Sralfalo From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 27293 times:
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MSN 4007, the first Babybus for British Airways, had it's first flight today during which it performed a touch & go on HAM's runway 15 before heading back to XFW where it landed safely.
Picture: http://www.aviation-community.de/for....php?f=8&t=6259&view=unread#unread
BA will use two A318's (Business Class only) on the new route LCY-JFK with a fuel stop at SNN on the westbound leg. Eastbound will be nonstop. BA001 will take off for the first time on september 29th.
Sralfalo From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 66 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 26632 times:
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Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3): Is it taking a BA Concorde flight number BA002/001?
Yes, as the Times Online wrote: The choice of flight numbers will surprise some aviation enthusiasts – BA001 was previously used by Concorde until its retirement in 2003.
MadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10243 posts, RR: 40 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 26552 times:
Quoting Sralfalo (Reply 4): Yes, as the Times Online wrote:
The choice of flight numbers will surprise some aviation enthusiasts – BA001 was previously used by Concorde until its retirement in 2003.
I thought the flight numbers looked very familiar!
They better make them really good flights then!!
There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1869 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 26277 times:
Quoting Sralfalo (Thread starter): BA will use two A318's (Business Class only) on the new route LCY-JFK with a fuel stop at SNN on the westbound leg.
What's the point of a business person using the downtown airport if it's a one stop flight?
Might as well go to LHR and go direct to anywhere, no?
Pellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1845 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 26220 times:
Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 9): What's the point of a business person using the downtown airport if it's a one stop flight?
Might as well go to LHR and go direct to anywhere, no?
Much discussed already on old threads.
O&D will drive this flight. Customs and immigration in SNN inbound to JFK while the aircraft is being fueled, thereby bypassing delays at JFK. Much quicker for people who are in the area of LCY already.
SKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1327 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 25983 times:
Quoting EbbUK (Reply 11): Is that a german flag that I see on the tail of BA's babybus? Why?
All German registered aircraft have to show the German flag, which is usually placed next to the registration and as the aircraft remains property of Airbus until its handover to British Airways, it has to on the German register...
Next Flights: LHR-OSL (319), OSL-LHR (321), LHR-ARN (320), ARN-VXO (S34), VXO-BMA (ATP), ARN-LHR (763), LHR-CPH (320), C
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6624 posts, RR: 17 Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 25067 times:
Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 9): What's the point of a business person using the downtown airport if it's a one stop flight?
Fifteen minute taxi City of London to LCY. One hour taxi City of London to LHR.
Fifteen minute before departure check in LCY. Two hour before departure check in LHR.
Max 32 passengers to clear USA immigration and customs during short refueling stop SNN on LCY-SNN-JFK route. Queue for hours (?) for customs and immigration with hundreds of other passengers arriving on your and other aircraft when travellin LHR-JFK.
Elapsed time LCY-SNN-LHR 9 hours 25 minutes. Elapsed time LHR-JFK 7 hours 30 minutes.
Saving on LCY route 35 minutes plus total (unpredictable) time on LHR route from disembarkation at JFK to clearing US customs and immigration.
And, of course, without the refueling stop the return journey is even better.
MarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 600 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 24803 times:
Quoting Sralfalo (Thread starter): MSN 4007, the first Babybus for British Airways, had it's first flight today during which it performed a touch & go on HAM's runway 15 before heading back to XFW where it landed safely.
Picture: http://www.aviation-community.de/for....php?f=8&t=6259&view=unread#unread
BA will use two A318's (Business Class only) on the new route LCY-JFK with a fuel stop at SNN on the westbound leg. Eastbound will be nonstop. BA001 will take off for the first time on september 29th.
Thanks for the post. That is one good-looking bird!
LACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 24767 times:
Thankyou for posting the photo. It appears to not have an over the wing exit? Am I missing something or has it not been installed yet?
Timpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 24733 times:
VV701: Customs is totally random, I arrived on a little Q400 at YVR and waited almost 90 minutes in customs because the flight just happened to arrive after a bunch of heavies landed late from Asia. Been to KUL on a full 747 and waited almost zero at customs. Capacity of single plane has little to do with customs waits.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14332 posts, RR: 26 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 24682 times:
Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3): Is it taking a BA Concorde flight number BA002/001?
