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Land Of World Class Sprinters..Jamaican Thread 18  
User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14319 times:
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Taking our success to the world..

"The performance of our athletes at the Berlin games and the victories they have brought to our country almost on a daily basis, confirm that this country is destined for greatness. We are blessed, our people are blessed and we now need to translate this energy, this determination, discipline and drive, into all spheres of our lives."
Bruce Golding, Aug09..



Welcome to our 18th thread...This past week, the top class performance of our national athletes in Berlin has seen a stark increase in tourism related business....Mr Bartlett and his team are curently in Berlin taking advantage of this memorable occassion....



With this new publicity, Jamaica will definitely see an increase in arrivals from Europe and South America..
Earlier this year, the following were announced as flights for the winter from South and Central America
1.AV serving BOG-MBJ..Route was served this winter..
2.CM operating PTY-MBJ..
3.Tame is now operating Quito to MBJ flights..Rotations will run into the winter season..Flights are operated on behalf of Maxitravel..
4.LA serving SCL-MBJ with connections from EZE..
5.An unnamed carrier from Brazil, serving either GRU or GIG..
Viamerica is operating flights via LIM to MBJ..Flights are operated by TAME..

Hopefully, we will have more info on these developments, by the end of this thread..



On recent aviation news for Jamaica..

Winter will see an increase in charters serving YYZ-KIN..Air Transat, Sky service and Sunwings will offer weekly services alongside scheduled services from JM and AC..

AA will increase MIA-KIN to four daily starting June 2010..

Skylan Jamaica has taken to the skies..They are currently using a BAE32EP serving MBJ-KIN..Plans are in place to acquire a second aircraft..



We wait with a bated breath the final decision on JM divestment...

http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/lawrencelaw/2009juneandjuly030.jpg

Lets celebrate our success..




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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14304 times:

Aptly titled thread, as Team Jamaica continues to sprint into history.

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
Winter will see an increase in charters serving YYZ-KIN..Air Transat, Sky service and Sunwings will offer weekly services alongside scheduled services from JM and AC..


Is AC also planning on increasing frequencies on YYZ-KIN, as I recall reading at some point?



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14262 times:

Air Jamaica planes leased

'' He said usually Air Jamaica leases planes for a day or two and at present the airline has no sub-leases.

The Air Jamaica president said the airline is operating with high load factors at this time with strong demand on its routes.

Earlier this year the airline announced that it would be returning some leased aircraft while reducing its fleet from 15 to between nine and seven. ''

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=11938


Government yet to announce successful bidder for Air Jamaica


'' The government is yet to make an announcement regarding the successful bidder for the national airline.

The Divestment Committee set up to sell Air Jamaica has made its recommendations regarding an investor for the cash strapped airline to Cabinet, which was expected to discuss the matter from late last month.

Last year the government appointed International Finance Corporation (IFC) the private sector arm of the World Bank Group to serve as lead advisors on the divestment project.

Its understood that no local investors have expressed an interest in acquiring the airline.

The government has said that a major aim of the privatization effort is to ease the burden on the national budget of the over US$150 million per annum in losses by the airline.

Its been estimated that Air Jamaica’s current loans amount to more than US$600 million. ''

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=11937


Berlin to boost Jamaica’s tourism

'' Tourism minister Edmund Bartlett said the performance of Jamaica’s athletes at the World Championships in Berlin, Germany will boost the local tourism.

According to Mr Bartlett, the tourism ministry and organizers of the World
Championship went all out to capitalize on the athlete’s performance by
mounting booths to promote Jamaican products.

The Tourism Minister said he and Jamaica Tourist Board chairman John Lynch, met with German travel agents to discuss strategies to attract more Germans to Jamaica.

Germany is Jamaica’s second strongest tourism market in Europe behind
Britain.

Figures from the Tourist Board show a 4 per cent jump in arrivals from that of Germany in 2008. ''

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=11946

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):

Where is the photo of Bridgett Foster ?

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
2.CM operating PTY-MBJ..

If flight schedules allow this would allow for connections from key South American cities into MBJ via PTY. Hopefully we will see CM back in MBJ this winter.

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
On recent aviation news for Jamaica..

Of note as well is BA's return to MBJ from LGW, DL's and B6's entry into the JFK-KIN market, VS's increase on LGW-MBJ come winter, and US's PHX-MBJ inaugural. Interesting winter ahead.

Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
Taking our success to the world..



Quoting LimaMike (Reply 1):
Aptly titled thread, as Team Jamaica continues to sprint into history.



Quoting HummingBird (Thread starter):
Lets celebrate our success..

Impressive .........................

 champagne   thumbsup 



greenheart
User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 14176 times:
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Quoting LimaMike (Reply 1):
Aptly titled thread, as Team Jamaica continues to sprint into history.



Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
Impressive .........................


This is even more impressive, Bolt being given a piece of the Berlin Wall...Taking it to de World..
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/new...rlds-bolt-berlin&prov=ap&type=lgns

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
Where is the photo of Bridgett Foster ?

My bad..But here you go!



Quoting LimaMike (Reply 1):
Is AC also planning on increasing frequencies on YYZ-KIN, as I recall reading at some point?

There are talks of having an additional flight that will see 4 weekly for the summer..AC will keep it's 2 weekly service for the winter..

For the first two weeks, most of these charter carriers will be full on the southbound leg and hal full on the return..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
If flight schedules allow this would allow for connections from key South American cities into MBJ via PTY. Hopefully we will see CM back in MBJ this winter.

It will also be easier for Central Americans to use the PTY hub...I can't wait to see CM's return to MBJ..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
Of note as well is BA's return to MBJ from LGW, DL's and B6's entry into the JFK-KIN market, VS's increase on LGW-MBJ come winter, and US's PHX-MBJ inaugural. Interesting winter ahead.

I believe Mr Bartlett will make more announcements for the winter...I am expecting to see a Russian carrier in the mix...
BA will be making a killing on their flights to MBJ based on the recent sports success..I imagine their premium cabins will be full..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
'' He said usually Air Jamaica leases planes for a day or two and at present the airline has no sub-leases.

