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CO Back To IAD  
User currently offlineBACCALA From United States of America, joined May 2009, 133 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8072 times:

Continental Airlines Begins New Nonstop Service From Houston and Cleveland Hubs to Washington Dulles after Nov. 1, 2009, Continental will offer three daily flights from Houston Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) to Dulles and two daily flights from Cleveland Hopkins International Airport (CLE) to Dulles.

Continental Express service from Houston will be operated by ExpressJet using an Embraer regional jet aircraft with 50 seats. The flights from Houston will depart at 7:25 a.m., 10:15 a.m. and 6:50 p.m. Return flights will depart Washington, D.C. at 6:05 a.m., 12:30 p.m. and 2:35 p.m.

Continental Connection flights from Cleveland will be operated by CommutAir using a Bombardier Q200 aircraft with 37 seats. The twice daily flights will depart Cleveland at 3:35 p.m. and 7:15 p.m. Return flights will depart Washington, D.C. at 6:25 a.m. and 5:35 p.m.

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User currently offlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 902 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8021 times:

This is coming just about the time CO is joining STAR so I assume they will use the UA express terminal (A) and UA will ground handle and this will allow connections to UA intl flights that they should be code-sharing on by then


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22734 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8009 times:

I wouldn't be so sure they won't use C or D. I presume that most connecting passengers will leave from C or D, and there's plenty of gate space there for most of the day.


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User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7957 times:

CO never really left IAD. The flights that currently fly EWR-IAD use concourse B.

User currently offlineMnevans From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7887 times:

I'm so glad they brought this back!! Another option to visit family in the DC area without having to drive from Cleveland. Thank you CO!

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7847 times:

XJT is doing handling for CO. Not UA.


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User currently offlinePanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7791 times:

Great! Some more regional jets! That' all we need!

Hope these ExpressJet captains will have learned what to do when diversions take them to Richmond or Harrisburg. By Nov. 1, Commonwealth of Virginia's budget will have limited Richmond operations to a few hours a day; and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, well they have no budget and probably won't have one by then, so don't look for anyone at Harrisburg to help your stranded passengers anytime of the day or night!


User currently offlineSpdBrdConcorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7685 times:

IAH-IAD...on an XR..ooohhh...that is a long RJ trek....

User currently offlineEXCOASA1982 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7672 times:



Quoting Panova98 (Reply 6):
Hope these ExpressJet captains will have learned what to do when diversions take them to Richmond or Harrisburg.

I am sure they will do the same thing they have done the past 5, 6, 7 or however many years xjt has been flying into IAD on the ERJs from EWR.


User currently offlinePanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7457 times:

This regional jet kick, really something!

How long will it be before every single AA, CO, and UA flight between DCA/IAD and Texas--IAH, DFW, and SAT--will be on a regional?

Tell me again why the legacies still exist? Sure, "Our flights operated by ExpressJet, GoJet, Shuttle America, Trans States, whatever, are better than their flights operated by ExpressJet, GoJet, Shuttle America, Trans States, whatever!"

Heaven help us!


User currently offlineGreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7448 times:

how many flights per day did CO have to IAH and CLE before they cut these routes a few months ago? Was the IAH service an ERJ or mainline? And CLE was an ERJ, not a Q200, if I recall correctly.

User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7359 times:
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Quoting SpdBrdConcorde (Reply 7):
IAH-IAD...on an XR..ooohhh...that is a long RJ trek....

Been there -- done that.

CO has been off-and-on at Dulles for years.

I flew the route last year on an XR. Not bad, actually. Except it's 3 hours with no snacks and no buy-on-board food.


User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5372 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7290 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 1):
this will allow connections to UA intl flights that they should be code-sharing on by then

The CLE flights are precisely scheduled for CO connecting banks in CLE; the feed to and from UA at IAD seems serendipitous.



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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 7249 times:

Gee, IAD-IAH and no 737 service? Com'on CO you can do better.


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7142 times:



Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 13):

it was a combo of both mainline and xpress.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 7039 times:



Quoting Panova98 (Reply 9):
How long will it be before every single AA, CO, and UA flight between DCA/IAD and Texas--IAH, DFW, and SAT--will be on a regional?

