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YVR Connected To Downtown Via SkyTrain  
User currently offlinePlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 676 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11462 times:

Yesterday, the latest addition to Vancouver's SkyTrain rapid transit system was opened. The Canada Line, built in anticipation of the 2010 Olympics, directly connects YVR (as well as downtown Richmond) to downtown Vancouver. The new train line, which cost $2.0 billion to build, cuts the public transit trip time to merely 25 minutes between YVR and the downtown waterfront. The trains have been specially designed to accommodate passengers traveling with luggage. The one-way fare per passenger is currently $3.75, but a surcharge (about $3) will be added next year for the last section to/from the airport. The project was well ahead of schedule and opened 3.5 months before the originally planned date.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Van...ree+ride+Monday/1899494/story.html


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User currently offlineEVA777SEA From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11442 times:

$6.75 for ten miles?! That's very steep.

User currently offlinePlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11425 times:



Quoting PlaneInsomniac (Thread starter):
$6.75 for ten miles?! That's very steep.

It certainly beats the current options both with respect to price and trip time.



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User currently offlineDlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11367 times:
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For once government and taxes have been put to good use. I took it into work today, and it's going to save me about an hour's worth of travel time each day. Can't tell you how long I've been waiting for this...

The previous options for getting downtown from YVR involved either a cab, someone picking you up, airport shuttle bus (to some hotels only), or a convoluted connection of local buses, all of which either cost more or took longer (or both). The $6.75 is yes a bit steep but is still good value compared to what the options were before.

It was quite embarrassing pretending to be a major world city/airport without any direct public transit access to the airport. The best part is that not only did it finish three months early, but on budget too.

Dana


User currently offlineJoePatroni From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11329 times:



Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 1):
$6.75 for ten miles?! That's very steep.

BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) is now $7.95 from SFO to Downtown San Francisco which is only about 8 miles. Talk about steep!

This sounds like a pretty good deal and a much better option than the bus!

JP



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User currently offlineGSP psgr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11319 times:

Now, if only Montreal could get its act together and follow suit.....

User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1379 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11297 times:



Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 5):
Now, if only Montreal could get its act together and follow suit.....

And YYZ

Cal  airplane 



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11254 times:



Quoting JoePatroni (Reply 4):
BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) is now $7.95 from SFO to Downtown San Francisco which is only about 8 miles. Talk about steep!

Especially compared to CAD6.75, which is USD 6.10. Not bad in my opinion.



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User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11193 times:

Alright, trains only, no busses-

EWR- $14
SFO- $7.95
JFK- $7
ORD- $2.25
PDX- $2.25
YVR- CAD$6.75

Additions? Corrections? Anyone know if there will be a surcharge for the service to SEA when that opens up?



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User currently offlineEgcarter From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11166 times:

SEA - $2.75
EWR - $7.75 (to downtown Newark...remember that's a city destination, too...)


User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4670 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11124 times:

AMS - EUR3.80 - USD5.37
FRA - EUR11.50 - USD16.25 (ICE, normal trains will be cheaper)
MUC - EUR9.20 - USD13 (single ticket for the full network for one day is EUR10)
CPH - DKK31.50 - USD5.98

All are from the airport to the city main station, USD are for current exhangerates.



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User currently offlineKristiaanD From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11121 times:
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To compare with a other country:

AMS - To Amsterdam Central station, roughly 10 miles, $9 by train (Return ticket).

[Edited 2009-08-18 14:34:21]


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2692 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11079 times:

Congrats to Vancouver!

MDW $2.25 (11 miles to downtown)
ORD $2.25 (18 miles to downtown)

Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 3):
It was quite embarrassing pretending to be a major world city/airport without any direct public transit access to the airport.

Even NYC didn't have public transit to EWR and JFK until relatively recently and the connection isn't direct, and LGA still only has a bus connection!


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11063 times:

MSP is 1.75 and 2.25 during rush hour.


