Enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6636 posts, RR: 13 Posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7501 times:
As usual this compares against what was selling week and not last year. In many cases airlines do not file accurate seasonal schedules until a few months before operation.
How to read, for example:
JFK-NBO 4/wk>1 SEP, OCT, DEC-
This means the flight increases from 4 per week to daily for Sep, Oct, and beyond December...but not November.
Also, don't get too caught up in my description of "NEW" or "CXLD". That's just a way of highlighting when the service is either going to zero or coming from zero. It may be that the service is/was/will be flown at another time and is not technically "canceled" or "new" if viewed over a longer period of time than the period I am referring to.
MIA-GHB NEW 0>4/WK NOV-
MIA-TCB NEW 0>4/WK NOV-
MIA-MHH 1>2 NOV-
MIA-EYW 6>7 NOV-
LAX-MMH 1>2 DEC-
MMH-RNO NEW 0>1 NOV-
MMH-SJC NEW 0>1 NOV-
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6431 times:
Quoting Enilria (Reply 9): SLC has been doing better than all of the DL hubs in the cutbacks. I suspect they are still actually up versus last year. Thus, I wouldn't be shocked they are taking a little haircut.
I am surprised with DSM-SLC being cut in reducing West Coast flow.
Steex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1537 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6366 times:
Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 7): Someone posted SLC-NRT goes away in October. What is up with the cutbacks in SLC?
The DSM and FSD cuts at SLC are merely undoing a recent addition by DL as they tried to funnel NW fliers west through SLC rather than MSP. I'm sure a combination of factors made them underwhelming performers, including the fact that the 1x daily flights most likely meant most itineraries still pushed people through MSP anyway. I believe MKE has had off-and-on SLC service, but for reasons similar to those above, it's probably more efficient to let people connect at MSP where they can still reach the major western destinations (not to mention options on YX). The few people on a given day who are flying routes like MKE-SGU probably aren't that surprised by having to double connect.
SLC-STL/YVR are both seasonal reductions that have gone on for a few years, expect to see those frequencies restored again in the spring/summer. SLC-NRT is most likely suffering from issues such as low O&D, competition with in-house LAX/SFO/PDX/SEA-NRT flights, and restricted aircraft performance due to SLC hot-and-high conditions. Obviously that particular cut is being discussed extensively in other threads.
one other thing that surprises me about this is that MSN is keeping CVG and getting ATL cut. I think MSN and Huntington, WV will be the only two cities that have CVG service that don't have ATL service.
Uh oh...sounds like AirTran isn't doing well in Milwaukee? Or it's a sign that they are coming to truce with Delta, that if Midwest dies then Delta won't challenge AirTran on MKE business markets.
*I'm kidding about thost comments*...but I post this to point out that not every change in flight frequency (plus or minus) is necessarily a bellwether of general performance, nor is it necessarily sending a signal to competitors.
I really do appreciate Enilria posting this information each week, and sometimes the moves posted really are indicative of broader things. But plenty of times, changes which are run-of-the mill seasonal adjustments, or changes which are relatively isolated adjustments, are cited as proof of much bigger things.
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5404 times:
Quoting CIDflyer (Reply 20): Huntington, WV will be the only two cities that have CVG service that don't have ATL service.
CVG-HTS is subsidized by the state of WV. I think it ends in 2010.
Quoting Knope2001 (Reply 22): Uh oh...sounds like AirTran isn't doing well in Milwaukee? Or it's a sign that they are coming to truce with Delta, that if Midwest dies then Delta won't challenge AirTran on MKE business markets.
Is FL MKE to Florida operations starting up seasonal operations or is that year round?
Yes, Enilria does a great job on these post. Not easy.
Knope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2661 posts, RR: 30 Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5272 times:
Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 23): Is FL MKE to Florida operations starting up seasonal operations or is that year round?
MKE-MCO has been year-round since 2002.
MKE-TPA has alternated between seasonal and year-round several times, currently year-round..
MKE-RSW is only daily during the peak season, Saturday-only the rest of the year
MKE-FLL is seasonal
So this November MKE-RSW and MKE-FLL daily returns. Beyond that, however, there are no significant seasonal Florida expansions published yet. Come the February schedule, though, it's almost a given they'll do some seasonal increases.
25 Enilria: Actually I agree it isn't a sign of them doing badly. It is probably a symptom of their expansion. The new destinations they have added in some measu
26 Pensacolaguy: Boy -- That lasted long (Being sarcastic) No more Mesaba Airlines SAAB 340s in TLH.
27 SierraAir: Most likely a one-off week around Thanksgiving. 2x daily service is re-available in December.
28 Enilria: As of the day I pulled the data it was loaded until May2010 when it returns to 2. I'm not sure whether your data or my data is more updated, but it w
29 MAH4546: Nope. Though, too note, FLL-TLH survives, but will become a CRJ.
30 FlyPNS1: I don't think it even has anything to do with their expansion. It's just a regular seasonal reduction which they've done in past years.
31 Knope2001: The 5th MKE-ATL was added at the last minute this summer as a replacement for the dropped MKE-Branson flight. It even departed MKE at exaclty the sam
32 Yellowtail: When I read this first, you ahd me all excited that KQ was going to start service or DL was finally getting NBO up and running....THEN i read..."for
33 MSNtriathlete: I am somewhat surprised to see MSN-ATL cut, as DL seemed to like building up its ATL hub. On the other hand, even with some recent trips to ATL, I al
34 Hatbutton: No the OAG update doesn't make any sense. They still offer the shuttle and will continue to offer it even beyond September. So I don't know why it sh
35 Enilria: Sorry for pulling your heartstrings... That's not actually my quote. Anyway, it's just a matter of time, CVG is doomed. It will likely move to DTW or
36 MSNtriathlete: Oops, Sorry Enilria! I hit the wrong "quote" button and mistakenly attributed the quote to you! Thanks for all the time and effort you put into this p
37 CIDflyer: this one is certainly a head scratcher, I would have figured CVG would have been cut before ATL. I could see as the economy improves a lot of the cit
38 EXAAUADL: Anyone else fly these. I would think there would be state traffic Seems like DL will only serve smaller midwestern markets served by FL No, BMI is be
39 FlyPNS1: Gulfstream (CO Connection) flies TLH-TPA. They fly TLH-MCO but only on Sundays, but with DL gone I wouldn't be surprised to see more service added.