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Varig 3 Daily GRU-LAX Non-stop  
User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Now RG has a total of 13 flights a week into LAX.
RG 8836 - GIG-GRU-LAX-NRT/ MD-11 4xweek
RG 8838 - GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO/ MD-11 3xweek
RG 8840 - GIG-GRU-LAX/ 767-300ER 6xweek

RG Totally dominates this market. Since UA couldn´t get the approval for this route RG decided to expand even more.
Also the new 777s are coming in the end of December for those routes. Japan and West USA is very profitable for RG. JAl is not even close to RG records.... They really had to push up to JFK since there they would have a chance.....


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User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2710 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2654 times:


Hello,

Great news! Love to see those Varig planes over L.A. skies. I have a question for you. why does Varig serve Nagoya? What is the nature of the flight? Is there a reason for Brazil-Nagoya service, or is it more of a LAX-Nagoya oriented route. I believe that Delta is the only other carrier that flies to Nagoya from L.A. JAL and ANA both fly to Tokyo and Osaka.

Best regards,
A. Diaz


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Ok, this must be an example of fuzzy math.

How on earth does 13x weekly translate into 3x daily?


User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2632 times:

JAL also serves LAX-NGO with MD-11. There are many Japanese citizens living in Brazil, so there is a lot of demand for flights between the two countries.

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 1 day ago) and read 2617 times:

Varig Brasil flies a daily MD-11 to LAX that continues to NRT or NGO. They also fly a 763 that turns around in LAX. The 763 does not operate on Mondays. That makes 13 flights a week. Hopefully the RG 777s will fly via LAX to Japan at the end of the year!!! They are not in the schedule yet. The777Man


Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7985 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

I think people forget that Sao Paolo has a very large ex-patriate Japanese community--something like over 600,000 people. That explains why both RG and JL fly between Japan and Sao Paolo frequently.

Now that SFO has the much-expanded International Terminal, don't be surprised in a few years that both JL and RG will start to route some of their Japan-Brazil flights through SFO; RG will use the G Concourse gates (since RG is a Star Alliance member) and JL will use the A Concourse gates. People sometimes forget there is a Brazilian ex-patriate community of nearly 80,000 people in the San Francisco Bay Area, and they may appreciate the ability to fly to GIG/GRU non-stop.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 18 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

RayChuang is right. The largest population of Japanese outside of Japan lives in Sao Paulo. A majority of these Japanese (mostly Brazilian citizens) are from the Nagoya area.

When I was in Nagoya about five years ago, I can remember seeing a lot of Brazilian restaurants and bars with cames like "Copacabana", "Leblon", "Cafe Brasil", etc.

I'd like to know why Korean Air flies to GRU. I'm not aware of a large Korean expat population there.





User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 17 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

In fact on Wednesdays and Saturdays RG operates three flights. Sao Paulo also has a good number of Koreans citizens.

User currently offlineNeo From Brazil, joined Jan 2001, 671 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 2571 times:

Dellatorre is right,

on Wednesday and Saturday RG operates:

GIG-GRU-LAX-NRT
GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO and
GIG-GRU-LAX

I guess that is not fuzzy math!!

Yeah the population of Korean is growing tremendously, here in Brazil. I don't remember seeing so many Koreans around like we see today.

And remember that Vasp used to fly this route also.

Best Regards

Neo


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6491 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 16 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

True, but the GIG-GRU-LAX-NGO leaves just after midnght and the GIG-GRU-LAx-NRT leaves 23 hrs later. From LAX to GRU-GIG there are usually two flights except on Mondays, never three. The777Man


Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Think of Sao Paulo as a kind of 3rd world NYC. There are lots of different nationalities around here. The most important are Italians, Spaniards, Portughese, Japanese and Palestines.

Another example? When MEA restarted operations after the civil war their first long haul was to Sao Paulo.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

I didn't know that about MEA.

Didn't Iraqi Airways also fly to either GIG or GRU at one point? I think by way of Casablanca.



User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2519 times:

I did not realize that the 763 had the range to fly LAX-Sao Paolo; are their capacity/load restriction on that flight?

Also, I had heard that UA did not get the traffic rights for LAX-Brazil service; does any US airline have such rights at the present time, or does Varig have a monopoly? I remember that Braniff flew their DC-8-62s from LAX to Lima and Santiago, and I think one or two flights weekly continued on to Brazil; being that first Eastern, then American "took over" such rights, could AA fly the route from LAX to Brazil?


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