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Interesting Flight Paths Today  
User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2658 posts, RR: 6
Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

I see weather is causing some interesting flight paths heading to the northeast... some going way out of their usual flight path.
FLL-ACY out over central Ohio
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NKS262

ATL-LGA out over western Ohio..
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL1786

FLL-EWR over western Ohio..
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/JBU506

looks like airlines burning a little extra fuel flying on the east coast..


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3946 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

Wow.

I wonder if this could be related to my own thread posted just after yours!!?? - BDA Closed All Day? (by RobK Aug 22 2009 in Civil Aviation)

Is the wx really that bad to cancel all flights like that do you think?

R


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7503 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

No, not related to Hurricane Bill and Bermuda. Just a typical US flight pattern when lines of thunderstorms roll across.

Bermuda's closing is not due to the weather being so bad, but rather planning for safety. It is very normal for airports to be closed around the world in anticipation of a hurricane/ typhoon. Much better to be safe and cancel flights than to risk one aircraft IF the weather actually turns out that bad.

Plus, if the weather does turn out that bad, there is no place for the arriving pax to go. The roads in Bermuda would be closed, damaged. There would be no electrical power many places. That's all potentially worst case, but why risk it when in 24 hours the situation will be known.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4366 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

I have seen some strange final approach patterns here in NYC also. I saw few planes come flying North toward lower Manhattan as if they are going to LGA, and take a left turn over the Statue of Liberty and line up for EWR. I haven't seen that before.

User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5323 times:

Some more specific links:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N...2/history/20090822/1833Z/KFLL/KACY

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/D...6/history/20090822/2000Z/KATL/KLGA

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/J...6/history/20090822/1724Z/KFLL/KEWR

Coming from the south, one has to transit Washington Center to get to New York Center, and sometimes, with weather like this, you have to practically (or actually) circumnavigate Washington Center and go via Atlanta, Indy, and Cleveland Centers and enter New York Center from a different direction.


User currently offline744flyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

This is a pretty stupid question, but do those circles on the flightaware maps represent holding patterns??

-Luke


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4366 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4530 times:



Quoting 744flyer (Reply 5):

Yes it does.


User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

It was due to the thunderstorms south of NYC in DC Center and the military was doing excercisies and closed a lot of airspace.

It's a shame that we have to go all the way to CLE to get in line for the NYC airports. But our Air Traffic Control system can't handle planes merging into the congo line.

I wonder what the total extra dollars were for all these reroutes.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4436 times:



Quoting 744flyer (Reply 5):
This is a pretty stupid question, but do those circles on the flightaware maps represent holding patterns??

Yes, and no. The ones on the EWR flight linked above look more like vectors for spacing since the tracks are not in the usual "racetrack" oval shape of a holding pattern, nor were they repeated a second time. Compare the EWR ones with this TUL-HOU flight trying to get into HOU the other day:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S...9/history/20090821/2300Z/KTUL/KHOU

As you can see, he made several turns in a holding pattern, before he had to divert to AUS, that is...


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