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User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4324 times:

I got a question about El Al.

Let's say an emergency situation develops when they fly over a territory of a country that is not particularly friendly towards Israel and their airport is the only one they can use at that time. What would happen in this case? I am guessing their routes are developed in a way so that they do not cross the airspace of any of these countries. But what if?

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User currently offlineNYC2TLV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

Exactly, all flight routes go around countries that do not recognize the State of Israel.

User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

They are not allowed into the airspace of many countries full stop. Its not a voluntary thing.

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4126 times:

It would be a major international incident if an airplane in distress was not given assistance. A few years back an NW aircraft (IIRC) had to land in Tehran and nothing happened. I'm sure that if for some reason an LY jet had to make an emergency landing in Tehran they would be quietly accomodated. But then again who knows.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26860 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4110 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
A few years back an NW aircraft (IIRC) had to land in Tehran and nothing happened. I'm sure that if for some reason an LY jet had to make an emergency landing in Tehran they would be quietly accomodated. But then again who knows.

There was a thread on this a few weeks back. The flip side of the coin was an Iranian Airliner that was hijacked and forced to land in Israel.

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Hijacking Takes Iranians to Israel

JERUSALEM — In a bizarre Middle Eastern hijacking, a disgruntled flight attendant commandeered an Iranian aircraft carrying more than 170 passengers Tuesday. The jet landed at an Israeli air force base as it was about to run out of fuel.

Several members of the Israeli Knesset, or Parliament, pushed the government to hang on to the plane--and possibly the passengers--to bargain with Iran for information on the fate of Ron Arad, an Israeli military navigator whose plane was shot down by pro-Iranian guerrillas in Lebanon nine years ago.

http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-...0/news/mn-48004_1_flight-attendant


User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4001 times:



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 3):
It would be a major international incident if an airplane in distress was not given assistance. A few years back an NW aircraft (IIRC) had to land in Tehran and nothing happened. I'm sure that if for some reason an LY jet had to make an emergency landing in Tehran they would be quietly accomodated. But then again who knows.

This si exactly what I was thinking . I mean politics aside this would be the right thing to do.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
There was a thread on this a few weeks back. The flip side of the coin was an Iranian Airliner that was hijacked and forced to land in Israel.

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Hijacking Takes Iranians to Israel

JERUSALEM — In a bizarre Middle Eastern hijacking, a disgruntled flight attendant commandeered an Iranian aircraft carrying more than 170 passengers Tuesday. The jet landed at an Israeli air force base as it was about to run out of fuel.

Several members of the Israeli Knesset, or Parliament, pushed the government to hang on to the plane--and possibly the passengers--to bargain with Iran for information on the fate of Ron Arad, an Israeli military navigator whose plane was shot down by pro-Iranian guerrillas in Lebanon nine years ago.

http://articles.latimes.com/1995-09-...ndant

Very interesting , I never heard about that


User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 939 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

I don't see El-Al landing in Tehran, there is simply no reason for that.
When El-Al detours mid Asia from the north, they can land in the country they are flying above. There is no reason to divert to Iran.

When El-Al detours mid Asia from the south it is more problematic since they fly only over water.
In a "must land now" situation there won't be a problem (I believe so) to land in Egypt. I also 100% sure Saudi Arabia will let them land (with all the problems that exist) and take-off ASAP with no problems. Ethiopia is also a landing site option.
I guess Sudan, Yemen and Somalia will be "no go".

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
The flip side of the coin was an Iranian Airliner that was hijacked and forced to land in Israel.

The Iranian aircraft was not "forced" to land in Israel by the hijacker. We simply were the only country in the region that agreed to let it land in its territory. Jordan (where it flew over) and Saudi Arabia didn't even want to hear about it.
I remember an ATC recording where the pilot almost cried when he begged to land in Tel Aviv since he ran out of fuel.



Long live the B747
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26860 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3779 times:



Quoting Avi (Reply 6):
The Iranian aircraft was not "forced"



Quoting Avi (Reply 6):
since he ran out of fuel.

So he was ''forced'' to land then .  Wink The alternative was to crash !


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