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Emirates 388 DXB-LHR Running Very Late  
User currently offlineBeakerLTN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 297 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12438 times:

Just noticed on flightstats that EK1 (DXB-LHR) is posting an increased flight time of about an hour into Heathrow, but the return flight is expected to be a whopping 8hrs late today (2:15pm delayed to 10:15pm)

Anyone know if this is just a schedule change not updated in flightstats, or whether it's actually some maintenance?


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User currently offlineKubik From Croatia, joined Apr 2007, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 12286 times:

It was exactly the same a few days ago. The departure out of Heathrow was delayed at about 6 hours.

Kubik


User currently offlineFlyEmirates From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11669 times:

A380 tech as usual

777 sent instead

1 0001 DXB 12-AUG-2009 1644 LHR 12-AUG-2009 2104
Layover at LHR for 22: 21hrs
2 0004 LHR 13-AUG-2009 2040 DXB 14-AUG-2009 0630


HAM flight redirected

1 0059 DXB 11-AUG-2009 0903 HAM 11-AUG-2009 1333
Layover at HAM for 24: 37hrs
2 0060 HAM 12-AUG-2009 1549 LHR 12-AUG-2009 1618
3 0060 LHR 12-AUG-2009 1735 DXB 13-AUG-2009 0310


User currently offlineEmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 11563 times:



Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 2):
A380 tech as usual

You imply that the A380 always goes tech!! source please.



EK A380 Private suite - Here I come!!
User currently offlineEbbUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11408 times:



Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 2):
A380 tech as usual

Maybe those engines? Or water from the showers leaking into the cockpit?
 Big grin


User currently offlineSpr773 From India, joined Jun 2008, 163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10650 times:



Quoting EbbUK (Reply 4):

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

I can imagine that the soapy water from the shower leaking on the lower floor of the A380 waking some passenger with a start ....
and then that water continuing its way down to the cargo hold and the ultimately out of the airframe.....
Finally the brilliant white EK jet ends up with lots of stains on its underbody.... rotfl 


User currently offlineAffirmative From France, joined Jul 2009, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

I heard from sources inside EK that their having quite a lot of problems with their A380. Anyone know more about this? Since SQ seem to not being able to get enough of it it's somewhat strange that EK is having all this problems. Maybe it is those GP7200 that's bringing the issues..?


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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27306 posts, RR: 60
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7385 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 6):
Since SQ seem to not being able to get enough of it it's somewhat strange that EK is having all this problems

Was wondering that myself. I guess until we hear what the tech issues are we will be none the wiser.


User currently offlineAffirmative From France, joined Jul 2009, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7136 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Was wondering that myself. I guess until we hear what the tech issues are we will be none the wiser.

My source, who heard it from a co-worker said that the EK 380 is generating an abnormal number of ACARS MX messages (like the ones AF447 sent before it's demise). And since all need to be checked when on the ground it's taking a lot of time at the turnarounds. F.ex he said that the normal number is around 8-10 concerning lav and other non-essential stuff, the A380 had 52 on a particular flight concerning a lot of different critical systems onboard (none mentioned in particular).. Rumors says that it's growing more and more unpopular with the EK C/C.. Not a good thing since they have quite a number of them on order still..

//A-firm



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User currently offlineEbbUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6961 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 8):

My source, who heard it from a co-worker said that the EK 380 is generating an abnormal number of ACARS MX messages (like the ones AF447 sent before it's demise). And since all need to be checked when on the ground it's taking a lot of time at the turnarounds. F.ex he said that the normal number is around 8-10 concerning lav and other non-essential stuff, the A380 had 52 on a particular flight concerning a lot of different critical systems onboard (none mentioned in particular).. Rumors says that it's growing more and more unpopular with the EK C/C.. Not a good thing since they have quite a number of them on order still..

is this all the 380s in service with EK or one in particular? Would you affirm that with your source and feedback to us here? I am curious to know.


User currently offlineAerosol From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6899 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 8):
My source, who heard it from a co-worker said that the EK 380 is generating an abnormal number of ACARS MX messages (like the ones AF447 sent before it's demise). And since all need to be checked when on the ground it's taking a lot of time at the turnarounds. F.ex he said that the normal number is around 8-10 concerning lav and other non-essential stuff, the A380 had 52 on a particular flight concerning a lot of different critical systems onboard (none mentioned in particular).. Rumors says that it's growing more and more unpopular with the EK C/C.. Not a good thing since they have quite a number of them on order still..

The tonality of your message seems a bit strage to me:

- reference of AF447
- crtitical systems
- more and more unpopular

Are you a spin doctor?  Wink


User currently offlineMusapapaya From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1098 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6870 times:

Well, if SQ and QF are not having similar problems, then we need to track down whats different between EK's bird, and others.

The engine is different, and EK is the only A380 having on board shower. It could also be down to maintenance issues as EK mainly does their own maintenance?

Dont blame the bird yet as its just EK having these problems apparently.

Regards
musapapaya



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User currently offlineWouwout From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6858 times:



Quoting Aerosol (Reply 10):
The tonality of your message seems a bit strage to me:

- reference of AF447
- crtitical systems
- more and more unpopular

Are you a spin doctor? Wink

100% spin! Lots of it happening at this forum, unfortunately.


