agree with you - because the engines are not the originals on the plane. They are rebuilt at certain times. You can have a 50 year old aircraft wit
61 EMBQA : Agreed...it's pretty clear that you have no idea as to what you're talking about. Age has no bearing as to this event.
62 JoseKMLB : No it happened at 20-30kts on the roll out. and pax saw sparks boom bangs thats about it.
63 N623JB : It seems that the plane's engines need to be replaced with the engines that are suitable for the plane and not just "to be replaced with something ne
64 EMBQA : What the heck are you talking about........???? Boeing offered the 757 with two engine choices... The Rolls-Royce and the Pratt & Whitney. You CAN'T
65 0NEWAIR0 : What the heck are you talking about?
66 Acabgd : Hahhaa, this really made me laugh. "Hey, I've got this PW engine, new, but it doesn't work really well. Get me some RR stuff here, presto!" Some peop
67 D L X : Unlikely. I didn't see many birds in the area, and the plane was not moving fast when the engine blew.
68 Coronado990 : Ouch. Someone needs to take Aviation 101.
69 B727LVR : Say what? I fail to see what you are tring to get across. Aircraft are built to use certain engines. In case of the 757 it can use like 3 different e
70 Cubastar : It seems that the plane's engines need to be replaced with the engines that are suitable for the plane and not just "to be replaced with something new
71 Deltajets : All of Deltas 757's are pw 2000's. And i totally agree that the age of the aircraft has nothing to do with this particular incident. I sure do hope t
72 Post contains images OPNLguy : That's probably Art Collage... Regular college is something else...    As far as engines go, it is possible to do an "intermix" where they're not t
73 Post contains images DCflygeek : They are repairing/replacing the #1 engine outside so it must not be too serious. (Apologies for the poor quality photos but they were taken from insi
74 OPNLguy : The heck with it being inside/outside a hangar, the fact that they're fixing it with the engine still on the wing means it'll be back in service PDQ.
75 EMBQA : I would say with the fan cowls off they are getting eady to replace it. It reads more like a compressor stall then an actual 'engine fire'
76 Alphaomega : I always thought 1min was tough but a lot can happen in 3min...either way, be quick!
77 N623JB : OK sorry for the confusions here..with the R.R. engines..I was just using them as an "example"...and as far as the planes..they need to do maintence c
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