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Boeing 707 Nose Sections Preserved -Where Are They  
User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1984 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5250 times:

I was wondering how many Boeing 707/720 nose sections (with or without the forward fuselage) have been preserved?

I just learned that the simulator at the New England Air Museum was once Pan American's N714PA.

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Now I find out that there is a forward fuselage section at the Presidents Park in Williamsburg, VA, done up to represent one of the Presidential 707s. Does anyone know the identity of this airframe?

The NAS Wildwood museum near Cape May, NJ, just acquired a TWA Boeing 727 simulator. Now I am wondering whether this was once an actual aircraft. Many pictures of partially scrapped airliners here on A.Net show hulks with the cockpit section missing - are some of these in museums?


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User currently offlineSwiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5239 times:

There's a Sabena one in Brussels at an aviation museum

User currently offlineRktsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5083 times:

The Aeronautics Department at the University of Sydney has one. Ex-QF or RAAF? It's been turned into a simulator.

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5054 times:
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I believe there was a 707 nose section at BFI in the backlot behind the big hanger there for a long time. Could've sworn it was a 707, an early version

[Edited 2009-08-16 18:50:41]


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User currently offlineN7190jr From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4995 times:

There's a 707 nose section in the cradle of aviation museum in garden city, long island, ny. It's a former el al airframe.

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User currently onlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4974 times:

Oh man....this brings back memories....I got quite a few opps to enter B707 cockpits....

Anyone know what the four large buttons (numbered 1 to 4) were for...? Obviously something to do with the engines, but exactly what?


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1744 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4959 times:
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I believe this was never a simulator; it's the actual nose section of the a/c. Given the time of the scrapping (1982, IIRC) and when I believe the air museum got this, it's no surprise given the condition it is in. The seats are falling apart, the metal bars between the cockpit glass is rusting... 707s were coming out of service when it was scrapped too.

The exterior of the nose section is all genuine riveted panels with peeling Pan Am paint, too.



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User currently offlineN49WA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4919 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
Anyone know what the four large buttons (numbered 1 to 4) were for...? Obviously something to do with the engines, but exactly what?

Engine fire control switches. If an engine fire occurred, the appropriate button would light up, bells would ring and the crew would push/pull (?) the 1,2,3 or 4 button to cutoff fuel and discharge the extinguishers. IIRC, these were relocated to the center pedestal in later models due to the rarity of them being needed for rapid access.

You old jetjocks feel free to correct me if I'm wrong  

[Edited 2009-08-16 20:05:53]

User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2715 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

If I remember correctly, the cockpit section of the IAT Cargo B707 (cn 19664/643), which crashlanded at Oostende, Belgium, in 1998, was separated in order to use this section. Unfortunately I don't know where they brought it.

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9386 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4797 times:

Swiss freight forwarder Panalpina has (or may be had?) a 727 nose cone mounted on the wall of their MIA terminal office lobby. Nice for a private company to invest in this kind of "art".


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User currently offlineFlywrite From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4715 times:
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From latest Out of Production List - Western Jet Airliners book, the following 707/720 nose sections are preserved:

N7515A 707-123 c/n 17642/40 at Oberschleissheim Museum, Munich, Germany
N3961A 707-123 c/n 17647/52 at Sinsheim Museum, Germany
OO-SJA 707-329 c/n 17623/78 at Musee Royal De L'Armee, Brussels, Belgium
G-APFG 707-436 c/n 17708/128 at Pershore, UK
F-BHSL 707-328 c/n 17919/153 at Paris Le Bourget Museum, France
EL-AJC 707-430 c/n 17721/162 at Germany?
4X-ATA 707-458 c/n 18070/205 at Cradle of Aviation Museum, Garden City NY
N435MA 707-321 c/n 18085/217 at Cavan & Leitrim Museum, Dromod, Ireland
D2-TOU 707-351C c/n 18964/453 at RAF Museum, Hendon, London, UK
N418PA 707-321B c/n 18960/484 at Miami Tamiami, FL
N6727 707-131B c/n 19217/564 at Mexico?

N64696 720-22 c/n 18073/253 at Miami, FL?
N7381 720-060B c/n 18977/442 at El Mirage, AZ


User currently onlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4589 times:



Quoting N49WA (Reply 7):
Engine fire control switches. If an engine fire occurred, the appropriate button would light up, bells would ring and the crew would push/pull (?) the 1,2,3 or 4 button to cutoff fuel and discharge the extinguishers. IIRC, these were relocated to the center pedestal in later models due to the rarity of them being needed for rapid access.

You old jetjocks feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

Thanks....I vaguely recall hearing something like that when I was small.....never got a chance to verify it with anyone....


User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6104 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4581 times:
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Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 5):
Anyone know what the four large buttons (numbered 1 to 4) were for...? Obviously something to do with the engines, but exactly what?



Quoting N49WA (Reply 7):
the appropriate button would light up, bells would ring and the crew would push/pull (?)

You would pull. At least that is what you did in the 707 simulator I was in once.

There is a TWA 707 Simulator at Central Missouri State University in Warrensburg, MO. I don't know if it was built as a simulator or was part of an actual aircraft at one time.



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