I believe I read somewhere that it will. I don't like it. Letting BA1 be used for any other flight is like the Chicago Bears letting someone wear 34. It just isn't right.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
Pellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1845 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 24228 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 18): I believe I read somewhere that it will. I don't like it. Letting BA1 be used for any other flight is like the Chicago Bears letting someone wear 34. It just isn't right.
It just doesn't seem special enough, does it? I wish they could give the A318s a special scheme or something. Like a "whoosh" or a "speed" paint scheme to hark back to the Concorde era without doing something cheesy such as painting a Concorde on the side...
Shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1472 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 22896 times:
Might be BA001 (and I'm pleased to see it back...all airlines should have a 001) but the boarding announcement won't be the same:
"British Airways wishes to invite passengers to board flight BA001, Concorde supersonic service to New York"...now that really made the hairs on the back of your neck stand up!
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31117 posts, RR: 74 Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 22850 times:
Quoting Timpdx (Reply 17): VV701: Customs is totally random, I arrived on a little Q400 at YVR and waited almost 90 minutes in customs because the flight just happened to arrive after a bunch of heavies landed late from Asia
How does that compare to SNN and LCY? In the former there are very few trans-Atlantic flights pre-clearing, and all leave earlier than the SNN arrives, and the latter where almost all flights arrive from within the EU and have no customs immigrations.
The BA A318 passengers, in both airports, will likely be the only ones going through customs at the time, every single day.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14332 posts, RR: 26 Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 22742 times:
Perimeter rule. No flight may go beyond a 1500 mile radius from LGA, except on Saturdays.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
25 NewYorkCityBoi: I don't know why many people in here like to think that LGA is more convenient compare to JFK and EWR. Lots of New Yorkers prefer JFK and EWR because
26 Bongodog1964: P&W would still be a subfleet, as the other A32 series have IAE engines, which are only partly P&W
27 N14AZ: Here is another shot: http://www.aviation-friends-hamburg-forum.de/showthread.php?tid=617 When were these A318s ordered? Wasn't too long ago, right? P
28 VHTJE: Correct. BA's website has the seat maps already uploaded: http://www.britishairways.com/travel/seatcwlc/public/en_gb Only 8 rows, no over-wing emerge
29 Jpiddink: Nice artwork, but am I correct in assuming it will rarely be on that very spot in normal service: taking off from LCY runway 28, and then heading lef
30 Shankly: So should have the "feel" of the upper deck on the 747.
31 BmiBaby737: It's there, it's just not in operation.
33 JerseyFlyer: Is the PW option available with ETOPS? With only 15 PW 318s flying with LAN over land maybe not?
34 DEVILFISH: You be the judge..... Â [Edited 2009-08-20 04:08:55]
35 LY777: Honestly, I would prefer flying Biz Class on a 744/777 rather than on a plane that needs a fuel stop...
36 APYu: For the people using the service their decision will be based on time rather than aircraft preference
37 Zhutton: Personally, I think that the Concorde flight numbers should be permanently retired, Concorde marked an era for BA, and when Concorde flew nearly every
38 GDB: The idea is that the market for this service, is very close to LCY, not having to traverse across Lindon to get to LHR. Naturally, many doubted after
39 A318: Does anyone know how they are going to crew this bird? Two up front and three in the back?
40 Speedmarque: Correct, although subject to agreement.
41 HAWK21M: Looks great.Awaiting the cabin pics soon. regds MEL.
42 AireuropeF100: According to a Gatwick forum the plane will be delivered to LGW on the 28th or 31st August. I believe it will be maintained at LGW going forward due t
43 Gemuser: See Reply 44 in this thread: BA LCY Fleet A318's And Embraers (by BAfan Aug 19 2009 in Civil Aviation) Gemuser
44 Viscount724: May 27, 2008. http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre...08_05_27_british_airways_a318.html
45 VV701: Significantly before then. British Airways announced the order in a Press Release dated 1 February 2008. It was titled "Business flights take off fro
46 Viscount724: Manufacturers usually don't announce orders until they are final. I expect there were still some loose ends at the time of the initial BA press relea
47 413x3: What are prices going to be for that flight round trip?