The Air Jamaica president said the airline is operating with high load factors at this time with strong demand on its routes.

Earlier this year the airline announced that it would be returning some leased aircraft while reducing its fleet from 15 to between nine and seven. ''

This report does not come as a surprise..We have been following JM flights all summer..These NA/ Miami Air and USA 3000 are justifiable, based on the scenario where JM's aircraft were not available due to maintenance reasons..I commend the management staff for their quick actions in ensuring pax faced minimum delays in getting to their destination...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 2):
According to Mr Bartlett, the tourism ministry and organizers of the World
Championship went all out to capitalize on the athlete's performance by
mounting booths to promote Jamaican products.

The Tourism Minister said he and Jamaica Tourist Board chairman John Lynch, met with German travel agents to discuss strategies to attract more Germans to Jamaica.

Germany should see a huge increase..Currently we have De who serves FRA nonstop on Thurs..LTU flight is shared with Dominican Republic..They operate on Sat..



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14166 times:
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B6 to add MCO-MBJ and BOS-MBJ next year...

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 4):
In addition to its two new Montego Bay routes, JetBlue also plans to increase service on its existing route between Montego Bay and New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport over the winter holidays, offering up to 11 weekly flights on this popular route. As previously announced, JetBlue also intends to begin flights between New York and Kingston, Jamaica commencing Oct. 30, 2009.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/JetBlu...re-prnews-3711134852.html?x=0&.v=1

[Edited 2009-08-25 09:44:24]


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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 14150 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 4):
B6 to add MCO-MBJ and BOS-MBJ next year...

As expected. It was only a matter of time before B6 announce these routes. Only slight surprise is the 1x weekly (Sat) BOS frequency. Nonetheless, great news as MBJ 's "New Routes" list keeps growing!



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 14102 times:
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Quoting LimaMike (Reply 5):
Only slight surprise is the 1x weekly (Sat) BOS frequency.

I expect once the economy recovers, we may see up to 4 weekly..This past winter season US operated the MBJ-BOS route on a seasonal basis..

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 5):
Nonetheless, great news as MBJ 's "New Routes" list keeps growing!

More news..Air Tran wants to start scheduled services from ATL, MCO and BWI to MBJ..

DL will have more competition from ATL..A major boost for the tourism industry..
This ATL service was announced last year in one of your threads..

BWI comes as a shock, but still good news..

MCO is an even bigger shock..Lets see how well B6 and Air Tran will stimulate the market..



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 14043 times:
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An update:

040 diverted to FLL yesterday..The aircraft arrived in MBJ this morning..
NA operated flight 14/15 today..
The aircraft that operated flight #83, returned to KIN...Flight #82 for tommorrow is cancelled..Pax who were booked on #82 are now being re-routed through ATL, MIA and FLL...UM will be transported on NK..Flight #80 will operate as scheduled..



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 14018 times:

Air Jamaica divestment to cost US$200 million

'' Prime Minister Bruce Golding has disclosed that it will cost the government close to US$200 million to divest the national airline.

The recommendation of the committee set up to carry out the divestment process has been before Cabinet since last month.

However Mr Golding who was speaking at a Gleaner Editor’s Forum this afternoon, indicated that the current fiscal challenges have had some impact on the process.

The prime minister pointed to the cost as a major factor in the divestment process.

Mr Golding said the government will be faced with redundancy payments as well as outstanding bills owed by the airline. ''

http://go-jamaica.com/news/read_article.php?id=11981


JTB revs up marketing for winter season


'' Turning to Latin America, the JTB will conduct seminars in Bogota, Colombia, and Santiago, Chile, during the month of November. Trade shows are slated for Argentina, Brazil and Mexico.

In the United Kingdom and Europe, the JTB has a busy schedule, again concentrating on tour operators and travel agents. These two regions will join with the US and Canada for a massive radio station remote programme airing from Jamaica, involving 50 stations between November 1 and 15. A highlight coming out of the UK/Europe market will be the renewal of British Airways service to Montego Bay, starting October 29, said the release. ''


http://hospitalityjamaica.com/news1.html


'' BA offers discount to passengers from Jamaica

British Airways (BA) announced yesterday passengers from Jamaica to London and Europe would be offered major price reductions on airfare for travel starting next month.

The company said it was offering a range of special fares in all cabins for ticket purchases from August 25 through September 6, 2009 for outbound travel between September 15 and December 30, 2009.

Noting that Caribbean travellers often use the post-summer period to visit London and Europe, BA Commercial Manager Caribbean, Diane Corrie, said: "British Airways is pleased to offer attractive prices that will give our customers the opportunity to connect on a face-to-face basis with both loved ones and business associates overseas."

Corrie noted that fares from Jamaica to London start from as low as US$300 and are applicable on any of British Airways' three weekly flights from Kingston as well as twice weekly flights from Montego Bay, which start on October 29, 2009. Special fares to London and Europe are also available in the World Traveller Plus (premium economy) and Club World (business class) cabins. Taxes and fees are additional.

British Airways will increase its current 11 Caribbean destinations to 13 this winter, and is the international airline serving the most gateways in the region from the United Kingdom, said the company in its release. ''

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/magaz...UNT_TO_PASSENGERS_FROM_JAMAICA.asp

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 3):
This report does not come as a surprise..We have been following JM flights all summer..These NA/ Miami Air and USA 3000 are justifiable, based on the scenario where JM's aircraft were not available due to maintenance reasons..I commend the management staff for their quick actions in ensuring pax faced minimum delays in getting to their destination...

Agree. I think they handled the situations professionally and expiditiously in the best way they possibly could.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 3):
Currently we have De who serves FRA nonstop on Thurs

This flight operate year round right ?

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 4):
B6 to add MCO-MBJ and BOS-MBJ next year...

