BestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7600 posts, RR: 57 Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7703 times:
Does Transaero have the least homogenised fleet of any major European carrier? With 46 aircraft flying, and 12 aircraft variants - they have, on average less than 4 of each aircraft variant.
Even within aircraft types – the onboard product differs widely – many aircraft have different seating variances – some 737s have premium economy, some don’t – some have four rows of business class, some three and others two – and even within one aircraft variant (ie 735’s) - Some have route maps – others don’t – some have leather seats – others fabric.
Even more confusingly - some even have a mixture of leather and fabric seats on the same aircraft – and even different types of seating in business class on the same aircraft – some with leg rests, and the row behind - without
This must cause huge customer confusion and dissatisfaction.
With a lack of commonality – how does UN allocate aircraft to routes? For example DME LON is usually a 737 route, with premium economy – but three flights a week are on a 738 – with no premium economy - a real annoyance if you pay for Y+ and get Y-
Boeing 737-300 - 2
Boeing 737-400 - 5
Boeing 737-500 - 9
Boeing 737-800 - 2
Boeing 747-200 - 6
Boeing 747-300 - 4
Boeing 747-400 - 3
Boeing 767-200ER - 3
Boeing 767-300ER - 8
Boeing 777-200 - 1
Boeing 777-200ER - 1
Tupolev Tu-214 - 2
Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7356 times:
Transaero is expending by buying everything they can get, that explains it. KLM and others on the other hand keep their aircraft very long, which gives a large variety. If you look into the LH group, they fly almost everything you can imagine, but since they offer service for everything anyways, that is no problem for them.
Yeah, but can you really call Transaero a major European carrier?
I never quite understood what this airline is. While often described as the most professional russian carrier, it seems to be quite ad hoc looking at their fleet. And while their main business seems to be in charters, they have substantial scheduled services network...
It seems to be hybrid of everything. But maybe that is how Airline should be run in Russia, they sure seem to be quite successful.
Iberia747256B From Spain, joined May 2009, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7029 times:
Quoting LY777 (Reply 3): I remember that at one point, IB had a very very wide variety of machine
Yeah you´re wright in fact I have the actual fleet from around 2001 wich was formed bY:
9 A340-300 + 5 on order + 5 options
2 DC-8-62 (freighters)
10 B747-256B (some of them Combi´s)
21 B757-256 + 8 on order
35 A319/320/321 + 66 on order
6 A300 (the old ones with the 3 man crew)
and if you add the Air Nostrum fleet and Binter fleet of the time
5 CRJ-200 + 5 orders
15 ATR 72
5 CASA CN 235-200
I know its prehistoric, but since one brought it up, I thought I´d share, today Iberias fleet isn´t that diverse, A320/319/321 and A340-300/600 hmm quite a boring fleet if you ask me I prefered the old one with the diesel 9´s and 727
Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7029 times:
The thing with Russian market is, at least three airlines claim to be best (biggest, most profitable, most proffesional etc.). That makes for SU, S7 and UN.
All of them offer a variety of aircraft, if we count SU partners (such as Aeroflot-Nord, or Aeroflot-Plus) we should come to more variants then UN, although much bigger numbers per type. S7 is little less diversed.
But they all operate on slightly different market - SU is more or less classical legacy carrier, S7 is a general carrier venturing into low fares from time to time, and UN is a big charter player, also operating scheduled routes.
The light at the end of tunnel turn out to be a lighted sing saying NO EXIT
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3778 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5682 times:
Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 18): On order from who? I thought Boeing shut the 757 line down a couple years ago (I think they still could have sold many more copies)? And were the 757 assembled in Washington or at Long Beach?
Washington. And the IB fleet mentioned in post 11 was the fleet maintained by the airline in 2001, not 2009:
Quoting Iberia747256B (Reply 11): Yeah you´re wright in fact I have the actual fleet from around 2001 wich was formed bY:
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
AAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5211 times:
I know this is 4 seperate airlines however they are all under control of the same parent company, the Thomas Cook Group. Here is a Fleet listing... (Including TCX, TCW, VKG, CFG)
x25 Airbus A320-CFM
x7 Airbus A320-IAE
x10 Airbus A321
x7 Airbus A332
x3 Airbus A333
x16 Boeing 757-200
x15 Boeing 757-300
x3 Boeing 767-300 (CF Engines) *x1 leased to MON - G-DIMB
x9 Boeing 767-300W (PW Engines)