Comorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4721 posts, RR: 17 Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4801 times:
SInce it was on its way to DEL, it must have been a rejected take-off?
Was this an aborted takeoff ? What is the condition of the aircraft ? Which direction was it taking off and where did they finally stop ?
From the picture (2nd link above) it seems that there is either a hill ???? or a bunch of trees behind in the distance, haven't flown into DAC for a while, where is that ?
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6189 posts, RR: 25 Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4734 times:
Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 2): Was this an aborted takeoff ? What is the condition of the aircraft ?
The second describes it as a successful rejected takeoff. The aircraft damage appears minimal, no gear damage or other issues apparent.
It only went off the end a short distance - the photo clearly shows the mains on the hard surface.
The other clue is that the plane was moved and the runway cleared within two hours.
The photo, sun position and a check of Google Earth indicate this probably occured trying to takeoff on Rwy 14, coming to a stop just past the Rwy 32 threshold.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6101 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4719 times:
Quoting FlySSC (Reply 4): "121 passengers and a Crew of 10" ? on a B737 ?
This struck me as kind of odd, but flying domestically on 737's in both India and China, I've noticed huge crews...I guess if you have a billion + people...
BOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4593 times:
Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 3):
The photo, sun position and a check of Google Earth indicate this probably occured trying to takeoff on Rwy 14, coming to a stop just past the Rwy 32 threshold.
I've driven (cars, not planes) in that exact area several times, and also walked around the perimeter of both Rwy 14 and 32 thresholds, also numerous flights in/out of DAC. You may be correct, and I would like to point out that picture doesn't seem to be (on my monitor) showing any distinct shadows..
It's just that the 32 Threshold is surrounded at a distance by a utility road, and also heavy local residential area (Nikunja), so, where is that little hill/tree line visible in the photo ?
Biman From Bangladesh, joined Sep 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4565 times:
Here are some pictures of the Jet Airways that regularly operates in and out of Dhaka judging by my own observation on several consecutive days over the last ten days in July 2009. I would not be surprised if it is the same aircraft shown on the newspaper photo.
Biman From Bangladesh, joined Sep 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4529 times:
Quoting Biman (Reply 7): It's just that the 32 Threshold is surrounded at a distance by a utility road, and also heavy local residential area (Nikunja), so, where is that little hill/tree line visible in the photo ?
Shamudra, I don't think those are hills .. but trees by the airport road heading south just as it bends west towards Nikunja ... some place south of the Balaka building and north of the railway crossing ... If the same thing happened while trying to take off from 32, I imagine it would go right through the perimeter wall and into the ditch ..
Any further news as to what really happened? Weather conditions don't suggest it was rain but rather something wrong with the aircraft itself ..
SQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1594 posts, RR: 21 Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4438 times:
Quoting SW733 (Reply 5): This struck me as kind of odd, but flying domestically on 737's in both India and China, I've noticed huge crews...I guess if you have a billion + people...
Yeah but there's also that thing called efficiency! And last I heard Jet wasn't doing too hot financially either...
Quoting Ojas (Reply 9): Flight deck crew - 2, Cabin crew - 8 I believe. This is a full service flight with J and Y.
Full service or not 8 cabin crew for a 737 is way overkill, don't you think? I could see 5 max, with 2 working Business and 3 in Economy. I mean do they have to block a couple of Y seats for crew, where do they fit all those jump seats in the tiny galleys of the 737! Just for reference, at EK we have 8 crew for the entire Economy cabin for a 773, which on some configurations has more than double the amount if seats on this aircraft. And these aircraft do fly short hauls around the Middle East with full service as well!
BOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4339 times:
Quoting Biman (Reply 8): some place south of the Balaka building and north of the railway crossing ... If the same thing happened while trying to take off from 32, I imagine it would go right through the perimeter wall and into the ditch ..
No, this happened prior to takeoff, at the threshold of Rwy 14, as per :
Quote: Zia International Airport director Wing Commander Saeedul Hasan Khan told bdnews24.com that the Jet Airways flight 271, scheduled for a 10.43am take-off, came out of Hangar Bay 9 and during a turn to line-up on Runway 14 veered across a grass verge.
Look at the following picture, a BDNEWS photo , the aircraft is just off the runway threshold of 14, not as per RFields5421, I think:
Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 3): The photo, sun position and a check of Google Earth indicate this probably occured trying to takeoff on Rwy 14, coming to a stop just past the Rwy 32 threshold.
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6189 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3868 times:
Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 11): the aircraft is just off the runway threshold of 14
Well it was a guess.
The barely used road in the foreground looked a lot more like the south end of the airport than the north end from the photo. But the focal length of the lens used may well have distored the distance / relationship between the road and the aircraft.
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31228 posts, RR: 58 Reply 14, posted (3 years 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3753 times:
Quoting Biman (Reply 8): Any further news as to what really happened? Weather conditions don't suggest it was rain but rather something wrong with the aircraft itself ..
In case it was on the T/O roll commence,could it be One Engine stalling,causing a swing on Thrust levers being advanced.
Something is not clear here though.
regds
MEL.
RFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6189 posts, RR: 25 Reply 15, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3579 times:
Quoting BOACVC10 (Reply 11): during a turn to line-up on Runway 14 veered across a grass verge.
BOACVC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 520 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3384 times:
Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 16): looks like someone was taxying too fast.
Does anyone have the METAR and NOTAM for DAC on that date? Was there water on the taxiway, threshold area or was it foggy / humid and they missed the center line ?
Biman From Bangladesh, joined Sep 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3152 times:
Quoting Cricket (Reply 12): Look at the following picture, a BDNEWS photo , the aircraft is just off the runway threshold of 14,
Ah .. that's where I shoot most of my DAC photos from ... it seems like the pilots put too much thrust while trying to get on the active ... and weren't able to turn in time and ended up in the unpaved area ...
HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31228 posts, RR: 58 Reply 19, posted (3 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3022 times:
Quoting Biman (Reply 18): ... it seems like the pilots put too much thrust while trying to get on the active ... and weren't able to turn in time and ended up in the unpaved area
Looks most likely if it was in that phase.
regds
MEL.
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