UA has mainline between IAH and IAD right now. It is twice daily with usually one of the flights an express 170 but the mainline rotates between 733 to 319 to 320 depending on the days.



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User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5112 times:
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Quoting KGAIflyer (Reply 11):
flew the route last year on an XR. Not bad, actually. Except it's 3 hours with no snacks and no buy-on-board food.

All the flights from IAH should have meal snacks & from IAD the same with the exception of the 2:35pm but since it's longer, maybe they will have something catered on this flight.


User currently offlineKGAIflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5062 times:
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Quoting LACA773 (Reply 16):
All the flights from IAH should have meal snacks & from IAD the same with the exception of the 2:35pm but since it's longer, maybe they will have something catered on this flight.

Yeah, should've / could've / would've.

My understanding is that the XR doesn't have an oven
So I guess it would be a cold snack.  cold 


User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5051 times:

Quoting Panova98 (Reply 9):
This regional jet kick, really something!

How long will it be before every single AA, CO, and UA flight between DCA/IAD and Texas--IAH, DFW, and SAT--will be on a regional?

Tell me again why the legacies still exist? Sure, "Our flights operated by ExpressJet, GoJet, Shuttle America, Trans States, whatever, are better than their flights operated by ExpressJet, GoJet, Shuttle America, Trans States, whatever!"

Heaven help us!


Is there any point to your posts other than to be a derisive jackass? If you don't want to fly the route on an RJ, don't buy any tickets. Seriously.......

[Edited 2009-08-24 23:49:46]

User currently offlineIaddca From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

I'll stick to the DCA-IAH flights, even if there's a premium. No way I'll ride an RJ that far.

User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 950 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

I predict that it will be mainline to IAH by next summer if not earlier. Once the Star alliance is in full swing with code shares and all I think we will see an upgrade. At least from Houston. Either that or more frequencies.

User currently offlinePanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3859 times:



Quoting KAUSpilot (Reply 18):
If you don't want to fly the route on an RJ, don't buy any tickets. Seriously.......

Motion made and seconded, and having already made known my feelings, I stand down on commenting further on matters regional!

Regarding CO starting IAD flights, including to IAH, I see that UA again (effective Oct. 1) has the annual Federal Gov't city-pair contract (YCA fare) between IAD and IAH. Likewise to SAT and AUS from IAD. [AA has the DFW contract.] I would think the government employee/contractor business is a big part of these routes.

Since CO has recently stepped away from bidding on the government contracts [for reasons unclear to me], but is now coming back to IAD, I wonder if it has changed its mind about bidding on government city-pairs. Or, will it simply float non-capacity-controlled general public fares (Y) that anyone can use, government included, to try to take away the business from UA?


User currently offlineGreenair727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3851 times:



Quoting Panova98:
Regarding CO starting IAD flights, including to IAH, I see that UA again (effective Oct. 1) has the annual Federal Gov't city-pair contract (YCA fare) between IAD and IAH.

Panova98---is there a list somewhere of all the routes under the Federal contract? Thanks.


User currently offlinePanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3835 times:



Quoting Greenair727 (Reply 23):
Panova98---is there a list somewhere of all the routes under the Federal contract? Thanks.

They're at www.gsa.gov. Look down at the left under Federal Travel resources and go from there.

All contract routes/fares/airlines, domestic and international, non-capacity-controlled and capacity-controlled, current year (fiscal year 2009) and upcoming (Oct. 1) year (fiscal year 2010) are listed.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3776 times:



Quoting Panova98 (Reply 9):
How long will it be before every single AA, CO, and UA flight between DCA/IAD and Texas--IAH, DFW, and SAT--will be on a regional?

DFW-IAD on AA will always be at least mostly mainline.



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25 SHUPirate1 : I remember about five years ago, when there was no United service between IAH and IAD at all. Does anybody remember the exact start date?
26 CALMSP : maybe 3 years ago????
27 Post contains links ExFATboy : Well, since RIC is operated by an independent commission and is fully self sustaining, the Virginia budget won't affect it at all. Harrisburg is run
28 KGAIflyer : I would guess that it's possible that CO will do at IAD what they did at ORD. At ORD, CO has moved into UA's B concourse. At IAD there is room for CO'
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