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User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

Hello everyone,

I know this topic has been discussed a lot in the forum, but given that I am finishing college in one year from now, and I would like to start a career as a FA, I would like to know what my options are so I can start preparing myself.
I do know how tiring and unglamourous the possition must be, but I really want to give it a try, I really love working for people and find that the challenge of giving your best no matter what is very motivating, so my questions are:

- Which international airlines have foreign bases or hire people from abroad?
- I've considered applying to EK, but since I'm gay (I don't know if this is a stereotypical thought of myself) and islamic countries consider that illegal and punisheable with dead, I'm not sure if that would be my place, so I would appreciate it if somebody could clarify how is the gay situation in UAE in general.
- Do I need to have a first aid certificate?
- I am slightly overweight, but totally healthy, would this be an obstacle?
- What is your favourite thing about being a cabin attendant, what is what you consider the worst thing?

I really thank you for your support and your answers.
Have a great week you all!
KL-AM


flyOM
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User currently offlineYYZA330 From Canada, joined May 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4717 times:

EK and Etihad both employ gay Cabin Crew  Wink

User currently offlineAtlwest1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4660 times:

My favorite thing about being a flight attendant is meeting new people and just helping to make someones travels a good as I can. Also the ability to be able to go just about anywhere in this world is awesome. The down side of it but totally is dealable is when your on reserve not knowing in far advance where your flying to. Also Irregular ops when you get pushed to the limits of your duty envelop or beyond because of Weather or something else. Apply have a good attitude, do your best and keep your head up. You will be fine and successful  Smile


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User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4605 times:



Quoting YYZA330 (Reply 1):
EK and Etihad both employ gay Cabin Crew

Openly gay? Now you got me more interested  Wink

Quoting Atlwest1 (Reply 2):
My favorite thing about being a flight attendant is meeting new people and just helping to make someones travels a good as I can. Also the ability to be able to go just about anywhere in this world is awesome. The down side of it but totally is dealable is when your on reserve not knowing in far advance where your flying to. Also Irregular ops when you get pushed to the limits of your duty envelop or beyond because of Weather or something else. Apply have a good attitude, do your best and keep your head up. You will be fine and successful

Thanks a lot for your answers! This sounds great, I can't wait!!!

Greetings

KL-AM



flyOM
User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4461 times:



Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- Do I need to have a first aid certificate?

Most likely you'll earn one during training with the airline.

Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- I am slightly overweight, but totally healthy, would this be an obstacle?

With EK/EY/QR it might depending on other factors. The Middle Eastern big three do openly recruit based on looks, but it's more about grooming and hygiene than natural looks I'd say.

Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- I've considered applying to EK, but since I'm gay (I don't know if this is a stereotypical thought of myself) and islamic countries consider that illegal and punisheable with dead, I'm not sure if th

Oh honey I'd say 90% of our fellows are openly gay (there'd be no mistake either way). It's okay so long as you follow certain rules while in Dubai, like not making out or holding hands in public.

Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- Which international airlines have foreign bases or hire people from abroad?

EK/EY/QR/GF all have openings for people from abroad. I've been crew with EK for almost a year now and from what I've heard from peers at other airlines and galley gossip, EK and EY are the way to go in the Middle East. Qatar has some horrendous night ground sits from what I hear, and the work environment over there in Doha seems pretty intense. EY would probably the best setting given that they are the new kids on the block and have established themselves quite quickly. Also, given that they are wholly supported by the Abu Dhabi government (largest sovereign wealth fund holder in the world) you have stability that you wouldn't find at other airlines. EK is really unique in the sheer size and scope of our operations and the variety of destinations we have in our network. I love it to bits. Yes there are difficulties working for EK and living in Dubai, but I believe the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Working with such an international crew and living in the accomadation that the airline provides us has been a real unique experience in itself. I'm off to London Heathrow next, then to Mauritius then to Hong Kong and onwards...how could you not love that  Smile

Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- What is your favourite thing about being a cabin attendant, what is what you consider the worst thing?

I'd say the best thing are working with my peers - meeting the people along the way that I've had the privilege of meeting, and getting to see places in the world I thought I'd never go to. Lagos would be one of them...! Working on an airplane is also an awesome experience that I've always wanted to have. Worst - being away from friends and family (though your fellow crew will grow to become that too in a different way). There are certain flights that are dead tiring to work, and certain routes that have a disproportionate number of difficult passengers to deal with. But for every one of those flights, we have others that are a joy to work and a great destination to be in.

If you have any other questions, particularly about joining EK, please don't hesitate to PM me or email me and I'd be glad to help. Though I have to clarify that right now EK are not hiring cabin crew (and probably won't until next year at the earliest) but EY just started again, and QR are also still recruiting.



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User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4256 times:

SQ_EK_freak THANKS A LOT!!!  Smile


flyOM
User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4210 times:



Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
- Which international airlines have foreign bases or hire people from abroad?
- I've considered applying to EK, but since I'm gay (I don't know if this is a stereotypical thought of myself) and islamic countries consider that illegal and punisheable with dead, I'm not sure if that would be my place, so I would appreciate it if somebody could clarify how is the gay situation in UAE in general.
- Do I need to have a first aid certificate?
- I am slightly overweight, but totally healthy, would this be an obstacle?
- What is your favourite thing about being a cabin attendant, what is what you consider the worst thing?

My airline (Air New Zealand) have a cabin crew base in London, who operate LHR-LAX-LHR and LHR-HKG-LHR. People from all European countries work for them and indeed some commute from Spain, Belgium, etc.

