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Aegean To Switch From STN To LHR?  
User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
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apparently A3 are to switch from ATH-STN to ATH-LHR in late October

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...ir-switching-to-heathrow-from.html


No word on which terminal .

Since they are joining *A and it is only two flights per day I wonder whether they will be allowed to squeeze into T1 ? That way they could make better connections to US/UA and AC for transAtlantic services and also possibly codeshare with BD to get more UK originating pax . Nothing on A3 website yet so I just wondered whether anyone knows for sure yet which terminal they will use .


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User currently offlineLxlgu From South Africa, joined Sep 2000, 1085 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3557 times:

Hi Kiwi Andrew!

Aegean will be using Terminal 1
First flight 25 October

Cheers!
Toiny


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

I think they would have been better suited to LGW or LTN.

I've always thought of Aegean as a charter style airline.


User currently offlineCyba From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

A3 is a full service airline and a rather good one at that. Pretty much always on time and service with a smile. This is great news for them.

I wonder who they'd have gotten their slots from - most likely a loan from their friends in star alliance.


User currently onlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

Obviously this is a Star Alliance related but move, but I wonder if some of their pax may not be too impressed as theres a large Greek community in north London, and although LHR as the crow flies is nearer, STN is nicer to get to.


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User currently offlineTrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2952 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 4):
Obviously this is a Star Alliance related but move, but I wonder if some of their pax may not be too impressed as theres a large Greek community in north London, and although LHR as the crow flies is nearer, STN is nicer to get to.

This is a perfectly valid point. As I am aware no other airlines fly to ATH from STN. Maybe someone can varify this?

I think now alot of people in the north London region will be travelling to LTN and catching an Easyjet flight. Much less hassle then driving round to LHR!

Bad move I must say.

D.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26796 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2940 times:



Quoting Trent900 (Reply 5):
Bad move I must say.

They are doing it to join the Star Alliance LHR hub and also to codeshare with a number of Star Airlines incl BD to the regions ( whats left of BD's regions )  Smile

Another thing that A3 will have to do is look for some more pilots. Over 25% of applications for jobs at Olympic Air operating the A319/A320 were from current A3 pilots.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2932 times:
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Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 4):
Obviously this is a Star Alliance related but move, but I wonder if some of their pax may not be too impressed as theres a large Greek community in north London, and although LHR as the crow flies is nearer, STN is nicer to get to.

I guess it depends which pax they are after . If they are after those visiting friends and relatives it may not be such a good move , if they are trying to attract people doing business in ATH and pax connecting from their future *A partners then it may be a good move . I guess at some point in the future we will find out whether of not this was a good move by how well ( or not ) the route does .

[Edited 2009-08-07 01:54:32]


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User currently offlineTrent900 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2902 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 6):
They are doing it to join the Star Alliance LHR hub and also to codeshare with a number of Star Airlines incl BD to the regions ( whats left of BD's regions )

Fare enough point but as kiwiandrew mentioned there maybe lots of Greeks that used aegean from STN to visit freinds and relatives which will now have to travel to LTN. I've already spoken to a few of my greek freinds about this and they are disappointed by the move. Lets hope Easyjet open-up their ATH route from STN again.  Big grin


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8525 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2890 times:
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Quoting Trent900 (Reply 8):


Fare enough point but as kiwiandrew mentioned there maybe lots of Greeks that used aegean from STN

credit where it is due , it was YVRLTN who said that not I . I have no real knowledge of the London Greek community so I was certainly unaware that STN was a more suitable airport for that community until YVRLTN mentioned it  Smile



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 2948 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2878 times:

an alternative would be the TK is handling London. 3 daily flights to LHR and 1 daily to STN.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26796 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Quoting Trent900 (Reply 8):
there maybe lots of Greeks that used aegean from STN to visit freinds and relatives which will now have to travel to LTN

My Greek family in London and Athens use whats the cheapest for their needs. Sometimes its LTN or LHR and sometimes LGW. I think A3 will gain more at LHR than alone at STN. Its high yield J class passengers they need to attract and being part of a Star Alliance hub will mean more opportunities. Also take into account that most Greeks in North London are of Cypriot origin and wouldnt be going to Athens.



Nowadays, there are more than 100 Greek communities in Britain, with around 150 to 180,000 Greek speakers in London, 85% of those come not from the mainland but from Cyprus. Greek-Cypriots are responsible for the most important influx of Greek people in London for centuries. Most of them came in the 1950s and 60s for economical reasons. Many leaving their country behind to find a better life in Britain with some also fleeing Cyprus after the Turkish invasion of 1974

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/...5/05/27/greek_london_feature.shtml

[Edited 2009-08-07 02:30:06]

User currently onlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

I used to live in Palmers Greek, er, Palmers Green Big grin north London all my life until I emigrated to Canada 4 years ago. And yes, there are a lot of Cypriots as opposed to Greeks, which is why the Helios / Ajet flights ex LTN to LCA were so popular and I believe ZB (??) took it over when they closed doors.

I also remember OA used A340's on their LHR / ATH route in summer, so I guess there is huge demand A3 want to tap into which is higher yielding, but I can see a bunch of the leisure O&D pax jumping ship to U2 over at LTN. Like Andrew says, time will tell if it was a good move or not, will what they gain with Star traffic outweigh what they loose with the 'back of the bus' pax??

And I wouldnt be surprised to see U2 add ATH ex STN.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 10):
an alternative would be the TK is handling London. 3 daily flights to LHR and 1 daily to STN.

For the same reason - there is a huge Turkish community in north London too, just that A3 dont have the fleet resources that TK do - yet - to do the same, which would be the ideal solution to keep all types of pax, but they have evidently assessed the market and concluded there is more to gain at LHR than STN. Even if it means pissing off some of your client base and sacrificing some of them to U2.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26796 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2621 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 12):
I also remember OA used A340's on their LHR / ATH route in summer,

They still do for most of the year now.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 12):
will what they gain with Star traffic outweigh what they loose with the 'back of the bus' pax??

I think that connections from Ireland and the UK regions will help and also some USA-Transit LHR- ATH might be picked up. Also there are plenty in the West/South London area who would use them. Greeks and foreigners alike.

I personally will certainly use them BD DUB-LHR then A3 LHR-ATH as Im Star Gold and love the idea of being able to fly a Greek airline and earn miles. At the moment I use LX Via ZRH and OA LHR-ATH ( no miles ) . If they offer some decent fares and connections then I think they will do well. Also they will be able to offer the Business passenger better ground facilities. Star Lounge T1 and lots of Star connections.

For the North London lot Wood Green is on the Piccadilly Line all the way to LHR.


User currently offlineATHYEG333 From Greece, joined Jun 2007, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Hi!

I think it is a good move! Don't forget connection with AC flights to YYZ, YUL, YEG and YYC,

all cities with (especially Toronto) big Greek populations. Most of AC flights, depart LHR

between 14:00 and 15:00, leaving enough time for a connection, with the A3's morning flight

arriving at 12:30.

However, I'd like A3 also keep one of its flights to STN, for passengers not interested in a

connection and want a more "easy" trip to London!  Wink


User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

Does A3 plan on adding more routes to LHR? Maybe SKG?

I hope they start more UK serivces, A3 seems like a very good airline.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26796 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2216 times:



Quoting Seemyseems (Reply 15):
Does A3 plan on adding more routes to LHR? Maybe SKG?

Yes A3 will indeed start LHR-SKG .


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