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AA MD-80 Cabin Configurations  
User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6213 times:

On the AA website, it shows two configurations for the MD-80. One is the standard 140-seat configuration, while the other has only 136 seats (the config. before AA removed a galley and added four extra seats). Are there actually any MD-80’s that are still like that, or have they all been converted to the new configuration?

Also, have all the ex-TWA MD-80’s received the same model of coach seats as the standard AA ones (with the headrests etc.)? For a while, some just had new seat coverings but I’ve not seen any of those for ages now.

Are there any other cabin differences between different MD-80 aircraft?

Thanks!


Ryan / HKG
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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3217 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6131 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Thread starter):
One is the standard 140-seat configuration, while the other has only 136 seats (the config. before AA removed a galley and added four extra seats). Are there actually any MD-80’s that are still like that, or have they all been converted to the new configuration?

The S80 fleet is now 100% in the 16F/124Y (140 total) configuration, both AA-original and ex-TW birds.

Quoting DFWEagle (Thread starter):
Also, have all the ex-TWA MD-80’s received the same model of coach seats as the standard AA ones (with the headrests etc.)?

The ex-TW birds have a slightly different seat type from the original AA ones that do *not* have the headrests. I'm not sure if there are any plans in the works to bring the AA seat to the ex-TW birds either.

Quoting DFWEagle (Thread starter):
Are there any other cabin differences between different MD-80 aircraft?

Yes, the AA-original aircraft have powerports in the first couple of rows of Y, and again periodically throughout - check SeatGuru or SeatExpert for what rows they are. Conversely, the ex-TW birds do not have them, as far as I know.


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6105 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
The S80 fleet is now 100% in the 16F/124Y

According to SABRE, six a/c still retain the 16F/120Y configuration. They are: 242, 294, 296, 4WN, 4XP, and 4YA. The remaining 266 a/c have been reconfigured.

Quoting DFWEagle (Thread starter):
Also, have all the ex-TWA MD-80’s received the same model of coach seats as the standard AA ones (with the headrests etc.)?

No, but there is/was a plan in place to swap out seats from retiring MD-80s with the TWA seats. I know there were scheduling and space concerns on whether or not there were the available facilities and manpower to actually do this.

Quoting DFWEagle (Thread starter):
Are there any other cabin differences between different MD-80 aircraft?

Once the remaining six get the new configuration, there will be two differences. One, as noted, some TWA birds will have their original seats (although some already have AA seats) and two, on TWA birds, the first class lav is in front of the closet, directly aft of the forward entry door, and the closet is behind the lav. On AA birds, there is a closet directly aft of the forward entry door, and the lav is behind that. That won't change.



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User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5894 times:



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):



Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 2):

Thanks for the replies guys, very helpful!  Smile

Quoting Qqflyboy (Reply 2):
According to SABRE, six a/c still retain the 16F/120Y configuration. They are: 242, 294, 296, 4WN, 4XP, and 4YA.

I could be wrong, but I think 242, 294 and 296 may no longer be active with AA.



Ryan / HKG
User currently onlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1697 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5869 times:

I sat in seat 18A on an ex-TW MD-83. It lacked headrests and powerports.


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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5836 times:

The ex-TWA MD-80s have a "McDonnell-Douglas" logo near the handle of the window shades, whereas regular AA MD-80s don't.


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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5713 times:



Quoting TSS (Reply 5):
The ex-TWA MD-80s have a "McDonnell-Douglas" logo near the handle of the window shades, whereas regular AA MD-80s don't.

Also, the vents that are above the windows are slightly different - the TWA ones are flush with the sidewall and the AA ones are slightly raised  Smile

Also, while the TWA seats aren't the same, it appears they've all been reupholstered to match the AA seats (minus the headrests)


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Does AA still fly ex-TW M82s? Or did they park all ex-TW M82s that were acquired by AA?


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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5588 times:



Quoting DFWEagle (Reply 3):
I could be wrong, but I think 242, 294 and 296 may no longer be active with AA.

I can't say for certain one way or the other, but they're listed in the "active fleet" list in SABRE which was updated this morning (7Aug09) at 5:55 CDT.



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User currently offlineNWA320 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5476 times:

How many ex TW MD80's do they have?

User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Quoting NWA320 (Reply 9):
How many ex TW MD80's do they have?

At least 56. AA took about 100 MD-80s in the beginning from TWA. AA currently has 266 MD-80s in service.

[Edited 2009-08-07 16:37:08]


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User currently offlineTrijetsRMissed From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2400 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4980 times:



Quoting TSS (Reply 5):
The ex-TWA MD-80s have a "McDonnell-Douglas" logo near the handle of the window shades, whereas regular AA MD-80s don't.

I gotta give TW props on this. Even when receiving deliveries two years after the merger, they still had the "McDonnell Douglas" logo applied where it would be visible. I can't stand reading Boeing MD-80.



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