Thought we would have seen services from FLL before BOS & MCO.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 6):
More news..Air Tran wants to start scheduled services from ATL, MCO and BWI to MBJ..

DL will have more competition from ATL..A major boost for the tourism industry..
This ATL service was announced last year in one of your threads..

BWI comes as a shock, but still good news..

MCO is an even bigger shock..Lets see how well B6 and Air Tran will stimulate the market..

I read about Air Tran's interest in MBJ from ATL in the past as well outside of our previous threads. So DL will finally have some competition on one of JM's former routes. Didn't see BWI - MBJ coming from Air Tran. More so MCO. 3 carriers on MCO-MBJ. Interesting, though I guess both B6 and Air Tran's main focus will be on the leisure traffic out of BOS & ATL respectively.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 7):
040 diverted to FLL yesterday..The aircraft arrived in MBJ this morning..
NA operated flight 14/15 today..
The aircraft that operated flight #83, returned to KIN...Flight #82 for tommorrow is cancelled..Pax who were booked on #82 are now being re-routed through ATL, MIA and FLL...UM will be transported on NK..Flight #80 will operate as scheduled..

Was at Norman Manley Airport today. Cousin left on JM 037 to FLL. I did see NA's arrival in the evening. Also saw when JM 083 departed. Why did 040 divert to FLL yesterday ? Medical emergency or mechanical ?



greenheart
User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 13955 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
The prime minister pointed to the cost as a major factor in the divestment process.

Mr Golding said the government will be faced with redundancy payments as well as outstanding bills owed by the airline.

In today's Gleaner, he mentioned staff redundancy cost will total $30 million..He also mentioned there are leases that will be terminated..

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090826/lead/lead5.html

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
'' Turning to Latin America, the JTB will conduct seminars in Bogota, Colombia, and Santiago, Chile, during the month of November. Trade shows are slated for Argentina, Brazil and Mexico.

I wonder if we will see a new carrier operating Mexico-Jamaica flights?

Blue Panaroma from Italy will increase it's Jamaica services..

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090826/lead/lead11.html

In the United Kingdom and Europe, the JTB has a busy schedule, again concentrating on tour operators and travel agents. These two regions will join with the US and Canada for a massive radio station remote programme airing from Jamaica, involving 50 stations between November 1 and 15. A highlight coming out of the UK/Europe market will be the renewal of British Airways service to Montego Bay, starting October 29, said the release. ''

Impressive...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
Corrie noted that fares from Jamaica to London start from as low as US$300 and are applicable on any of British Airways' three weekly flights from Kingston as well as twice weekly flights from Montego Bay, which start on October 29, 2009. Special fares to London and Europe are also available in the World Traveller Plus (premium economy) and Club World (business class) cabins. Taxes and fees are additional.

Not bad....

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
Agree. I think they handled the situations professionally and expiditiously in the best way they possibly could.

Agree...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
This flight operate year round right ?

Yes..During the 90s they operated two flights on Thursdays..

I expect ED to mention the new TUI flights by next month..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
Thought we would have seen services from FLL

Hopefully, by the Spring of 2010..I question where B6 will accommodate these new FLL services as the airport is currently saturated..I can't imagine the immigration hall during the mid-day/afternoon rush..

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
I read about Air Tran's interest in MBJ from ATL in the past as well outside of our previous threads. So DL will finally have some competition on one of JM's former routes. Didn't see BWI - MBJ coming from Air Tran. More so MCO. 3 carriers on MCO-MBJ. Interesting, though I guess both B6 and Air Tran's main focus will be on the leisure traffic out of BOS & ATL respectively.

There is room for a new carrier from BWI..Their low cost model will definitely stimulate the market..

If DL maintains it's winter frequencies, we will see up to 4 daily flight from ATL...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 8):
Why did 040 divert to FLL yesterday ? Medical emergency or mechanical ?

Mechanical..
NA is doing 18/15/14/17..
Another A320 was ferried from JFK this morning..

Usain Bolt flew business class on SR from Berlin to Zurich..
http://www.iaaf.org/GLE09/news/newsid=54105.html

[Edited 2009-08-26 07:23:47]


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 12 months 11 hours ago) and read 13933 times:
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In an effort to increase tourism revenue, The JTB is now targeting the local market..

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/tools/breakingnews/bnm.asp?bn=2374

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):

He added that in the first month, the loads were greater than 75 per cent and he, throughout the summer, was expecting the loads to exceed 80 per cent.

"This is certainly strongest launch in the region," he explained, noting that the airline flies to other Caribbean countries including St Maarten, Aruba, Puerto Rico, The Bahamas and the Dominican Republic

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090826/lead/lead11.html

If B6 can manage to have a successful launch operations at 70%, we can assume the break even load on it's JFK-MBJ flights ranges in the 40-50%....



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 13889 times:
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More details of AirTran services to Jamaica..

August 25, 2009

Application for an Exemption

AirTran proposes to initiate daily service between BWI-MBJ and ATL-MBJ and four-day per week service between MCO-MBJ starting on or about February 11, 2010 or such later date within 90 days thereof as may be required for obtaining all governmental authorizations. AirTran will utilize B-737-700 aircraft configured with 137 seats or for service between BWI-MBJ, ATL-MBJ and MCO-MBJ.

The ATL-MBJ nonstops will depart ATL at 0930 hours, arriving Montego Bay at 1130 hours. The MBJ-ATL nonstops will depart Montego Bay at 1230 hours, arriving ATL at 1630 hours. The times of departure and arrival for service from BWI, ATL and MCO to/from Jamaica are local times. Specific flight times are subject to Jamaica Airport approval.

The BWI-MBJ nonstops will depart Baltimore at 0840 hours, arriving at Montego Bay at 1125 hours. The MBJ-BWI nonstops will depart Montego Bay at 1215 hours, arriving Baltimore at 1700 hours.

The MCO-MBJ nonstop will depart Meo at 1310 hours, arriving Montego Bay at 1410 hours. The MBJ-MCO nonstops will depart Montego Bay at 1215 arriving at Orlando at 1800.