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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1625 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11052 times:



Quoting FighterPilot (Reply 6):
Quoting GSP psgr (Reply 5):
Now, if only Montreal could get its act together and follow suit.....


And YYZ

...and YYC. Although we aren't considered a "world city", it will be great to finally have our Light Rail Transit going to the airport.

Rik



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User currently offlineEVA777SEA From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11048 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 7):
Especially compared to CAD6.75, which is USD 6.10. Not bad in my opinion.

Yes but the Canada line is a rapid transit line and not an express service to the airport like the JFK or EWR skytrains. It is rediculous to have to pay 6.75 to go 10 miles on a RAPID TRANSIT line, or at least here in North America.


User currently offlineAstral From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11042 times:

I lived in Richmond for 30 years, and this is one of the best so far. I remembered the discussions, plans and so on and so on for such a rapid transit line for almost 25 years. If it is not the Winter Olympic coming in 2010, it would not happen at all.
Richmond is one of the best city in Lower Mainland to live, and has the most efficient city government. We now have the Olympic Speed Skating Oval build at a very low cost to us in Richmond, and will be the community function point in the years ahead. With the RAV line in place, plus the best highway connection points south of Fraser River, easy access to the US boarder, Richmond can be one of the best example of a functional city planning for us in Canada.
One of the sad part with the opening of the RAV line is that the YVR Airporter bus will stop operations in 30 days. At CA$14.00 one way, it just can't compete with the taxi (those with baggage, and need door-to-door service) and the RAV line (those travel light). The comforting part is that those bus drivers can still find jobs, especially as the Olympic is coming, the demand of coaches would jump at an alarming rate.
I took the ride this morning to work, and it sure is a wonderful trip. If you ever come to YVR, make sure you take a ride too.
By the way, Vancouver is the first Canadian city to have a rapid transit line service between downtown and airport, not bad at all !!


User currently offlineIcna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11035 times:

CDG 8.50€, 40min to Gare du Nord.
LYS is building theirs... 25 min to Part Dieu station, sounds great, but will be 12€ and way too far to be confortably reachable by foot with luggages from the terminals. That's sad, thay had a great opportunity.


User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 848 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11009 times:

Complain all you want about the price. Have any of you taken the Bus "the Airporter" from YVR to the Hotels downtown? The Bus goes directly to 6 different stops in downtown YVR for hotel guest. But it still has to deal with all the traffic and lights at intersections, pedestrians and such. All that stoping and going gets tiring after a while, and the last time I took it, it was $22cad r/t. This person has been to YVR 12 times and I will say that I am thrilled to take the SKYtrain and pay the rate.
JD CRPXE



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10983 times:



Quoting Dlowwa (Reply 3):
The best part is that not only did it finish three months early, but on budget too.

Hopefully the U.K. could borrow some of your planners and projects managers to get things moving on projects in our counrtry (e.g. Heathrow East is already 2 years late and corss rail was originally scoped in the 1970s.....)

For those of you concerned about the price - look at the cost of the Heathrow Express £12.50 or £18 last time I travelled on it
 Wow!


User currently offlinePlaneInsomniac From Canada, joined Nov 2007, 676 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10979 times:



Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 18):
Have any of you taken the Bus "the Airporter" from YVR to the Hotels downtown? The Bus goes directly to 6 different stops in downtown YVR for hotel guest. But it still has to deal with all the traffic and lights at intersections, pedestrians and such.

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Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 15):
Yes but the Canada line is a rapid transit line and not an express service

Don't forget, despite being "only" labeled a rapid transit system, the Canada Line represents a major construction project. It runs completely underground in and around downtown, with underground stations and all. Part of that underground section runs below an ocean bay. Beyond that area, it runs on an elevated track in order to be independent from normal traffic (hence the name SkyTrain). Major bridge work across the river also had to be done. The SkyTrain is much faster than other options, in particular if there is any street traffic to speak of. I think the fare, whether it is $3.75 or $6.something, is very well justified, and I believe most people agree. It certainly is not only faster, but also a lot cheaper than most alternatives in Vancouver, and also cheaper than public transit to airports in many other cities around the globe.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24917 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10824 times:



Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 1):
$6.75 for ten miles?! That's very steep.



