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Google Earth: 747 Over Yellowstone  
User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 17063 times:

I was looking at Lake Yellowstone on Google Earth and came across two gray lines which looked to be telephone wires but turned out to be a contrail. The contrails go on for almost three miles. I was just wondering if anyone could identify this 747. I know NW, BA, KE, and other cargo airlines operate the 747 from SEA. Could it be from PDX or ANC?

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.735826,-110.58238&z=16&t=h&hl=en

Thought it was neat and wanted to see what you all thought...

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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2964 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 17030 times:

Could be AF from CDG to SFO.


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User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3109 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16937 times:

Too cool! Had to share that one with my colleagues. Great find!

Just curious, what were you looking for in Yellowstone? That particular scene is a very interesting landscape.

-Rampart


User currently offlineHotelmode From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 460 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16926 times:

Almost certainly Europe to lax or sfo from the track. Not Ba as engines are white. AF probably good guess.

User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16744 times:



Quoting Hotelmode (Reply 3):
Almost certainly Europe to lax or sfo from the track.

Agreed. Not coming from SEA or PDX, its headed in the wrong direction.



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16617 times:
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One thing I like about living in BOI is seeing the 747s (and 777s,A340s etc) flying between Europe and Calif. I see that they vary between Central Oregon to the MIdwest when travelling. I like to guess as to who they are and then check on flightaware.com. Seems its usually AF,VS,BA,KL,or UA. LH too


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User currently offlineTimpdx From United States of America, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 16521 times:

I went right over Yellowstone on a VA A340 a few years back. LHR,CDG,AMS-LAX would be my guess.

User currently offlineInnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16387 times:

How many Euro 74s do they get to LAS? PHX? Those are a couple of other destination options.


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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1914 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 16321 times:

Thanks for sharing the find. Way cool!

Quoting InnocuousFox (Reply 7):
How many Euro 74s do they get to LAS? PHX? Those are a couple of other destination options.

I know that PHX sees BA, and LAS is served by VS. I don't know off the top of my head if there are more. The track by this airplane seems to be pointing closest to LAS, but the color scheme doesn't match either carrier. Maybe it's going to LAX, say, Air France. Google Earth didn't show a specific time for the photo, so it could have been a while ago.


User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 16157 times:



Quoting Rampart (Reply 2):
Just curious, what were you looking for in Yellowstone? That particular scene is a very interesting landscape.

When flying IAH-SEA back in June we flew right over a bright blue lake and I thought it was the Great Salt Lake. It turns out it was actually Lake Yellowstone. I found it by zooming out of Washington and it just caught my eye. I love flying over landscapes I wouldn't find here in Florida.


User currently offlineF9Widebody From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1604 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 16049 times:

Could be NZ as well.


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User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3524 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12823 times:

Judging by it's track (as ascertained by the way it's pointed and the contrail) it almost has to be headed to LAX. It's headed too far south for it to be heading into SFO, so that leaves LAX as the most logical place. Obviously, PHX and LAS get maybe one or two Europe 744s each per day, but LAX probably gets at least 10, if not more (AF, LH, BA, VS, etc ...).


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User currently offlineDL752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 174 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11849 times:

Could it be headed for LAS?

User currently offlineSlinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

If you look at the tail there seems to be a darker ring of paint from the rear fuselage ... we're looking from above and the sun is bleaching everything out so it might not be all white, it could be a VS 747 if the tail is red???

User currently offlineStarguy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10410 times:

I was just about to post the exact same thing. I think it is a VS747.

User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3109 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 10261 times:



Quoting DL752 (Reply 12):
Could it be headed for LAS?

It looks more aligned with LAS than LAX or PHX, but I don't know the usual route patterns. FlightAware seems to indicate that the regular VS flight to LAS comes very close to this position in Yellowstone, with some variation. That would be my guess.

Incidentally, I don't think the thread sufficiently answered the question as to the destination, so "reading it", as has been suggested, doesn't give you a definitive answer.  Wink At least yet.

Rampart


User currently offlineAsteriskceo From United States of America, joined May 2004, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7221 times:

it's spraying yellowstone with it's chem-trails!

(kidding)


User currently offlineJoemac547 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6962 times:
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Even if the sun is bleaching out the red rear end of a VX fuselage, VX's engines are red, and I think those in the photo are clearly white. That also eliminates BA (blue engines) and UA (ditto). That leaves AF or NZ, right?

User currently offlineMcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6689 times:

I flew from BZN to DEN on UA recently and heard both AF and NZ on channel 9.

User currently offlineStarguy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6659 times:

The sun has bleached out all colour, but the purple border on the tail stands out on that photo as a darker border. That Aircraft is VS, I thought it as soon as I looked at it.

User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3109 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6617 times:

I don't know how Google Earth assembles its images. But, the 747's "ghost shadow" image -- which is sometimes seen on other moving objects in Google Earth -- does have red engines.

-Rampart


User currently offlineAirplanecrazy From United States of America, joined May 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

I believe that the image is a composite of spectraly filtered pictures taken by the satellite at very close intervals that are then combined to produce a color image. This combining would explain the *ghost* images of the airplane in other colors, would mean that the engines are indeed red, and that the airplane is therefire a VS. Looking at the profile I concur that it is a 747 and not an A340. Extrapolating the flight path it looks like Las Vegas is a possible destination, but we don't know the ATC routing for the day the picture was taken. Definitely a cool picture!

User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3109 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5962 times:



Quoting Airplanecrazy (Reply 21):
I believe that the image is a composite of spectraly filtered pictures taken by the satellite at very close intervals that are then combined to produce a color image. This combining would explain the *ghost* images of the airplane in other colors, would mean that the engines are indeed red, and that the airplane is therefire a VS.

I was thinking the same thing today. (The image is still generating discussion among my colleagues.) I am not sure that the close-in high resolution image is from a satellite, but the same process may be used for aerial digital imagery, IIRC.

-Rampart


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6796 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5951 times:

It's pretty definitely a satellite pic. Can you figure how to tell?

User currently offlineRampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3109 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5632 times:



Quoting Timz (Reply 23):
It's pretty definitely a satellite pic. Can you figure how to tell?

Good question. How?

-Rampart


25 Timz : When you get the Google map, click on "My Maps" over on the left, then scroll down on that left panel and click on "Distance Measurement Tool". Zoom i
26 Rampart : Well, "duh" on me! That's clever! It's a 747 flying at altitude, impossible to capture with aerial imagery the way it looks... or you're mistaken and
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