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User currently offlineMjzair From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 398 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Can anyone please confirm (or negate) the rumor that Southwest will start flying to Newburgh Stewart Airport in New York (and when)? And if possible, any new destinations announced by them?
Thanks,
Mark

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User currently offlineThomacf From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

What city is that near?

User currently offlineDc10@dfw From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

It is near Pokeepsie NY (not sure of spelling) but anyway it is about 50 miles + / - north of NYC.

User currently offlineMjzair From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

The closest landmark is West Point NY.
It is already served by
AA to ORD.
US to BWI and PHL.
MIDWAY to RDU.
Comair to CVG.
ASA to ATL.
UA to IAD.


User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6750 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

SWF is Newburgh, NY (Stewart Airport, formerly a U.S. Air Force base).

Southwest is unlikely to add any new cities this year, and they tend to keep that sort of information very close to the vest. I doubt you'll see them serving SWF within the next 12 months, but you'll likely see them there within the next 10 years.  Smile


User currently offlineABQ757 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

WN already is already serving Islip, why add SWF?

User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3267 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

The NYC area is such a huge market, they have a large population to draw from. ISP serves Long Island and the eastern boroughs of NYC, while it would be rather impractical for someone north of the city or someone in Northern New Jersey to drive there. Also, ALB would be too far for them. Consider this: they serve into 2 alternate cities for Boston. They are MHT and PVD. They serve SJC and OAK in the CA Bay Area as well as LAX, BUR, ONT and SNA in the Greater LA Basin. So if you have doubts about it, there IS a market there at SWF for Southwest


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User currently offlineJsheldon From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1291 times:

Why add SWF? Because it would take people from the SWF area (mainly me) over 2 hours (maybe more with heavy traffic) to get from SWF to ISP. Most people are not willing to drive 2 hours in heavy traffic when they have to catch a flight. It'd be nice to see something larger then a F100 (although I do enjoy seeing the AA F100 while I'm there, and yes I do see the C-5's) but I can remember when Delta used to have 737's or 727's (I cant remember which, I was 7 or 8) and now Delta only has Comair RJs and ASA RJ's. I hope somebody would begin service to SWF...

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19209 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1288 times:

Now we have established that there is a huge population in NYC and that the people are widely distrubuted, it would seem that SWF is perfectly located. In your humble opinion, what destinations would initially be served from the airport? Those in Florida perhaps, i.e. FLL, TPA?




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User currently offlineMjzair From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

Delta also used to operate the MD-88 from ATL.
If there is a question as to market size... I have flown about 8 times in and out of Stewart on US, ASA, Comair, AA, and Delta Back in the day, and they were always at least 75% full, and these were mid-weeks....


User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Why bother to drive from the Newburgh area to Islip. Go up to Hartford!


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User currently onlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6750 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

BDL is nearly two hours' drive from SWF with little traffic; it's really not an option for most folks in the Hudson Valley. The catchment area for SWF would be Dutchess, Putnam, Orange, and Westchester Counties in New York, as well as some spillover from folks willing to drive up from the Bronx on the Thruway, Danbury CT, and even potentially Scranton & Wilkes-Barre PA (due to the "Southwest effect"). There are well over 1.5 million people within 50 miles (not even counting NYC) and SWF lies at the junction of two major interstates.

User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

Although SWF sounds good and attractive for Southwest to add service to, I think there are other cities on their list that they might want to consentrate on who have less of an option than SWF does. Like Norfolk, they have quite a few flights, but where is the nearest SW city from them? I dont think it is 2 hours away. I would asume SWF to be added within the next 1-5 years, but SW does take into account lots of things when they bring a city into service, and they dont want that city to fail, which has happened only 3 times in their history. As for now, ISP, BDL and ALB might just have to be where you need to go for SW. How far of a drive is ALB? It cant be any more than 70 miles and that is probably why SW doesnt want to start service now.

User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

Yeah, but BDL is better than Islip for those in Dutchess, and Putnam counties.

Both 2 hours, but BDL has no bridges to cross, no tolls to pay and less traffic to get to.



Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineJsheldon From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 205 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1245 times:

Hey! Don't forget us in Rockland County.. we (and I dont speak for all of us but...) I'm sure most of us would rather drive up to SWF then down to one of the big NYC airports.

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