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An225 Sets Another World Record  
User currently offlineCc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 10639 times:

DATE:17/08/09
SOURCE:Flight International
VIDEO: World's largest aircraft, An-225, emerges to set new lift record

Ukraine’s Antonov An-225 has emerged from an overhaul in Kiev to claim a record airlift at Frankfurt Hahn Airport.

Antonov Airlines’ An-225 is the sole example of the heavy-lift freighter, the world’s largest operational aircraft.

It has been repainted with a new livery featuring the blue and yellow national colours of Ukraine and appeared at Hahn on 11 August. The aircraft transported a 16.2m (53ft)-long generator destined for a gas plant in Armenia.

The generator weighed 187.6t – although the loading frame increased this to just under 190t – which Hahn Airport’s operator claims is the heaviest single-piece cargo ever transported by air.

After a period of dormancy the An-225, which is powered by six Ivchenko Progress D-18 engines, returned to commercial service in 2001 after extensive refitting and has since been available for specialised ad hoc heavy transport work.


Work to build a second An-225 airframe was abandoned and while discussions have occasionally taken place over possible completion, there has been no advancement in construction.

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User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1871 posts, RR: 41
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10520 times:
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The old gal never seems to let us down  Smile Great job of the crew!


Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineCc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10495 times:

I wonder how many fuel stops were required along its trip to the states??

User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6725 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10452 times:



Quoting Cc2314 (Reply 2):
I wonder how many fuel stops were required along its trip to the states??

It was going to Armenia.



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 10434 times:

I wish they'd fine the will / cash to build the second one - imagine the two of them parked up together Big grin

User currently offlineCc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10167 times:

wups i misread the first post,i read that they were going to manufactur a second one but it doesnt look like it will be going ahead Sad

User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 9673 times:



Quoting Scouseflyer (Reply 4):
I wish they'd fine the will / cash to build the second one - imagine the two of them parked up together

I'm sure this kind of work that Mriya does generates plenty of cash every year to build a second one. Just imagine what would it cost to transport this stuff by road (Armenia is landlocked between mountains). So there needs to be will.


User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9023 times:

The second one is already built, sort of. IIRC they never fully completed construction of the 2nd one.

User currently offlineStickers From South Africa, joined Sep 2007, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5231 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 7):
The second one is already built, sort of. IIRC they never fully completed construction of the 2nd one.

Any photo's of this incomplete bird?


User currently offlineAero145 From Iceland, joined Jan 2005, 3071 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 7):
IIRC they never fully completed construction of the 2nd one.

YDRC

Occasionally it pops up that the second one is slowly being finished - I unfortunately don’t believe it, but it would be really cool though, especially if it would have new, more powerful engines (keeping the possibility of having the heaviest aircraft in the world up?    ), and a more modern cockpit. And of course that the passenger compartment would have some windows too.  



Quoting Stickers (Reply 8):
Any photo's of this incomplete bird?

This website for example:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Ignatiy Savranskiy - Russian AviaPhoto Team



Appropriate to also show the previous one in its current clothes:


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Vyacheslav Smigunov



[Edited 2009-08-20 05:12:19]

User currently offlineCc2314 From Ireland, joined Jan 2008, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

The 225 really is in a class of its own,but is there really enough work in the world for two of these birds? i would imagine if there was a big demand we would see more of them already,sure doesnt the an124 take 150ton payload off the deck

User currently offlineDazeflight From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 580 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

The Hahn airport operator fails to add that the runway at Hahn was not capable to allow for a full fuel tank (afaik not the entire runway length could be used) and the plane already had to stop at LEJ, merely 400 km away. By the way, a Discovery Channel/BBC team was aboard and filmed the transport.

User currently offlineBorism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4586 times:



Quoting Cc2314 (Reply 10):
The 225 really is in a class of its own,but is there really enough work in the world for two of these birds? i would imagine if there was a big demand we would see more of them already,sure doesnt the an124 take 150ton payload off the deck

There is certainly enough work, but by having only one flying Mriya Antonov Bureau can press a bit more money for the job they do. If they had two they first would need to spend money finishing second one, and then they would have to lower price because of the increase in capacity it will produce. I guess they will try to press some more money for next few years, but then they'll have to think about long term viability.

Quoting Dazeflight (Reply 11):
The Hahn airport operator fails to add that the runway at Hahn was not capable to allow for a full fuel tank (afaik not the entire runway length could be used) and the plane already had to stop at LEJ, merely 400 km away. By the way, a Discovery Channel/BBC team was aboard and filmed the transport.

Wow, interesting! Looking forward to the program, do you know which series it was filmed for?


User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4038 times:

What is the radio call sign for this bird when its in the air? Also would it be consider a "heavy" or something else?

User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2488 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

http://www.eyefortransport.com/conte...urt-hahn-airport-sets-world-record


us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7377 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3817 times:
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Quoting SP90 (Reply 13):
What is the radio call sign for this bird when its in the air?

Think it's just the bog standard "Alpha Delta Bravo" plus flight numbers; at least it was when it came to MAN.


User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2488 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3624 times:



Quoting SP90 (Reply 13):
What is the radio call sign for this bird when its in the air? Also would it be consider a "heavy" or something else?



Quoting David_itl (Reply 15):
Think it's just the bog standard "Alpha Delta Bravo" plus flight numbers; at least it was when it came to MAN.

Callsign for ADB is "Antonov Bureau". Most air traffic controllers in the western world do not know that, so that is why the pilots identify themselves as "Alpha Delta Bravo XXXX", instead of "Antonov Bureau XXXX", and the controllers just repeat.

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3584 times:



Quoting Cc2314 (Thread starter):
It has been repainted with a new livery featuring the blue and yellow national colours of Ukraine and appeared at Hahn on 11 August.

Does anyone know if this was done due to the aircraft's appearance in the new movie 2012? From the trailer you can clearly make out the AN-225 in its former scheme crashing.



No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineSP90 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3460 times:



Quoting David_itl (Reply 15):
Think it's just the bog standard "Alpha Delta Bravo" plus flight numbers; at least it was when it came to MAN.



Quoting Thenoflyzone (Reply 16):
Callsign for ADB is "Antonov Bureau". Most air traffic controllers in the western world do not know that, so that is why the pilots identify themselves as "Alpha Delta Bravo XXXX", instead of "Antonov Bureau XXXX", and the controllers just repeat.

Thenoflyzone

Thanks for the quick replies. I thought maybe they would use something to distinguish themselves, to let ATC know something extra big is coming in. I imagine the wake turbulence on the AN-225 would be even more severe than that of a 747 or A380.


User currently offlineThenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2488 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3131 times:



Quoting SP90 (Reply 18):
I imagine the wake turbulence on the AN-225 would be even more severe than that of a 747 or A380.

We provide same wake turbulence separation for the A225 as for the B747. The A380 has a wake turbulence separation that is greater than that of the A225 (Probably due to greater potential of vortex creation of the aircraft). Anyhow, i'm not an expert, but someone at ICAO thinks the A380 makes more wake than the A225. Go figure.

Basically, the A225 is still a heavy, where as the A380 is a super heavy aircraft in terms of wake turbulence.

Thenoflyzone



us Air Traffic Controllers have a good record, we haven't left one up there yet !!
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