BestWestern From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 6431 posts, RR: 58 Posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5928 times:
Does Transaero have the least homogenised fleet of any major European carrier? With 46 aircraft flying, and 12 aircraft variants - they have, on average less than 4 of each aircraft variant.
Even within aircraft types – the onboard product differs widely – many aircraft have different seating variances – some 737s have premium economy, some don’t – some have four rows of business class, some three and others two – and even within one aircraft variant (ie 735’s) - Some have route maps – others don’t – some have leather seats – others fabric.
Even more confusingly - some even have a mixture of leather and fabric seats on the same aircraft – and even different types of seating in business class on the same aircraft – some with leg rests, and the row behind - without
This must cause huge customer confusion and dissatisfaction.
With a lack of commonality – how does UN allocate aircraft to routes? For example DME LON is usually a 737 route, with premium economy – but three flights a week are on a 738 – with no premium economy - a real annoyance if you pay for Y+ and get Y-
Boeing 737-300 - 2
Boeing 737-400 - 5
Boeing 737-500 - 9
Boeing 737-800 - 2
Boeing 747-200 - 6
Boeing 747-300 - 4
Boeing 747-400 - 3
Boeing 767-200ER - 3
Boeing 767-300ER - 8
Boeing 777-200 - 1
Boeing 777-200ER - 1
Tupolev Tu-214 - 2
DALCA From Netherlands, joined Aug 2006, 455 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5734 times:
Quoting Tripple7 (Reply 4): This from the top of my head. Not entirely sure whether the F50 and F100 are still around. I believe they are being phased out
They are still around, they are slowly being phased out but we will still be seeing them around for a while.
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Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4248 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5581 times:
Transaero is expending by buying everything they can get, that explains it. KLM and others on the other hand keep their aircraft very long, which gives a large variety. If you look into the LH group, they fly almost everything you can imagine, but since they offer service for everything anyways, that is no problem for them.
Borism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5392 times:
Quoting BestWestern (Thread starter): Does Transaero have the least homogenised fleet of any major European carrier?
Yeah, but can you really call Transaero a major European carrier?
I never quite understood what this airline is. While often described as the most professional russian carrier, it seems to be quite ad hoc looking at their fleet. And while their main business seems to be in charters, they have substantial scheduled services network...
It seems to be hybrid of everything. But maybe that is how Airline should be run in Russia, they sure seem to be quite successful.
Iberia747256B From Spain, joined May 2009, 20 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5254 times:
Quoting LY777 (Reply 3): I remember that at one point, IB had a very very wide variety of machine
Yeah you´re wright in fact I have the actual fleet from around 2001 wich was formed bY:
9 A340-300 + 5 on order + 5 options
6 DC-10
2 B767-300
2 DC-8-62 (freighters)
10 B747-256B (some of them Combi´s)
21 B757-256 + 8 on order
35 A319/320/321 + 66 on order
6 A300 (the old ones with the 3 man crew)
3 B737
23 B727-256
16 DC-9-30´S
24 MD-87
13 MD-88
and if you add the Air Nostrum fleet and Binter fleet of the time
5 CRJ-200 + 5 orders
15 ATR 72
22 F-50
5 CASA CN 235-200
I know its prehistoric, but since one brought it up, I thought I´d share, today Iberias fleet isn´t that diverse, A320/319/321 and A340-300/600 hmm quite a boring fleet if you ask me I prefered the old one with the diesel 9´s and 727
Fabo From Slovakia, joined Aug 2005, 1111 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5254 times:
The thing with Russian market is, at least three airlines claim to be best (biggest, most profitable, most proffesional etc.). That makes for SU, S7 and UN.
All of them offer a variety of aircraft, if we count SU partners (such as Aeroflot-Nord, or Aeroflot-Plus) we should come to more variants then UN, although much bigger numbers per type. S7 is little less diversed.
But they all operate on slightly different market - SU is more or less classical legacy carrier, S7 is a general carrier venturing into low fares from time to time, and UN is a big charter player, also operating scheduled routes.
The light at the end of tunnel turn out to be a lighted sing saying NO EXIT
This summer they decided to "streamline" their fleet, so they are only flying the following:
1 MD-82
2 BAe 146-300
2 A320
1 A319
1 ATR42 (being replaced by a new ATR72)
Tiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4592 times:
- On order from who? I thought Boeing shut the 757 line down a couple years ago (I think they still could have sold many more copies)? And were the 757 assembled in Washington or at Long Beach?
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Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3706 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3907 times:
Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 18): On order from who? I thought Boeing shut the 757 line down a couple years ago (I think they still could have sold many more copies)? And were the 757 assembled in Washington or at Long Beach?
Washington. And the IB fleet mentioned in post 11 was the fleet maintained by the airline in 2001, not 2009:
Quoting Iberia747256B (Reply 11): Yeah you´re wright in fact I have the actual fleet from around 2001 wich was formed bY:
Cheers
Mats
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AAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3436 times:
I know this is 4 seperate airlines however they are all under control of the same parent company, the Thomas Cook Group. Here is a Fleet listing... (Including TCX, TCW, VKG, CFG)
x25 Airbus A320-CFM
x7 Airbus A320-IAE
x10 Airbus A321
x7 Airbus A332
x3 Airbus A333
x16 Boeing 757-200
x15 Boeing 757-300
x3 Boeing 767-300 (CF Engines) *x1 leased to MON - G-DIMB
x9 Boeing 767-300W (PW Engines)
GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3059 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 22): You cannot count types flown by sub contractoirs to a carriers fleet.
Well I think I made it quite clear for everyone that these aircrafts are operated by different airlines of the Lufthansa group.
However, as they obviously do just can switch orders under these airlines I just noted all the different aircraft types which (will) operated for the Lufthansa group.
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 22): BTW you forgot the 744F of Jade as well as the 777F of Aero Logic.
No, I didn't forget them. As these airlines are not fully owned by Lufthansa (unlike the others, as far as I know) I left them out.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4179 posts, RR: 45 Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2895 times:
What about AF: If you count its regional franchises it gives:
Fokker70
Fokker 100
Bae146
E-120
E-135
E-145
E-190
737-500 (not sure they are still around)
A318
A319
A320
A321
A330
A340-300
772
77W
747-400
soon A380
Regards BM
A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
25 SandroZRH: They have been gone for a long time.
26 ZKEOJ: I am booked on AMS-CGN in April, and CGN-AMS in May next year, so they seem to keep them for a bit longer. just as ell - I like the good old F50s! Ch
27 Someone83: Actually, Wideroe, which is 100% owned by SAS operates the Q400, along wit hthe dash-8 -100 and -300
28 American 767: The last one left the fleet two years ago. Air France no longer flies the 737. Yes, the 757 used to be assembled in Renton where the 707, 727 and Cla
29 Columba: Air Berlin Q400 737-700 737-800 A319 A320 A321 A330 if you add Belair also 757 767 and a few years back they had F100 and 737-300s in that mix as well
30 RootsAir: Thanks for the info! when was. No wonder I haven't seen them in GVA anymore ! Regards BM