User currently offline757ops From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6760 times:

SQ cancel many flights out of LHR with their A380's due to MX. Nose geer steering or hydraulic problems normally

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6843 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6709 times:

Looking at acars, EDB and EDD haven't been picked up today or yesterday (last flights into DXB from YYZ and LHR respectively) and 'A, 'C and 'E are in service. Otherwise there don't seem to be any especially large delays in the daily schedule for any of the aircraft over the past month.

Quoting 757ops (Reply 13):
SQ cancel many flights out of LHR

Cancel or delay? Looking at SQ317 and SQ321 back to April there are no missing days and no obviously large delays (within the limits and reliability of acars logs)



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User currently offlineAffirmative From France, joined Jul 2009, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6709 times:



Quoting EbbUK (Reply 9):
is this all the 380s in service with EK or one in particular? Would you affirm that with your source and feedback to us here? I am curious to know.

I'm going to try to get some more info next time I talk to him. He's not involved in the MX or anything so all the info is secondary..

Quoting Aerosol (Reply 10):
The tonality of your message seems a bit strage to me:

- reference of AF447
- crtitical systems
- more and more unpopular

Are you a spin doctor?

Haha.. Well, in a way everyone that posts something like this could be called that. But I'm just relaying the info I have from a person on the inside. Wether it's correct or not I don't know and obviously have no way to confirm. But even if there's just a tiny piece of info that could be relevant or interesting I feel I should share it.. To make things really clear, I love the A380 and I feel that this could be someone with an opposing feeling towards the plane trying to give it a bad rep.. If it is, or not, I guess there's not an easy way to find out..

The reference to AF447 was for people that don't know what an ACARS MX message is. Not all people know and I'm not assuming that everyone knows..

I know, and this is a fact, that the A380 is not the favorite plane among C/C within EK.. The real reason behind it I don't know. Many C/C prefer the other planes in the fleet and mainly the B777 series.. Again, why I don't know..

And again, to clarify, I'm leaning more towards being an A fan.. But I try to be as unbiased as I can. I'm just curious why EK is having trouble while SQ is praising the bird and want A to fasttrack deliveries...

//A-Firm



I love the smell of Jet-A1 in the morning...
User currently offlineManfredj From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6568 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 15):
To make things really clear, I love the A380 and I feel that this could be someone with an opposing feeling towards the plane trying to give it a bad rep.. If it is, or not, I guess there's not an easy way to find out..

If the person that has opposing views actually works at Emirates, that could be a problem as the feeling could be mutual among all employees....not good for the fate of the aircraft.



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User currently offlineAstuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 10234 posts, RR: 97
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6445 times:
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Quoting Affirmative (Reply 15):
I know, and this is a fact, that the A380 is not the favorite plane among C/C within EK..

Although its possible of course that this isn't a fault with the aircraft per se, but the T's and C's the cabin crew operate under.

Quoting Affirmative (Reply 8):
F.ex he said that the normal number is around 8-10 concerning lav and other non-essential stuff, the A380 had 52 on a particular flight concerning a lot of different critical systems onboard (none mentioned in particular)..

52 ACARS messages relating to different "critical" systems and we don't know about it?
Can't see it somehow.
Of course, as aircraft progressively become more "interactive", by definition they'll send more messages....

Rgds


User currently offlineAirNz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6419 times:



Quoting 757ops (Reply 13):
SQ cancel many flights out of LHR with their A380's due to MX.

How many, and how often exactly?


User currently offlineSlinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6390 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 15):
I know, and this is a fact, that the A380 is not the favorite plane among C/C within EK.. The real reason behind it I don't know. Many C/C prefer the other planes in the fleet and mainly the B777 series.. Again, why I don't know..

I've talked with cabin crew on a few A380 flights - their issue is not with the plane per se but with the way EK have configured it, particularly upstairs where the kitchen is behind the loos behind the bar for J pax. It's inconvenient for them, food travels a long way to the front of the J cabin and CC get complaints.


User currently offlineSInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6106 times:



Quoting 757ops (Reply 13):
SQ cancel many flights out of LHR with their A380's due to MX. Nose geer steering or hydraulic problems normally

"many" ?

That statement is not supported by the facts.

Link



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User currently offlineAffirmative From France, joined Jul 2009, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5722 times:



Quoting Astuteman (Reply 17):
Although its possible of course that this isn't a fault with the aircraft per se, but the T's and C's the cabin crew operate under.

I did think about this aswell, but the below explanation seems more plausible. But with so few planes in the fleet so far I guess it's a hassle for the C/C aswell..

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 17):
52 ACARS messages relating to different "critical" systems and we don't know about it?
Can't see it somehow.

I was thinking this aswell.. It seems quite unlikely that this would have slipped the net of the airlines.net forum.. But on the other hand this might be one thing both EK and Airbus would really like to keep under covers.

Quoting Slinky09 (Reply 19):
I've talked with cabin crew on a few A380 flights - their issue is not with the plane per se but with the way EK have configured it, particularly upstairs where the kitchen is behind the loos behind the bar for J pax. It's inconvenient for them, food travels a long way to the front of the J cabin and CC get complaints.

So, I guess that's one reason then...



I love the smell of Jet-A1 in the morning...
User currently offlineEbbUK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5542 times:



Quoting Affirmative (Reply 15):
Quoting EbbUK (Reply 9):
is this all the 380s in service with EK or one in particular? Would you affirm that with your source and feedback to us here? I am curious to know.

I'm going to try to get some more info next time I talk to him. He's not involved in the MX or anything so all the info is secondary..

i.e idle chatter or, said in another way, gossip. Until a more credible source is found, I bid this topic adieu


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