48 BMIFlyer: Just did a couple of random checks..... Trip 1: Outbound LCY - JFK on Sept 29th, rtn JFK - LCY Sept 30th = £ 4,934.80 all in. Trip 2: Outbound LCY-
49 VV701: Early flights following the launch are reported to be full or nearly full. And the lowest price on a nearly full flight will be high. And the price a
50 TristarSteve: The delivery flight of UNA is scheduled for Friday 28 Aug BA9261E should arrive at LGW at 1710Z.
51 CHRISBA777ER: Why couldnt they buy the Frontier A318 that they are scrapping? A two year old babybus being scrapped - so sad. Surely BA could have picked two up che
52 EcuadorianMD11: Good thinking............why not indeed?? Ecuadorian MD11.
53 Johruk: I do not think the flight is operating then. Looking at Worldspan there is no operation on Friday or Sat on the following: 1.X56 #BA 2 J C D R I JFKL
54 VV701: My recollection - please correct me if I am mistaken - is that to get type approval for the 5.5 degree approach to LCY the 318 used was modified. If
55 TristarSteve: The first A318 is going traing at Manston on 3 and 4 Sep, and will operate its first training flight into LCY on 4 Sep arriving at 1800Z.
56 CHRISBA777ER: Surely its just a software thing? I cant imagine they differ in terms of hardware - bigger spoilers etc? Perhaps bigger, heavier brakes, and a tweake
57 TristarSteve: The only hardware change is the pushbutton on the overhead panel. The rest is software and computors. Suppose if the Frontier was for sale 18months a
58 Theginge: As has been said, it would have needed to come on the market a year or so ago for BA to be able to consider it.
59 GCT64: Flightglobal http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...318-arrives-at-london-gatwick.html says that the aircraft will go to Lyneham (rather than Manston
60 Rutankrd: Like to see it do a Khe Sanh approach now thats steep !
61 VV701: Thanks for the link. Found the last paragraph a little intriguing: "While the aircraft’s cabin interior is already complete, British Airways is kee
62 Bongodog1964: Have to be 9-5 Mon-Fri then, as the RAF likes its evenings and weekends off.
63 CalebWilliams: From the BA press release: All A318 models were certified for Steep Approach in 2007 after compatibility tests at London City Airport in 2006. .... C
65 AZA330: Wow...it did make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!!! They should have saved the flight numbers 001 and 002 for something else... for as spe
66 TristarSteve: Yes Flight is right. UNA will be at Lyneham doing training 3 and 4 Sep then at LCY flying training 5 and 6 Sep. Then it is planned to go to JFK via S
67 LHR27C: Steve, could you still confirm it's planned into LCY on 4th Sep at 1800Z or has that changed?
68 TristarSteve: Yes it positions from Lyneham and nightstops at LCY
69 BA777: Any idea what times on the 3rd and 4th at Lyneham? Might be worth a peek HL
70 TristarSteve: It will arrive LYE at 0830Z on the 3rd and will fly all day Nightstop at LYE and fly all day the 4th before leaving for LCY at 1715Z on the 4th.
71 Speedbird555: Looks like they are training steep approaches into LCY this morning as a BA A318 has performed at least 4 touch and go's in the last hour. Impressive
72 Babybus: Everytime I see a A318 I want to tickle it under the chin. What a cute little bird. Regards crewing, does this mean that the crew might be doing LCY-J
73 APYu: Flight crew yes - following a few days off after a transatlantic trip. Cabin crew would do similar but only from LGW as they will be LGW based crews.
74 Acelanzarote: Once up and running what times will these planes be on the ground at LCY? Good luck to BA with this service, wonder what they will do if it really tak
75 Oly720man: Looking at ba.com, the service starts 30 Sept then daily mon-fri. Arr 0715am, dep 1250pm. From 13 Oct there are 2/day with the other flight daily mon
76 TristarSteve: But only 30 flight crews are being trained on the aircraft. There is a recency limit on doing the steep LCY approach and this is as many as can keep
77 APYu: I think there are only around 300 Cabin crew being trained on the service too to ensure they remain familiar with the service to keep it to a high st
78 Acelanzarote: So are both A318's on the ground at LCY between 1025-1250? Just wondering if there is enough ramp area to park up for that long? thanks
79 Wahdadli: Do these A318s have extra fuel tanks?
80 Burnsie28: The fuel stop is only one way and thats to the US due to runway length, return its supposed to be non-stop. Plus IIRC you clear US customs in SNN and
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