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What Is AC's Longest A32x Flight?  
User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5535 times:
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Does anyone know what the longest A32x route is for AC?

I would imagine something like YHZ-YVR, but perhaps there are some south america flights that are 6+ hours too.

Anyone know?


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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5515 times:

YVR-YHZ isn't operated non stop.

Distance wise:
YUL-SFO is 2539 miles
YYZ-BGI is 2424 mi
YYZ-CCS is 2401 mi

for comparison YVR-YHZ would be 2760mi.


User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5484 times:
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Yes, you're right. I put them in the wrong order. I meant YVR-YHZ. I guess that's still a good candidate for the longest flight then.


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User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 693 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5467 times:

If I'm not mistaken, AC did operate YHZ-YVR v.v. a few years back. The flight now goes YHZ-YYC-YVR v.v.


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineAirman99o From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 975 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5454 times:

Forgive me I forget the year, 97/98????? I could be wrong, but I did fly Direct on AC from YHZ-YVR non stop on the 319. Long flight, esp since I was stuck in the B seat. When they also still offered a hot meal on a plane instead of the Buy On Board service


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User currently offlineChrisA330 From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5400 times:



Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 2):
Yes, you're right. I put them in the wrong order. I meant YVR-YHZ. I guess that's still a good candidate for the longest flight then.

Don't understand your post...neither YVR-YHZ or YHZ-YVR is operated non-stop any longer. I assumed you were wondering about routes that AC is currently operating.


User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5312 times:
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Doh!

Chris I feel like a fool! I did not notice the 1 stop flag in the schedule. My apologies.

Is there any talk of re staring the YHZ-YYT-LHR flight? I imagine that must have been a long one too.



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4913 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5291 times:



Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 6):
Is there any talk of re staring the YHZ-YYT-LHR flight? I imagine that must have been a long one too.

No. YHZ-YYT-LHR was operated with a B767-300, (at the end ... over the years it was a DC-8, L1011 and B767-200ER).

YHZ-LHR is now a non-stop B767-300ER. YYT-LHR was operated two summers ago as an experiment using two A319s equipped to ETOPS120 capability. It was an economic disaster and is not likely to be repeated.



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User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4840 times:



Quoting Matt (Reply 3):
The flight now goes YHZ-YYC-YVR

Actually, that flight starts in YYT, AC185.



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User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3225 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4768 times:

Although no longer current the YYZ-POS route was longer and flown on the A319 for quite a few years. It had previously seen the A320 - altogether quite a capacity reduction from the 767s which did the route up to the mid 1990s. The route was cancelled last year due to stiff competition from the new BW, Caribbean Airlines.

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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4704 times:
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Quoting ChrisA330 (Reply 1):

Distance wise:
YUL-SFO is 2539 miles
YYZ-BGI is 2424 mi
YYZ-CCS is 2401 mi

The YUL-SFO trip is a long one, longer than some of AC's YYZ/YUL flights to the UK, AMS, possibly CDG? It's too bad AC doesn't offer catering on a long trip like this in the main cabin. That must be hell  crazy  .


User currently offlineHywel From Uganda, joined Apr 2008, 801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4667 times:

I flew SFO-YUL 5 months ago, on an Airbus A321. I was surprised we didn't have to stop to re-fuel... block time was close to 5 hours...

User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4562 times:

What happened to Heathrow - St.John´s flight? It was (is) opereted by AC A319.

User currently offlineYYZatcboy From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1068 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4552 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Reply 12):



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 7):
YYT-LHR was operated two summers ago as an experiment using two A319s equipped to ETOPS120 capability. It was an economic disaster and is not likely to be repeated.

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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4543 times:



Quoting YYZatcboy (Reply 13):

Haven´t got used to Canadian IATA codes...btw, why was it an economic disaster? Newfoundland was British territory until 1949 (I think) and there is still a need for their connection to Europe.

I am wondering if St.Pierre-Paris would work (thats not Canada however).


User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4522 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Reply 14):
I am wondering if St.Pierre-Paris would work

St Pierre's runway is too short for heavies.
Air St Pierre uses ATR's to YUL, connecting with AF.