AirTran requests that the exemption be granted for a period of two years or until the Department takes final action on its certificate application for the issuance of a certificate of public convenience and necessity for foreign combination service.


http://airlineinfo.com/ostpdf75/11.pdf



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User currently offlineAirJamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13803 times:

Interesting letter here to the editor. Some how I knew they would mention JM in it. Where the staff compliment is concerned at JM I see a mix of both dark/light skinned women. From I was a child people have been on this subject matter with our national carrier. Honestly I don't see where its close to 100% fair skinned women that work there.

'' Why then are we inundated with people who do not look like the majority of Jamaicans at places such as Air Jamaica front desks? Has anyone ever noticed that the Air Jamaica stewardess complement is close to 100 per cent light-skinned, hence is not representative of the majority of Jamaicans? ''

http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090827/letters/letters4.html

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
I wonder if we will see a new carrier operating Mexico-Jamaica flights?

Quite possibly.

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 10):
In an effort to increase tourism revenue, The JTB is now targeting the local market..



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 9):
In the United Kingdom and Europe, the JTB has a busy schedule, again concentrating on tour operators and travel agents. These two regions will join with the US and Canada for a massive radio station remote programme airing from Jamaica, involving 50 stations between November 1 and 15

Very good initiatives that should reap success.



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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 13732 times:
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Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 12):
'' Why then are we inundated with people who do not look like the majority of Jamaicans at places such as Air Jamaica front desks? Has anyone ever noticed that the Air Jamaica stewardess complement is close to 100 per cent light-skinned, hence is not representative of the majority of Jamaicans? ''

According to our motto, "out of many, one people"...

Quoting AirJamaica (Reply 12):
Very good initiatives that should reap success.

Personally, I would love to see MBJ having nonstop flights from Switzerland, Scandanavia and Russia..Potential markets, that has huge disposable incomes...

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11):

Prior to these flights, Air Tran will be operating charter flights from BOS,BWI and MKE to MBJ at the start of the winter sesaon..



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Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 13686 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 11):

American low-cost carriers are battling for a share of the Caribbean market, and Jamaica in particular.

JetBlue Airways, which already has a foot hold in the region with up to 71 daily flights to Caribbean destinations, and AirTran Airways both made requests on Tuesday to begin new services in Jamaica.

But AirTran is hoping that it too can get a piece of the Jamaica tourism pie and a slice of what others in the wider region are sharing up as well. It has filed applications with the United States Department of Transportation to fly to Montego Bay, Jamaica; Nassau, Bahamas; and Aruba

"Adding our low-cost, high-quality service from some of our largest operations to some of the most popular destinations in the Caribbean is a win-win for consumers and for AirTran Airways," said Kevin Healy, senior vice president, marketing and planning

http://caribbean360.com/News/Busines...ies/2009/08/27/NEWS0000008634.html



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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6089 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13634 times:

The big looser on this JetBlue / Airtran / Delta war might be JM....


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 13607 times:
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Good news for Latin America traffic..

Viamerica plans to increase Ecuadorian charters to Ja..
http://jamaicaobserver.com/westernne...EASE_ECUADORIAN_CHARTERS_TO_JA.asp

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 15):
The big looser on this JetBlue / Airtran / Delta war might be JM....

The fight will be amongst themselves...You will see when further announcements are made in this regard..



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User currently offlineA340Jamaica From Jamaica, joined Nov 2008, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 13549 times:



Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 15):
The big looser on this JetBlue / Airtran / Delta war might be JM....

Have to agree!!! Everbody smelled the opportunity once JM started downsizing earlier this year and its general state of uncertainty and are now jumping. Let's see what comes of all this interest. At least we should not be left with expensive airfares which was my big fear all along.I don't think Orlando can support two much less three carriers even with Embraers but we will see. JM may be able to hold its own from BWI if they are nimble. But then again, if Spirit is the winning entity, JM may cease to be a feasible proposition as I have stated before on numerous occasions. They will not get my support!!


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Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 13455 times:
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Quoting A340Jamaica (Reply 17):
At least we should not be left with expensive airfares which was my big fear all along

With the flood of LCCs on the route, the fares will become more affordable....With more direct competition from certain markets, the legacies will see a decline in their yields...

Quoting A340Jamaica (Reply 17):
I don't think Orlando can support two much less three carriers even with Embraers but we will see



Quoting A340Jamaica (Reply 17):
But then again, if Spirit is the winning entity, JM may cease to be a feasible proposition as I have stated before on numerous occasions

Believe me, "the writing is on the wall"...I dont think we will ever see 3 carriers on the route..Even if it happens, we may see the pullout of one competitor within 3-6 months of operation...We have posted the stats for MCO..MCO is not a route that can accommodate 3 carriers...In soft season JM averages 60-75% and they operate 5 flights per week..I believe these new routes are a testament of what will be happening within the next 2-4 months....Imagine what we may see on the KIN-FLL legs..

US has now updated their website with the new MBJ-PHX service..

http://www.usairways.com/awa/Content/tr
avelplanning/planning/destinations/phx-
montegobay.aspx?c=hp_txt_00710

[Edited 2009-08-29 13:04:00]


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Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 13383 times:
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Quoting HummingBird (Reply 18):
Sources say the airline has already been sold to Indigo Partners LLC and Oaktree Capital Management LLC, which are connected to Spirit Airlines.


Indigo Partners, which has offices in Phoenix, Arizona and Singapore, is a privately-held equities fund with an annual turnover of between US$2.5 million and US$5.0 million.

Meanwhile, analysts say that executives from Indigo Partners and Oaktree Capital Management were in the island conducting due diligence last week, while executives from Caribbean Airlines, which is also competing to buy the loss-making carrier conducted their due diligence during the previous week

The divestment team, led by Wehby and which includes, Dennis Lalor, recently made a recommendation to cabinet in relation to the sale of the airline to the Indigo, Oaktree, Spirit combination and Caribbean Airlines.

