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Ryanair - Reverse Psychology?!  
User currently offlineCumulus From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 1402 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3810 times:

Just visited Ryanair website, and I see a advert for Eurostar.

What would they gain by that, in effect direct competition?!


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18037 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

Yet another Ryanair thread?  

Quoting Cumulus (Thread starter):
What would they gain by that, in effect direct competition?!

Advertising! On a frontpage with 15m visitors per month = ££££££££££££££££££££££.

FR doesn't fly to Brussels, Lille, Paris from London, but obviously people use Eurostar beyond Brussels, Lille and Paris. Also obviously, people use Eurostar from outside the London/southeast areas. I would be quite interested to know statistics regarding how many use the Eurostar from, say, London to destinations further down France, to Italy, etc, etc.

[Edited 2009-08-10 07:07:35]


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User currently offlineWolflair From Mexico, joined Sep 2007, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3414 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 1):
FR doesn't fly to Brussels, Lille, Paris from London, but obviously people use Eurostar beyond Brussels, Lille and Paris. Also obviously, people use Eurostar from outside the London/southeast areas. I would be quite interested to know statistics regarding how many use the Eurostar from, say, London to destinations further down France, to Italy, etc, etc.

The Eurostar only runs to Paris and Brussels (with a number of intermediary stops). People do not use the Eurostar to travel beyond those points, although they "may" purchase a single ticket allowing them to change trains at Paris or Brussels (although I am not sure if that is being offered). Having said that, I believe travellers in Paris would be required to even travel across the city just to get to another train station, depending on their final destination (same applies for travellers arriving to London).


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User currently offlineElbowRoom From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3373 times:



Quoting Wolflair (Reply 2):
I believe travellers in Paris would be required to even travel across the city just to get to another train station, depending on their final destination (same applies for travellers arriving to London

Since Eurostar switched from Waterloo to St Pancras station, passengers arriving in London can transfer to train services to Leeds, York, Nottingham, Sheffield and other destinations within roughly 2 hours north of London.

ER

User currently offlineDutchflyboi From Netherlands, joined Apr 2008, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

The use Google Ads on their website. It's a good source of income for them, otherwise they would not do it. There are even British Airways flights showing on the site.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18037 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3253 times:



Quoting Wolflair (Reply 2):
The Eurostar only runs to Paris and Brussels (with a number of intermediary stops). People do not use the Eurostar to travel beyond those points,

Absolutely right. For some reason I just forgot to put that onward trains, or to London from elsewhere in the UK, aren't on Eurostar.


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User currently offlineFerroviarius From Norway, joined Mar 2007, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3065 times:



Quoting Wolflair (Reply 2):
The Eurostar only runs to Paris and Brussels (with a number of intermediary stops).

Good afternoon,

that is not quite correct. There are some Eurostar trains running to Bourg St.Maurice in the French Alps and others have been operated as far as the Mediterranean. At at time, it was quite convenient to travel from Oslo to the French Riviera by taking BA OSL-LHR and then the Eurostar for the rest of the voyage.
The french trade unions, however, do not seem to be over-enthusiastic about the idea of Eurostar trains beyond Paris. With some - partly reasonable - arguments they outline that privates should keep out of the transportation sector, the postal sector, the communication sector a.s.o.

Best,
Ferroviarius

User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1706 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3065 times:

I nearly posted the other day because i logged onto the FR website and i noticed a Jet2 advert. Very odd!


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User currently offlineExFATboy From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2974 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3065 times:



Quoting Dutchflyboi (Reply 4):
The use Google Ads on their website. It's a good source of income for them, otherwise they would not do it. There are even British Airways flights showing on the site.

The Google Ads software is designed to display ads related to the services offered by the site you're looking at...for example, if you look at one of my favourite travel blogs, "Frugal Travel Guy", the Google Ads are all for travel-related sites.

Google Ads seems to also go one step further in that, if you look at a site where the content may be general but the site also has an ad on it for, say, their own t-shirts, the Google Ads will display ads for other t-shirt sellers.

So it's not surprising that other travel providers' ads are popping up on Ryanair's site - I'd presume Ryanair has looked into it and determined that the income from Google Ads offsets any loss of business from the occasional loss of a customer from one of the ads.

User currently offlineMutu From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

Well the irony isnt lost that BA has a 10% stake in the management company that runs the UK end of passenger operations on Eurostar!

So BA flights (and BA trains) on FR website....

User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2692 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1214 times:



Quoting Wolflair (Reply 2):
The Eurostar only runs to Paris and Brussels (with a number of intermediary stops). People do not use the Eurostar to travel beyond those points, although they "may" purchase a single ticket allowing them to change trains at Paris or Brussels (although I am not sure if that is being offered). Having said that, I believe travellers in Paris would be required to even travel across the city just to get to another train station, depending on their final destination (same applies for travellers arriving to London).

In Belgium it's free- you buy a ticket to "Brussels / Any Belgian Station". I went to visit a girlfriend in Antwerp many times by doing it this way.

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 5571 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days ago) and read 1147 times:



Quoting ElbowRoom (Reply 3):
Since Eurostar switched from Waterloo to St Pancras station, passengers arriving in London can transfer to train services to Leeds, York, Nottingham, Sheffield and other destinations within roughly 2 hours north of London.

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Here is an extract from a Eurostar Press Release dated 5 August:

"Eurostar, the provider of high-speed, carbon neutral rail journeys between the UK and the Continent, today announced that it now offers fares from more than 200 towns and cities across Britain for high-speed rail travel to the continent.

"Eurostar outlined its plans the day after the Government announced an investment programme in high-speed rail to help meet its targets to cut carbon emissions.

"South West Trains today becomes the latest train operator with which Eurostar is to introduce a joint ticketing deal, with fares from just £63 return and no airline-style extra charges for check-in, baggage or seat reservations.

"Examples of city centre to city centre journey times include Basingstoke to Paris in 4h12, Southampton to Brussels in 4h33, and Woking to Paris in 3h58.

"Partnerships with further train operators are expected to take the number of stations offering connecting high-speed fares to more than 300 later this summer.

"Travellers from as far afield as Aberdeen, Bangor and Penzance can now buy connecting fares for journeys through to Paris, Brussels and beyond. Eurostar has seen particularly significant growth in travellers from the Midlands, Yorkshire and the North East since it moved from Waterloo to St Pancras International in November 2007."

Note the phrase "to Paris, Brussels and beyond" in the last paragraph.

The rest is at:

http://www.eurostar.com/UK/uk/leisur..._and_cities_to_mainland_europe.jsp

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