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LAN Starting LIM-PUJ  
User currently offlineFaucett From Peru, joined Jul 2009, 61 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Hi,

LAN will be starting effective September 2 twice weekly LIM - PUJ.

LIM-PUJ 1,4 dep:12:30 arr:18:30
PUJ-LIM 4 dep: 17:30 arr:21:55
PUJ-LIM 1 dep: 13:45 arr:18:00

Seems like various aicraft are used in this operation (turnaround times.....)

With TACA on the 3 weekly LIM-SDQ, the PERU-DOMINICAN REPUBLIC direct flights went from zero to 5 weekly in 2 months.

Is there a market there?


faucett
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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2918 times:

LA has always had a fascination with PUJ though, back from the LAN Dominicana days. LA even connected PUJ with MIA once weekly. At any point, this is good news for the DR.

User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3433 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2909 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 1):
LA has always had a fascination with PUJ though, back from the LAN Dominicana days.

I've noticed this, too. I think I read in another thread that they have a rather lucrative contract with a PUJ-based tour operator, which would explain their fascination with this station.

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LA even connected PUJ with MIA once weekly.

And they still do. LA operates SCL-PUJ-MIA/MIA-PUJ-SCL on Saturdays and 4M operates EZE-PUJ-MIA/MIA-PUJ-EZE on Sundays.

Faucett, will these flights use 767 or 32S equipment?


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11456 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2848 times:
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Wow interesting also as it allows connections from Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro (TA GIG-LIM)

Another good route from LA !



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User currently offlineFaucett From Peru, joined Jul 2009, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2800 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 2):
will these flights use 767 or 32S equipment?

AFAIK, they will be using a 763.

BTW, interesting remarks regarding LAN's fascination with the DR. It even makes sense  Big grin



faucett
User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1783 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2777 times:



Quoting Faucett (Thread starter):

Is there a market there?

PUJ is 95% leisure, as its a 4-hour drive from SDQ and a 6-hour drive to STI, the two main commerce centers on the island. I see this route sticking around as much as the economy in South America and currencies remain strong relative to the dollar, and when there's weakness they will probably go 1x a week. It also depends on how well LA does joint marketing with the hotel package operators. In that respect, this is a good year to launch, as demand into PUJ from EU/USA is down signiificantly, so the all-inclusive hotels are willing to discount more heavily.

And keep in mind that like on SCL-PUJ-MIA, EZE-PUJ-MIA or SCL-CUN-MIA they use these itineraries to increase their supply (albeit one-stop) on South America-MIA, and usually on peak days.


User currently onlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33178 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

The actual route is MIA-PUJ-LIM. LAN will now offer four flights a week between Miami and Punta Cana.


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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2716 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 2):

I've noticed this, too. I think I read in another thread that they have a rather lucrative contract with a PUJ-based tour operator, which would explain their fascination with this station.



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 2):

And they still do. LA operates SCL-PUJ-MIA/MIA-PUJ-SCL on Saturdays and 4M operates EZE-PUJ-MIA/MIA-PUJ-EZE on Sundays.

Cool. I didn't know that they were in with a tour operator. I also thought PUJ was done. Looked back at LA and they sure are still there. Thanks for the info and correction.

Quoting Mah4546 (Reply 6):
The actual route is MIA-PUJ-LIM. LAN will now offer four flights a week between Miami and Punta Cana.

Makes sense. In fact, when I first read it I thought it might be connected to MIA somehow. What I love about the MIA-XXX-South America flights is that they allow for daylight flights to deep South America. Very cool.


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1783 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2705 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Reply 2):
Faucett, will these flights use 767 or 32S equipment?

It'll be a 763.


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2685 times:



Quoting Faucett (Thread starter):
LAN will be starting effective September 2 twice weekly LIM - PUJ.

I think that the route will be operated by Lan Peru.




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Quoting Faucett (Thread starter):
Is there a market there?

CM PTY-PUJ 2x daily is growing impressively since it commenced as 2x weekly two years ago.
CM has started to consolidate their services in Punta Cana and probably sustained with inbound passengers coming mostly from the rest of their South American stations.
LAN system has logically eyed this behavior and they would compete even stronger in such leisure airport.




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Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 3):
interesting also as it allows connections from Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro (TA GIG-LIM)

TA LIM-PUJ might be on the radar as well and depending on the success of TA LIM-SDQ. Who knows?  Wink
Related to the situation in Costa Rica, TA SJO-SDQ has recently modified its schedule as pure daylight in order to allow immediate ground transportation to Punta Cana. This fact was announced directly by the airline some weeks backward.

Regards.