BA84


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4485 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 12):
What happened to Heathrow - St.John´s flight? It was (is) opereted by AC A319.

Yes this flight was operated with A319. Here is a trip report of that flight:

Amazing Trip Across The Atlantic By A319 (Pics) (by BMIFlyer May 25 2007 in Trip Reports)?threadid=100930&searchid=100931&s=YYT-LHR#ID100931


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4455 times:

Air Canada does YYZ/GND during summer and winter and that is 2427. YYZ/POS is sometimes on the Airbus 2528.

So they do stretch the Airbus a bit.



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User currently offlineAlexEU From Serbia, joined Oct 2007, 1817 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4178 times:



Quoting BA84 (Reply 15):
Air St Pierre uses ATR's to YUL, connecting with AF.

Is it from the international terminal? Even if St.Pierre had longer runway I am not sure if flights to Paris would work, as there is not much demand.

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 16):
Amazing Trip Across The Atlantic By A319 (Pics) (by BMIFlyer May 25 2007 in Trip Reports)?threadid=100930&searchid=100931&s=YYT-LHR#ID100931

Thanks, I read that nice trip report when it was posted!


User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 809 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4109 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 18):
Is it from the international terminal? Even if St.Pierre had longer runway I am not sure if flights to Paris would work, as there is not much demand.

There were talks underway a couple of years ago about starting a Paris to St. John's flight (presumably Air France) with connections to PJ to St. Pierre. I think the flights were rumored to run 2/3X per week.
In the meantime, PJ is beefing up their fleet as they will be accepting a second ATR42 soon.



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User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4088 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 14):
Haven´t got used to Canadian IATA codes...btw, why was it an economic disaster? Newfoundland was British territory until 1949 (I think) and there is still a need for their connection to Europe.

I am wondering if St.Pierre-Paris would work (thats not Canada however).

Would there be enough traffic to warrant a flight?

On the St John's to London flight there were very low yields. I flew it once and there were only around 20 people on the flight. This is not a way to make money especially since belly cargo is very limited on that particular flight.



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User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 811 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4072 times:



Quoting Brilondon (Reply 20):
On the St John's to London flight there were very low yields. I flew it once and there were only around 20 people on the flight. This is not a way to make money especially since belly cargo is very limited on that particular flight.

It wouldn't be limited if there are only 20 pax onboard...


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4062 times:



Quoting CARST (Reply 21):
It wouldn't be limited if there are only 20 pax onboard...

Obviously, or not so obviously, I meant over all. On that particular flight there would have been no problem.



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User currently offlineBA84 From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 418 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3705 times:
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Quoting AlexEU (Reply 18):
Quoting BA84 (Reply 15):
Air St Pierre uses ATR's to YUL, connecting with AF.

Is it from the international terminal? Even if St.Pierre had longer runway I am not sure if flights to Paris would work, as there is not much demand.

Air St Pierre to YUL (int) connecting to AF, once a week in winter, twice a week in summer.

The load is a mix of civil servants to Paris, and St Pierrais to Montreal for shopping.

BA84


User currently offlineJamincan From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 775 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3580 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Reply 14):
I am wondering if St.Pierre-Paris would work (thats not Canada however).

St. Pierre and Miquelon have a population of only 6000 or so. I would be very surprised if they could support a flight to Paris.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24858 posts, RR: 22
Reply 25, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 3215 times:



Quoting LACA773 (Reply 10):
Quoting ChrisA330 (Reply 1):

Distance wise:
YUL-SFO is 2539 miles
YYZ-BGI is 2424 mi
YYZ-CCS is 2401 mi

The YUL-SFO trip is a long one, longer than some of AC's YYZ/YUL flights to the UK, AMS, possibly CDG?

No it isn't. It doesn't even come close. AC's shortest Europe route from YYZ/YUL is YUL-LHR, 3249 mi. Even AC's shortest Europe route of all, YHZ-LHR, 2857 mi., is over 300 miles further than YUL-SFO.

Also, AC hasn't served AMS for a few years.


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