Quoting JRadier (Reply 10):
AMS - EUR3.80 - USD5.37
FRA - EUR11.50 - USD16.25 (ICE, normal trains will be cheaper)
MUC - EUR9.20 - USD13 (single ticket for the full network for one day is EUR10)
CPH - DKK31.50 - USD5.98

All are from the airport to the city main station, USD are for current exhangerates.

GVA - FREE. All passengers arriving GVA airport are entitled to a free ticket on either the train (6 minutes to the city center) or local buses (about 15 to 20 minutes). You have to obtain a ticket from machines in the baggage claim area, and if you encounter a ticket inspector on the train/bus you have to present the free ticket with your boarding pass for a flight arriving GVA the same day. The free ticket is valid to any destination in the area covered by the integrated GVA train/bus/tram network and is good for 80 minutes after issuance.

Visitors staying in GVA hotels also get a free public transit ticket valid for unlimited travel for the duration of their hotel stay, and it's also good for the return trip to the airport.


User currently offlineYXXMIKE From Canada, joined Apr 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10810 times:

Was delighted to see this finally working. I live on main street and can hop on my bike and cycle to the station at cambie & 12th or walk if i feel so inclined. Vancouver really did need this connection as the physical make up of Vancouver is quite diverse and hard to plan around (lots of water etc). It did cost quite a bit of money but I believe over a 10 year period will become a huge benefit to the city!

Also the YVR stop is incredible, I can't using an airport train station that within a 30 second escalator ride brings you right to the terminal! As much as I hate the large AIF's at YVR it is an amazing airport to have.

I can't want to see a waterfront stadium for the the whitecaps, then I go directly from the working at YVR to a footie match in less than 30 minutes!!!


User currently offlineAussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10775 times:

SYD is currently AUD$15.00 o/way (12 USD or 9 EUR) and its not even a designated airport train (12min journey), its crampt with other general commuters on the same line, and there is no facility for stored luggage on the train. So you guys all think you have a hard time with overpriced trains spare a thought for us Sydneysiders.

User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3402 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 10755 times:



Quoting United787 (Reply 12):
Even NYC didn't have public transit to EWR and JFK until relatively recently and the connection isn't direct, and LGA still only has a bus connection!

And the JFK train is still an embarrassment. Can you imagine how many thousand people a day have their first impression of the US at the Jamaica Center E station? To anyone who has never been through there- try to keep it that way.

Quoting EVA777SEA (Reply 15):
Yes but the Canada line is a rapid transit line and not an express service to the airport like the JFK or EWR skytrains.

The JFK service only gets you to subway stations in outer queens.