In a release before his departure from the finance ministry, Wehby stressed that a final recommendation was made to Cabinet with the help of experts from the International Finance Corporation (IFC), the private sector arm of the World Bank

Spirit recently announced the completion of a strategic investment partnership with Indigo and Oaktree to acquire Air Jamaica and rename it the Spirit of Jamaica. This investment it contended, would enable it to consolidate its position as the leading low-cost carrier to the Caribbean, while pursuing its long- term growth strategy.

http://www.sunheraldja.com/2009/08/air-j-could-cost-taxpayers-more/



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User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13290 times:

"Sources say the airline has already been sold to Indigo Partners LLC and Oaktree Capital Management LLC, which are connected to Spirit Airlines."

If this is indeed true, it means the end of Air Jamaica. Spirit is pure garbage and here is current example why I say this.

Just returned from a quick overnight FLL to PAP, yesterday Aug 29th to today Aug 30th, date of this posting. Yesterday afternoon was checking in at FLL for the PAP flight departing at 315pm with Spirit. It was about 1pm and over 70 people were on line for the international check in area of Spirit at FLL. Many were for Spirit 220pm simultaneous separate departures for both Montego Bay and Kingston . Again for over 20 minutes there was only one NK agent at the international counter area. People were furious. Finally after the 20 minutes, 6 NK agents showed up. Guess what! They were all at lunch!!! And to add insult to injury to the MBJ and KIN passengers, PAP passengers, whose flight was leaving almost an hour later were told to get to the right side of the lane and were taken first for check-in. Go figure! As a PAP passenger, I had no complaint but I really felt for the MBJ/KIN crowd. Their flight is leaving in alittle over an hour and they are made to wait for check-in over PAP passengers whose flight
leaves in 2 hours!

I hope the new reports of the Indigo Group (Spirit) being the succesful candidate are surely false. My experience yesterday with Spirit only reinforces what I've long felt. such a takeover means the end of the Air Jamaica we've known and loved for 40 years

JMBWEEBOY


User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6089 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 13140 times:

As I have said before....the lesser of 2 evils is CAL....at least they MIGHT care


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User currently offlineHummingBird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 13128 times:
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Quoting Jmbweeboy (Reply 20):
I hope the new reports of the Indigo Group (Spirit) being the succesful candidate are surely false. My experience yesterday with Spirit only reinforces what I've long felt. such a takeover means the end of the Air Jamaica we've known and loved for 40 years

Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Spirit...

I doubt the NK mentality will become a part of this new venture...Indigo Group are the investors, who will partner with the GOJ on this venture...In such a fragile market, the new owners will do their utmost best to maintain guest loyalty...
Indigo Partner are shareholders in successful LCCs as Wizz Air, Tiger Airways, Tiger Airways Australia and Mandala Aviation..I believe the NK experience is quite extreme and is in a class by itself..

Quoting Yellowtail (Reply 21):
As I have said before....the lesser of 2 evils is CAL....at least they MIGHT care

If things were done properly from the beginning we would not be left with this dire situation..

Lets face reality..Do you think CAL is able to hold it's fort against the North American carriers?
What benefits will CAl bring to the tourism industry?..As previously stated, the tourism stakeholders have no interest in the CAL bid...If CAl were to acquire JM, we will eventually see the North American carriers flooding the Jamaican market...

[Edited 2009-08-31 12:07:34]


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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6089 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 13097 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 22):
Do you think CAL is able to hold it's fort against the North American carriers?

Arn't they in T&T right now? In fact gaining ground...

Quoting HummingBird (Reply 22):
What benefits will CAl bring to the tourism industry?

Same question for indigo...

Remember I said the lesser of 2 EVILS....



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User currently offlineJmbweeboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 266 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 13073 times:



Quoting HummingBird (Reply 22):

"Lets face reality..Do you think CAL is able to hold it's fort against the North American carriers?
What benefits will CAl bring to the tourism industry?..As previously stated, the tourism stakeholders have no interest in the CAL bid...If CAl were to acquire JM, we will eventually see the North American carriers flooding the Jamaican market..."


Can I respectfully say Hummingbird you are not speaking of reality. CAL has held its own quite well against DL in the POS-JFK market and of course threw Spirit out of town on the POS-FLL rroute too. They are a traditional full service product that is head over heels 10 times better than Spirit. Does the GOJ and the people of Jamaica not have any concern over the image that their "flag carrier" maintains abroad ? CAL's experience with the VFR market would surely helb a rebranded JM maintain that important segment. And granted while CAL has minimal experience in the tourism market, neither does Spirit. There is an animal called Spirit Vacations but it is a token operation of zero signifigance.

It would be naive to think Indigo would not operate a "Spirit of Jamaica" with the same business model they operate Spirit Airlines (whose existence is ever increasingly threatened by the more upscale Jet Blue at FLL). And "upscale" is an important word for as the Jamaican tourism product increasingly includes more and more 4-5 star properties, would a "Spirit of Jamaica be consistent with that ? I don't think so!

This is ultimately all about pride and resentment of possible Trini ownership by CAL. Is that prejudice so ingrown Jamaica will just take any other garbage outfit that comes along like Indigo/Spirit ?

Sort of like "penny wise, pound foolish ?"!