At Air NZ, proof of enrolment in a first aid certificate programme is sufficient for the interview. You must complete it before the first day of training.

All the ex-EK guys at Air NZ are gay, and most obviously so. However, your weight WILL count against you at these airlines. Air NZ and no doubt other "Western" airlines take a more holistic view, and judge you on whether they feel you will be the best candidate for the job, regardless of what you look like. Some of our newer crew are well over 100kg, but they are fantastic to work with.

And the best thing about the job? From my personal point of view, I'm well paid and have lots of time off at home. I get to work with different people every time I go to work, ranging in age from 22 to 70. I get to represent my country to visitors and interact with people from all over the world.

The worst thing? No matter what airline you work at, you always feel that management don't understand you, and don't give you everything you need to do your job perfectly. For example, at Air NZ we have far less crew on the aircraft than most of the competition (14 on a 744, 10 on a 772) and the galley equipment we use is .. basic, to be charitable. And jetlag can take over your life (I'm often not tired in the slightest at 4am at home). The first two years are the easiest for jetlag, after that you're pretty much constantly 'lagged'. Still, I'm still enjoying it 8 years later.



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User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3832 times:



Quoting KLAM (Reply 5):
SQ_EK_freak THANKS A LOT!!! Smile

No problem at all  Smile

Quoting TG992 (Reply 6):
The worst thing? No matter what airline you work at, you always feel that management don't understand you, and don't give you everything you need to do your job perfectly. For example, at Air NZ we have far less crew on the aircraft than most of the competition (14 on a 744, 10 on a 772) and the galley equipment we use is .. basic, to be charitable.

This is one thing I don't get about Air NZ, and probably the thing I respect the most about Air NZ crew. I was pretty shocked the first time I heard about crew staffing levels on some of your guys' long hauls. And when I found out more about some of the issues you guys have to deal with regarding management and other internal issues, I really respect the level of service you guys dish out day in and day out regardless. It doesn't surprise me that Air NZ consistently ranks within the top ten in the world at all - and each time I set foot on an Air NZ aircraft I always have the utmost admiration for the crew and the way they go about their duties with professionalism and that distinct Kiwi charm despite the hardware (galley I mean) that's given to you and the challenging work environment presented to you. I see how crew at my airline sometimes react to pressure from management, a power tripping Purser or an unfortunate situation and can only wish we all could cope with it similarly. Keep it up, you're great role models for crew everywhere!



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User currently offlineMauiman31 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3740 times:
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Quoting TG992 (Reply 6):
Air NZ and no doubt other "Western" airlines take a more holistic view, and judge you on whether they feel you will be the best candidate for the job, regardless of what you look like. Some of our newer crew are well over 100kg, but they are fantastic to work with.

A positive change in the US. When I was hired as an FA in the mid-70's, it was a lot about looks - fit, slim, cute (woman or man) or you didn't make it past the first screening for the major carriers at least. The airline I worked for had the women at the reception area taking the initial applications or greeting a potential candidates make that first call. If she deemed that the person didn't fit the "image". Their app was sent to File 13 or they were given the rush interview and then out the door. So shallow. But, that was the era.


User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3560 times:



Quoting Mauiman31 (Reply 8):
A positive change in the US. When I was hired as an FA in the mid-70's, it was a lot about looks - fit, slim, cute (woman or man) or you didn't make it past the first screening for the major carriers at least. The airline I worked for had the women at the reception area taking the initial applications or greeting a potential candidates make that first call. If she deemed that the person didn't fit the "image". Their app was sent to File 13 or they were given the rush interview and then out the door. So shallow. But, that was the era.

I think a midpoint would be the best, because you cannot hire based on looks nowadays, but it is also great to see a fairly nice looking crew, it's good publicity, so to say. Furthermore, I have experienced very competent and service oriented people who might not be the best looking, so I guess it all depends on what the company wants.

Quoting TG992 (Reply 6):
My airline (Air New Zealand) have a cabin crew base in London, who operate LHR-LAX-LHR and LHR-HKG-LHR. People from all European countries work for them and indeed some commute from Spain, Belgium, etc.

At Air NZ, proof of enrolment in a first aid certificate programme is sufficient for the interview. You must complete it before the first day of training

Thanks a lot, I now have a new company to take into consideration!  Smile



flyOM
User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1633 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3480 times:



Quoting KLAM (Reply 9):
I think a midpoint would be the best, because you cannot hire based on looks nowadays, but it is also great to see a fairly nice looking crew, it's good publicity, so to say. Furthermore, I have experienced very competent and service oriented people who might not be the best looking, so I guess it all depends on what the company wants.

I'd place more emphasis on grooming etiquette that physical looks. Nothing looks more unprofessional than an unkempt crew.



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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3257 times:



Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 7):
This is one thing I don't get about Air NZ, and probably the thing I respect the most about Air NZ crew.

Thank you VERY much for your kind words. They have genuinely made my day. It's really nice to get a comment like that, particularly from a colleague from a different company.



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User currently offlinePqdtw From Netherlands, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting TG992 (Reply 6):
ement don't understand you, and don't give you everything you need to do your job perfectly. For example, at Air NZ we have far less crew on the aircraft than most of the competition (14 on a 744, 10 on a 772) and the galley equipment we use is .. basic, to be charitable.

That's royal compared to what we have at Northwest: 12 on a 744 !
Yes, 12.  Yeah sure

[Edited 2009-08-05 01:32:41]

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