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User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4693 times:
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KLM will change the YVR departure time from 19:20 to 21:25.
Arrival at AMS will be 15:00. Less choice of connections.
Why would they do this? Anyone at KLM know why?
Still an MD-11, which is good news.

BA84

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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4600 times:



Quoting BA84 (Thread starter):
Less choice of connections.
Why would they do this?

While I am not with KLM, I can speak to this question as a retiree of an airline who made schedule changes on a regular basis...

Generally speaking, the "why?" is, as it typically is with any well-managed airline, would almost invariably be something like aircraft rotations being re-aligned in the interest of improving profit potential (or at least reducing losses in the case of AF/KL at present).

As for the 'less choice of connections' issue, KL no doubt took a good look at the recent history of connecting traffic with the ealier departure time and figured that the 'pluses' of the later departure from YVR outweighed any 'minuses' and/or the traffic needing to arrive for earlier connections can be duly re-routed on other flights of Air France/KLM and/or Skyteam partners.

All in a day in the life of an airline. While not especially complicated, it does require difficult, sometimes seemingly counter-intuitive, decisions to be made on a regular basis.

The good news is that KLM appears to be satisfied with the performance of AMS-YVR-AMS... as evidenced by their maintaining the same number of frequencies and MD-11 equipment which, iirc, is the largest aircraft KL has assigned to the route in the past ~decade.


User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4535 times:
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Thank you, Tango-Bravo, for your excellent explanation.
I will probably take AF SEA-CDG and return KL CDG-AMS-YVR.

BA84


User currently offlineEcuadorianMD11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4503 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 1):
I can speak to this question as a retiree of an airline who made schedule changes on a regular basis...

Then, if I may bud in like this, may I ask you this question Tango Bravo:

What if an airline has two identical planes sitting on an apron, both ready to go.
What would be the things taken in consideration by the likes of yourself to send the one plane on a route to (for argument´s sake) Canada and another one to Latin America.
I have the KLM MD-11 in mind.........

I´ve asked this question a few times in different threads and never got an answer...........is this just random or do you look at maintenance schedules due just in case something were to go wrong on the other end.........(certain airports have better facilities than other more remote locations)..........I´m just guessing here.
Any insight into the world of an airline planner would be appreciated.

Ecuadorian MD11.


User currently offlineConnector4you From Canada, joined May 2001, 932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4204 times:



Quoting BA84 (Thread starter):
KLM will change the YVR departure time from 19:20 to 21:25.
Arrival at AMS will be 15:00. Less choice of connections.

KLM's pricey fares between Vancouver and Amsterdam it's a clear indication that this is a pretty strong O&D route for them.

On the other hand Northwest Airline offers an excellent connection flight to Amsterdam out of Seattle arriving in Amsterdam at 7:40 AM. And is cheaper too !

AirTransat also runs a twice weekly summer-seasonal YVR-AMS . The Wednesday run it's a non-stop, with a 1:30pm YVR departure and 8:20am Schiphol arrival. Also cheaper than KLM's'


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4160 times:



Quoting Tango-Bravo (Reply 1):
The good news is that KLM appears to be satisfied with the performance of AMS-YVR-AMS... as evidenced by their maintaining the same number of frequencies and MD-11 equipment which, iirc, is the largest aircraft KL has assigned to the route in the past ~decade.

Dont forget the MP 763 from past summers has been pulled.



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