JMBWEEBOY


25 Yellowtail : Agree 100% Pride is good in any country. But faced with the choice of a Caribbean ownership of JM or a Spirit one....I know which one I would choose.
26 HummingBird : Firstly, to clarify a situation..It is Indigo Partners/Singaporeans and The GOJ who are having this discussion to acquire JM...NK is not acquiring JM
27 A340Jamaica : Let me chime in here. Since it seems that Spirit is the winning entity, in my opinion, that is it for JM. Certainly in my book, that's it. CAL would h
28 Caymanair : Somehow it seems to me that none of you really think JM can survive if it is sold. You won't offer your support to a new JM under either Spirit or Car
29 Beeweel15 : Am I missing something but dont they they flood the market now and get some good perks from the JM government.
30 Trintocan : Wow, we seem to be having a debate here! Indigo Group vs BW for ownership of JM. I'll start by saying that when considering Indigo Group, we are effec
31 AA1818 : I have read the debate and have thoroughly enjoyed the civility with thich it has been conducted thurs far. I think we have to go a little deeper and
32 Post contains links AirJamaica : A writer states their opinion re the JM Divestment...................... Air J divestment Tuesday, September 01, 2009 Dear Editor, The Jamaican Govern
33 Yellowtail : I love good civil debates...congrats to all...we seem to have learnt for our past mistakes
34 Jmbweeboy : First, I think it is great we are all having a civil and polite debate. I realize we are dealing primarily with national pride of 2 great nations, Jam
35 HummingBird : I agree, but I think the mere fact we will have Jamaican crews on board will make up for the negative perception people have of the NK-esque service.
36 AirJamaica : Myself is quite pleased that everyone has stated their opinions on the subject without all the '' drama '' ........However : There is absolutely no n
37 Post contains links AirJamaica : MBJ Airport seeks to revise AIF drawing terms, passenger fee structure '' He said that in today's competitive environment a few dollar difference in f
38 HummingBird : Eventually, we will have to get accustomed to the new name.....The Spirit of Jamaica is a familiar term that has been used with JM's dedicated aircra
39 Post contains images SCL767 : The PTVs will certainly make up for no hot towels and a full meal service set on industrial china on short sector flights e.g. MCO-MBJ and FLL-KIN. B
40 HummingBird : However, it still does not make it an "upscale carrier"..If we want to define what carriers are upscale look at example such as EK, VS,BA, EY and QR.
41 A340jamaica : PTVs are way overrated, especially on relatively short flights and where for half the flight, they don't work anyway because you are outside the sate
42 HummingBird : Agree.. Correct It is understandable, but at this point we have our hands tied to our back.. Hopefully we will hear more details by Sept 12, 2009..
43 SCL767 : Exactly, since they will not be based in the U.S. the crews will be considered Foreign Nationals. No it wasn't taken earlier this summer, it was take
44 Jmbweeboy : To my fellow A.Netters on this thread I would make the following suggestions: 1. Spend some time living in Broward County (Fort Lauderdale), Spirit's
45 Post contains links HummingBird : Be that as it may, those two aircraft has been at MIA since the end of spring..They were sent as a part of the cost cutting measures..Other posters h
46 Post contains links AirJamaica : Both BOS & EWR were costly airports for JM's operations. It would have been great if JM still had operations there but I am in full support of them f
47 A340Jamaica : I doubt, assuming JM stays around in some form B6 will repeat the MBJ performance at KIN, especially after the novelty wears off in a year or so. The
48 BW424 : And why can't this exact theory be applied to a CAL/JM amalgamation?? You have stated in previous postings that Jamaicans will despise BW's ownership
49 Caymanair : Just as a point of information... JM under AJAG/Gordon Stewart was very much an upmarket carrier with impeccable service akin to any of todays upmarke
50 HummingBird : I agree.. That is the advantage they have over NK and AA on the route.... Mission accomplished....In December there will be more available seats from
51 Post contains links HummingBird : Mr. Golding informed the Senator that Jamaica was very interested in entering into agreements with Brazilian airlines to use Jamaica as a transit poin
52 Bloodyrascal : Here is Airtrans schedule to MBJ The following nonstop flights to and from Montego Bay will begin on February 11, 2010: From To Flight Departs Arrives
53 AA1818 : They are really going after JM territory aggressively. MCO and BWI I believe were routes JM had an absolute or a virtual monopoly on! They are also a
54 Jmbweeboy : doubt, assuming JM stays around in some form B6 will repeat the MBJ performance at KIN, especially after the novelty wears off in a year or so. The c
55 Post contains links HummingBird : Tourism Up 3.7% Despite the negative impact of the global recession on world tourism, Jamaica's tourism sector has grown by 3.7 per cent since the sta
56 AA1818 : I assume this route is very leisure based for JM. This may be a fierce battle. How low will Air Tran go. The Jamaica travelling public may benefit fr
57 HummingBird : MCO is a mixture of both, but it has a heavier VFR presence..MCO alongside CUR and GND are JM's highest revenue earners for excess baggage..Air Tran
58 Post contains links HummingBird : 70,000 new air seats this winter.. The additional airlift was secured by Jamaica's tourism delegation during and after the athletics World Championshi
59 AirJamaica : NK operated MCO-MBJ for a ( very short ) period as well in the past. When US had a larger presence in BWI they served ( or was planning to serve ) BW
60 Yellowtail : Overall...seems like WN, B6, Airtran, CO, AA and DL are all thinking the same....lets get US out of business.....
61 HummingBird : I remember the MCO-MBJ route on their horrible MD87s... US operated MBJ-BWI in the past...I remember those days when US operated their B737, B757 and
62 Post contains links AirJamaica : How long did NK operate MCO-MBJ and what was their frequency like ? I guess they thought they would have easily derailed JM on that route but it didn
63 LimaMike : Yes, this would be the first E190 route for US into MBJ. US currently operates PHL-MBJ daily with A319/A320, so the E190 5x weekly would definitely b
64 Post contains links HummingBird : I think it was less than a year...It was 4 weekly... CLT will operate daily and 2x daily on weekends for the fall..For the winter, flights will opera