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User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11456 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2605 times:
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Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 9):
TA LIM-PUJ might be on the radar as well and depending on the success of TA LIM-SDQ. Who knows?
Related to the situation in Costa Rica, TA SJO-SDQ has recently modified its schedule as pure daylight in order to allow immediate ground transportation to Punta Cana. This fact was announced directly by the airline some weeks backward

Would be a smart idea by LA to run a mini-hub out of LIM with some destinations in the Caribbean.



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User currently offlineSPIM2EDDN From Germany, joined Mar 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2511 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10):
Would be a smart idea by LA to run a mini-hub out of LIM with some destinations in the Caribbean.

I've heard CUN might be next. Does anybody know anything about this?


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2371 times:



Quoting LipeGIG (Reply 10):
Would be a smart idea by LA to run a mini-hub out of LIM with some destinations in the Caribbean.

Well since LIM is a hub for both LP and TA, does anyone have a list of cities served by both airlines, LP only and TA only? Would be interesting to compare LP with TA. Who is stronger if any?


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2349 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 12):

LAN Perú S.A. serves over 30 destinations out of the LIM hub and has a considerably vast domestic route network through out Perú. LP operates into 13 other cities within Perú out of the LIM hub alone. IIRC, TA only serves 20 destinations out of LIM.


User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2330 times:



Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
LAN Perú S.A. serves over 30 destinations out of the LIM hub and has a considerably vast domestic route network through out Perú. LP operates into 13 other cities within Perú out of the LIM hub alone. IIRC, TA only serves 20 destinations out of LIM.

Thanks SCL767, If I have time, I might do a list later of destinations. I've always been fascinated by Peruvian aviation.

Another question (not to highjack the thread) but is the current LP the same as the old AeroPeru that was owned or had interest from AeroMexico? AeroPeru was before my a.net days, so I'm just curious!


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1783 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2331 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 14):
Another question (not to highjack the thread) but is the current LP the same as the old AeroPeru that was owned or had interest from AeroMexico?

LP and TA Peru came in around the time AeroPeru stopped flying (1999) and filled the vacuum left along with Aerocontinente (which did not last very long itself). But they were not associated to AeroPeru which like you say was partially owned by AeroMexico and also Delta, and was eventually liquidated.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 13):
LAN Perú S.A. serves over 30 destinations out of the LIM hub and has a considerably vast domestic route network through out Perú. LP operates into 13 other cities within Perú out of the LIM hub alone. IIRC, TA only serves 20 destinations out of LIM.

Yes, LA has a bigger operation out of LIM, with about 20 international destinations and 10-15 domestic, whereas TA flies to the same number of places internationally, but only to CUZ domestically and overall with less frequencies. Since 2007 TA has been expanding out of LIM internationally at a much more aggressive rate than in years prior.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

LAN Perú S.A. destinations will soon include all of the following:

AQP, BOG, CCS, CGA, CIX, CJA, CLO, COR, CTG, CUZ, EZE, GRU, GYE, IQQ, IQT, JFK, JUL, LAX, LIM, LPB, MAD, MDE, MEX, MIA, PCL, PEM, PIU, PUJ, SCL, TBP, TCQ, TPP, TRU, TYC, UIO, and VVI.

[Edited 2009-08-10 22:16:25]

User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2320 times:



Quoting OP3000 (Reply 15):
But they were not associated to AeroPeru which like you say was partially owned by AeroMexico and also Delta, and was eventually liquidated.

No way, I had no idea DL was part of that venture. Cool.

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 16):

AQP, BOG, CCS, CGA, CIX, CJA, CLO, CTG, CUZ, EZE, GRU, GYE, IQQ, IQT, JFK, JUL, LAX, LIM, LPB, MAD, MDE, MEX, MIA, PCL, PEM, PIU, PUJ, SCL, TBP, TCQ, TPP, TRU, TYC, UIO, and VVI.

Impressive network. Makes LIM one of the premier hubs of South America.

Thanks all!  Smile


User currently offlineOP3000 From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 1783 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2316 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 17):
No way, I had no idea DL was part of that venture. Cool.

They owned about a third IIRC, although they came in after AM and at the wrong time (about a year before AeroPeru stopped flying).

Those were the days when AA also owned a small stake in AR (along with IB). CO and Gordon Bethune competed and failed (luckily for them) to get into AR and then AeroPeru, and within a couple of months ended up buying into CM (a much better decision).


User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4584 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2082 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 12):
since LIM is a hub for both LP and TA, does anyone have a list of cities served by both airlines, LP only and TA only? Would be interesting to compare LP with TA

I've just counted 20 destinations out of LIM onto TACA network:

Caracas
Bogota
Medellin
Cali [August 16th]
Quito
Guayaquil
San Jose
Guatemala City
San Salvador
Santo Domingo
Havana
Cuzco
La Paz
Santa Cruz de la Sierra
Santiago
Buenos Aires
Montevideo
Asuncion
Sao Paulo
Rio de Janeiro

Regards.



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