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25 Lightsaber : Don't they know there is a recession on. Finally, high speed rail to Mirabel. Question, does Gary have rail or is that project stillborn? Seriously,
26 Cdsstlcop : STL - $3.75 ($2.75 regular metrolink fare plus 1 dollar airport station surcharge)
27 ABQopsHP : CBS news did a report, sometime back on the difference between the International airports here in the US and in other contries. It was said that our a
28 PITrules : And AUD$4 to go between terminals; that's a bit steep.
29 BA : I'm glad GVA introduced this incentive. Whenever I fly into GVA or ZRH, I always take the train. Any idea if ZRH has introduced a similar offer?
30 Viscount724 : I don't think so.
31 MarcoPoloWorld : Those surcharges are the classic tourist gouging schemes. Boycott them if they do that. How many of us haven't been confronted with taxi drivers at s
32 OP3000 : The fact that YVR did not have and does not have a highway linking it with downtown made the Canada Line possible and will make it viable as a highly
33 JRadier : Good to know, I will be using that end of the month! Thanks! There are more, AMS, OSL, CPH are prime examples but there are many many more. November
34 Konstantinkoll : Well done, Vancouver! After my stay in 2007 I'm looking forward to return some time in the future.
35 Naritaflyer : Interesting. That's 5 minutes or so longer than a taxi. How is that cutting the trip time to merely 25 minutes? Last I remember the downtown is not t
36 Mysterzip : Or you can take the LIRR into the city if you want to avoid the hot subway, something MTA has started to advertise lately (about time!). I personally
37 Post contains links United787 : There is a stop on the South Shore Line about 1.5 miles SE of the airport. I thought there used to be a shuttle bus but I am not sure now. Until GYY
38 Doug_or : Its just a way of keeping taxpayers from having to subsidize the out of towners. At least up here in Portland, fares pay only about half of the cost
39 Cloudyapple : Heathrow Express is now £16.50 and £19 if you buy on board. That's more than £1 per minute travel time! You can't beat rip off Britain!
40 Mir : Keep in mind that if you take the LIRR, you end up in Penn Station. And I'm not convinced that's any better than Jamaica Center. -Mir
41 AC888YOW : Rome: €11 for Leonardo 'Express' train service to FCOTermini station. Old, slow, expensive. Athens: OASA metro blue line (new since olympic preparat
42 Jerseyguy : Then its good that you can travel on the tube for 6 pents a minute. Oh wait that will take over an hour. Oh well, guess you should take Heathrow Expr
43 Baldguy : I should point out that SkyTrain does not go to the airport - Canada Line does. They are two completely different rail systems, operated by two differ
44 Post contains links PlaneInsomniac : I am sorry, but this is just plain wrong. While the trains and tracks may be incompatible with the existing lines, the Canada Line is considered part
45 Tockeyhockey : i will definitely be a customer as long as i can find a way to rent/return a rental car downtown. the drive to and from the airport is murder, especia
46 VonRichtofen : Agreed 100%
47 BigGSFO : Well they do have to pay those six figure salaries somehow. I am glad to hear about the new Vancouver airport-downtown link. I will be there next mon
48 Mdavies06 : Good to know that there is now a train service from YVR to downtown. Last year when I flew YVR - ORD on a redeye UA flight (it has seen been axed), I
49 BA : It's funded by a visitor's tax levied on hotels and cannot be avoided, so you pay for it whether you use it or not.
50 PlaneInsomniac : 30 minutes in a cab is not entirely unrealistic, but it is quite unlikely during rush hour. As others here have pointed out, Vancouver lacks any true
51 Amritpal : I took the ride on the Aug 17, Freebie day. It was free from 1 pm to 9 pm. 2.5 hours lineup at 3:30 PM. I walked around downtown and finally managed t
52 Lightsaber : Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I agree, until Gary sees regular commercial service, its not worth moving the tracks... Sounds a
53 BA : At the very least, they should build a spur off of the Green Line to LAX.
54 9252fly : Hate to break it to you,it's still operating and clearing customs and immigration in ORD.
55 Thegeek : You guys who are complaining about paying $7 for a train to/from the airport are all whingers. What Aussie747 said about the SYD train was true, but a
56 Kohflot : Now the trick is to get all the folks crossing the border to stick with flying from YVR....
57 Robsaw : I've lived in Richmond for more than 25 year - are you campaigning for City Council or something? I don't know that Richmond is more efficient than o
58 DocLightning : At least your country has mass-transit projects in the works. Ours is embarrassingly short of them.