65 Post contains links AirJamaica : Quite a downgrade on their PHL-MBJ route indeed. I remember when they used to operate the B752's on CLT-MBJ. Think it was also used on the PHL-MBJ ro
66 Post contains links HummingBird : This puts DL ahead of US and second to AA at MBJ for US carriers... Quite impressive...Its interesting to see how they will attain 710 pax per hour d
67 AA1818 : In terms of legacy carriers from the US at MBJ, what is the lineup? AA- DFW (daily?), MIA (4 daily), JFK? DL- ATL (?), JFK (?) US- CO- UA- AA1818
68 HummingBird : The following represents their winter schedule: DL ATL 3 daily and 4th flight every Thur, Fri, Sat and Sun.. JFK daily... AA MIA 3 daily JFK 5 weekly
69 AA1818 : Thanks for the info! That is an insane amount of capacity- and all the legacies are quite well matched in terms of capacity it would seem. The differ
70 AirJamaica : Don't forget NW out of DTW, MEM & MSP to MBJ as well. Though DL has now merged with NW and they have been consolidating their operations on a phased
71 Post contains links HummingBird : You are welcome.. The difference is small, but all these legacy carriers are not enough to fill all the hotels in Jamaica..That is one reason there i
72 AirJamaica : Great that passengers were treated to a '' free concert '' onboard that JM flight while it was on the ground in NAS. Yes the weather in Florida can r
73 HummingBird : The Jamaican roots, rock, reggae experience.. The possibility exists, as the summer sched officially ends tomorrow..This will allow them more flexibi
74 LimaMike : Not to prematurely cause a panic but I hope this does not mean more route cuts. Although it must be admitted that during the last restructuring it wa
75 HummingBird : We should hear more by the end of the week...I assume they failed to mention these routes as core, based on the fact they are mainly leisure with lit
76 LimaMike : Ok. Right off the bat ORD comes to mind, but I'm wondering which are the other two that would fit those criteria. Surely PHL, BWI and MCO have their
77 HummingBird : Only time will tell.. The latest rumour: The company has been sold to Indigo.. A distinct Jamaican identity...( I assume the name will stay). Looking
78 Post contains links AirJamaica : A resident from Baltimore states his opinion on the JM divestment......... Fog over Air J Dear Editor, It is now almost the middle of September and th
79 HummingBird : Interesting....Its about time the GOJ and the UK Governemnt meet and discuss new immigration policies for Jamaicans..With the upcoming Olympic Games
80 Post contains links AirJamaica : Many locals at home and abroad will be making the effort to attend this event. Wasn't aware of this development. Presuming they would operate from KI
81 HummingBird : I hope to be a part of that experience.. It seems like a stretch for LI, but it would be good to have an alternate carrier on the route..The aircraft
82 Post contains links HummingBird : Kudos to The JTB...Long overdue.. WESTERN BUREAU:The Ministry of Tourism says it is in 'lively negotiations' with triple world record holder, Usain Bo
83 Post contains links AirJamaica : MoBay airport welcomes one millionth passenger '' TOURISM Minister Edmund Bartlett on Friday welcomed Jamaica's one millionth visitor to pass through
84 HummingBird : Good news indeed.. I assume it is AA, they are one of few carriers that have RON service to KIN and MBJ... I will post the March stats later..
85 HummingBird : Thanks to JM079, we have now decided to post the northbound and southbound figures of flights operating to Jamaica..This will give us more clarity as
86 HummingBird : Stats continued.. US BOS-MBJ 2728-2393 88% CLT-MBJ 15190-12370 81% MBJ-CLT 15190-12977 85% PHL-MBJ 6943-5708 82% MBJ-PHL 7073-6450 91% DL ATL-MBJ 14,2
87 AirJamaica : AA JFK-MBJ 5717-4160 73% MBJ-JFK 5731-4468 78% JM's MBJ-JFK LF's outperformed AA's in both directions. ( though at the end of the day it is yeilds th
88 HummingBird : Am not surprised..This is an ever expanding market...When B6 entered the market, the passenger figures rose for the month of June..I can assure you o
89 AA1818 : It would be great to see JM return to it's former glory. Keep us posted. When can we expect an announcement? The Gov't have really lost some credibil
90 SCL767 : BW already operates extra seasonal B738 POS-BGI-KIN flights, alongside the daily POS-KIN milk-run. Why would LI waste their resources in opening up a
91 AirJamaica : B6's entry into JFK-MBJ has certainly stimulated the market indeed. Contrary to what many had predicted, their presence seem to be actually very bene
92 HummingBird : No, the average range of the Dash8-300 is between 900 and 968 miles..The Q-400 could comfortably make the trip.. I agree... I believe the flight will
93 SCL767 : Is LI acquiring any Dash-8-Q-400s? Regardless, business travelers will still use BW's dedicated services to KIN. Why would a connection with SDQ beni
94 HummingBird : You need to read the statement in the context in which it was used..Where did I state LI is acquiring a Q400?. We have discussed the reasons why a KI
95 SCL767 : It implied that LI would be able to fly the route with the Q-400. LIAT's current goal is to consolidate their routes, improve OTP, and resolve the ca
96 A340Jamaica : You have got to be kidding right? POS, an established regional hub except for Guyana, Surinam and Caracas connections? Geographical limitations when
97 SCL767 : And right in the middle of MIA and PTY! What destinations do you think JM/NK will operate too in the future? Will they be able to offer connections t
98 SCL767 : PAP could never be a hub for obvious reasons. Jamaica is primarily located close to the countries of the Bahamas, Haiti, the D.R., Belize, and Cuba (
99 Yellowtail : KIN would be a great hub (regional and between the two continents.)
100 A340jamaica : Look SCL. Strong economy etc. alone not a hub makes. Hubs develop primarily because of geography and to a lesser extent historical links and economic
101 A340Jamaica : Now that I am at home and have a little more time, let me further elaborate. Neither MIA nor PTY are well placed for intra regional connections. Any
102 A340Jamaica : Agreed that there is great uncertainty regarding JM. What I do know however is that people are looking at MIA in particular and asking why should I ha
103 HummingBird : You are so right..Airone wanted to create a base in KIN because of it's location,facilities and population..It did not choose POS, but instead went t
104 Beeweel15 : I agree with you on this SCL767 Similarly , If you are in North America, what is the point of stopping in JFK (Delta Hub) when headed to South Americ