59 Dlowwa : Once school is back in, I'd be happy to get from the airport/Richmond to downtown in anything less than 40 minutes. But if there's a single stall on
60 Naritaflyer : A little off topic but it makes me laugh when I read Vancouver folks talk about the traffic in Vancouver. I guess they have never been to L.A., Shang
61 Wn676 : I happened to be flying in to YVR on the same day the Canada Line opened. Apart from all of the strollers that were being pushed into me and the littl
62 KGAIflyer : Okay, I'll bite. I've done that connection. What's the problem with Jamaica Center (vs. any other NYC interchange point.)?
63 Connector4you : The bus ride from Downtown to Airport route including the mandatory transfer at Airport Station in Richmond from 98 B LINE to 424 LINE was a third wo
64 YVRSR : I did not see this in a previous post, but the the fare from the Airport to Downtown is 3.75 during peak hours (before 6:30pm on weekdays) and is 2.50
65 Addd : Moscow: RUB 250.00 (approx. USD 7.80) from both SVO (to downtown Belorusski station) and DME (to downtown Paveletski station).
66 PlaneInsomniac : From what I have read, the AddFare will come "sometime" in 2010. The big question is: Before or after the Olympics? That shouldn't be that hard. Ther
67 Mdavies06 : Yes it is still there indeed. Good to know that flight is still running.
68 Dlowwa : Actually, I've been to all of those cities, and there are much worse cities: Tehran (which has to have the most insane traffic I've ever seen), for e
69 YVRLTN : Another Richmond resident here. I dont normally bother going downtown, I shop in Richmond and drink in Richmond but this will certainly make it a bit
70 Naritaflyer : Yup, I understand what you are saying. Just rattling some chain. No worries. I avoid driving in Tokyo area as much as I can and right as you say, I c
71 KGAIflyer : Vancouver and it's 'burbs to the east have more "failed intersections" than I've ever run into in other cities I've driven (rental) cars in -- includ
72 Pnwtraveler : As a former Vancouverite, and a frequent traveler there, the drive up Grandville from the Aiport to downtown is always a culture shift and reminds me
73 Dlowwa : Well, having taken the train into work every day this week, I can say that after the initial madness of Monday (first day, free rides, and 100,000 peo
74 Doug_or : Its dark dirty and falling apart. Much worse than average NYC subway station, which aren't great to begin with. There are always visitors confused ab
75 KGAIflyer : Okay, I'll buy that part. Something that threw me the last time I went through there (mid-July sometime) was natives with rollerbags asking *me* wher
76 Robsaw : Yeh, it will make it a bit more tempting. What I'd really like to do is use it for major events downtown (sports, fireworks, etc) but of course then
77 ACDC8 : If TransLink doesn't operate the Canada Line extension, who does? Its just a name such as the Millenium Line, Expo Line and hopefully soon the Evergr
78 Post contains links KGAIflyer : In London -- not so much on the Underground -- but on the DLR, there are more transit inspectors than you can shake a stick at. They come into your c
79 Jetstar : I just rode the BART this week from the SFO station to the Powell Street station, the one way fare was $8.10. JetStar
80 YVRSR : The "Canada Line" is operated by a private company, I can't remember the name of the company. Anyways, the capital costs of the line were paid by the
81 Post contains links Jrlander : According to Translink's own webpage, Canada Line is part of Skytrain- http://tripplanning.translink.ca/hiw...upSearch&LineName=999&LineAbbr=999
82 KGAIflyer : Question: Isn't Translink diesel bus made up of several private bus companies. Who owns the electric trolley busses?
83 StarAlliance38 : Great job YVR! The Mass Transit connection from Airport to Downtown is one of my priorities when I go on daytrips! And from that: BWI - $1.60 from BWI
84 KGAIflyer : Nobody has mentioned Washington's Metro so far. You can walk right into Concourse B at Reagan-National Airport in Washington DC from the Metro platfor
85 ScottB : $2.00 if you don't have a CharlieCard. The Silver Line is the same fare as the subway.
86 Amritpal : SNC - Lavalin
87 YXwatcherMKE : Hey all those who can take a train to the airport stop complaining! At least you can take a train that gets you to the airport. At MKE we have a train
88 Robsaw : Actually it is InTransitBC with SNC-Lavalin being the main partner and engineering company behind the system. "InTransitBC is a joint venture company
89 RayChuang : I believe the current cost for the JR East Narita Express between Narita Airport and Tokyo Station is 1,280 yen (just over US$13). This is not bad con
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