105 A340jamaica : At no point did I propose that. Read my post again please. That market is well covered!! I specifically mentioned where the market is underserved and
106 Beeweel15 : Well I work at JFK and Delta is making it their main NE USA hub to go head to head with CO. They are currently downgrading their CLE hub to a focus c
107 A340jamaica : I guess so if there really are a lot of folks doing that. You could probably take a slow Greyhound and beat such a routing NYC to PHL. The only conci
108 Post contains links HummingBird : Virgin Atlantic is seeking to justify its new luggage allowance policy, which comes into effect on November 25. The revised policy will affect passeng
109 Post contains links SCL767 : So POS isn't strategically located? Please clarify as to why? I disagree, BW doesn't have a "little" operation in Guyana. Also, look at SVD for examp
110 LimaMike : Isnt BA 's KIN schedule Mon, Wed, Fri? If they fly KIN on Sat that would mean double operations as they will fly MBJ on Thurs and Sat.
111 Post contains links HummingBird : Am sorry, its Friday..Now that you have mentioned this, I believe what BA will eventually do is position the crews between MBJ and KIN...I dont't thi
112 Ilanbwoy : I thought delta is now going after lga hence the slots swap with us airways.
113 AirJamaica : I am thinking thats exactly how they will position them between MBJ & KIN as it would be quite costly to have the crew on such a layover every week.
114 Yellowtail : That KIN-BGI layover trip is a bargaining chip in the union contract.
115 AA1818 : They fly them from KIN to BGI after every flight? Do they use CAL? AA1818
116 Post contains links HummingBird : When JM operated the KIN-BGI flights, it would be a frequent commute..Am not sure what happened after JM dropped the route... This spot is the ideal
117 Post contains links AirJamaica : It would be interesting to know how they currently handle this commute if they still do it indeed. Based on the departure time of BW 417 from KIN ( 1
118 HummingBird : When JM operated BGI flights..The commuting would only apply to the crew arriving on Friday..Crew arrives on Friday and commutes on Sat..The same app
119 A340Jamaica : I said I would not respond but I just love this topic.I would say no more than CUR or CCS or AUA etc. What geographic component makes POS "special" i
120 SCL767 : I beg to differ since many Venezuelans have deep historical ties with Trinidad. If you look at the history between the two countries it goes back for
121 Post contains links AirJamaica : I also just noticed that by November US will operate MBJ-CLT with a B767 on atleast one of their 3 flights. Is this the first time they will be opera
122 HummingBird : AFAIK, this will be a first.... No doubt, this flight will have healthy loads.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------
123 A340jamaica : I was clearly referring to connecting traffic from North America SCL, which you had mentioned earlier, not local Trinidad - Venezuela traffic. We kno
124 SCL767 : The question remains, what connections can JM/NK offer out of KIN? Besides CUR, PAP, GCM, PLS, and BZE? I do not think JM/NK will be able to expand a
125 Post contains images SCL767 : I took this photo on 9/16/09 at MIA:
126 A340jamaica : I really this time will say no more on this topic SCL. It is pointless going over obvious items with you. JM, no doubt faces uncertainty and maybe eve
127 SCL767 : Agreed, since another carrier already holds the route authorities required to fly several routes that can potentially bring progress to KIN's economy
128 Post contains links AirJamaica : Attempts made to block Air J sale for personal gain '' At the same time, Air Jamaica president Bruce Nobles yesterday said the divestment discussions
129 SCL767 : THIS IS AN EXCELLENT DEVELOPMENT!!! Anyone would like to speculate who this investor is?
130 Jmbweeboy : I too could not be happier that Spirit is apparently out of the picture. But the news does not sound good otherwise. Word of a rumoured "shutdown" cou
131 Yankeejuliet : A major travel group with airline experience is said to be the sole intrest. I will confirm the name in 48 hrs.
132 SCL767 : A shutdown is very possible, given the facts that are now public about how JM's finances were abused by certain individuals and the fuel situation in
133 Post contains links AirJamaica : Dolphin Cove breaks ground on new marine theme park in Hanover '' Dolphin Cove operates commercially successful locations in Ocho Rios, St Ann and Mon
134 SCL767 : May I ask what does a marine park have to do with Jamaican Aviation?
135 AirJamaica : Tourism is an important component of the Jamaican economy...always was, and will always be. Sustanable tourism involve ( but is not limited to ) the
136 Ilanbwoy : After reading the article in the observer...its no wonder Jamaica can never get ahead. Always people looking out for themselves and their pocket. JM n
137 Jmc777 : Is the Thomas Cook Group still in the running?
138 Post contains links HummingBird : An article in Flightglobal speaks about the survival of leisure carriers ( charters) in the turbulent avaition industry...It further went on to state
139 Caymanair : I'm at a loss as to why you are arguing RE: Jamaica's hub potential. In geographic terms it is more centrally located for East Caribbean/S.A. to West
140 Post contains links HummingBird : A RTO for a KX flight headed to Jamaica.. CNS): A Cayman Airways flight heading for Jamaica ingested a bird in one of its engines during takeoff this
141 Beeweel15 : Look at it this way here in the US you MCI which is the most central airport in the US great infrastructure , better than that of Jamaica, and no mor
142 AirJamaica : Initially they had indicated that they would switch FLL-KIN to a seasonal service. I think they will be increasing FLL-PAP though. Pleased to see tha
143 Post contains links HummingBird : This did not come as a surprise. The previous government fill the civil service with alot of their friends...Because of how the system works the curr
144 A340Jamaica : I have used MCI as I used to live in the Midwest, NW Iowa to be exact. MCI's layout is actually terrible for a hub airport. You pretty much have to r
145 Ilanbwoy : I have to agree with you there. Nothing surprises me when it comes to the previous govt. Its a shame what they did to the country and to think they m
146 Post contains links HummingBird : I was trying to avoid commenting on the topic, but I think it could have been handled properly.....It is always a case where everyone has their won a
147 Post contains links HummingBird : http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...hief-executive-fabio-villegas.html The article is about the growth of AVIANCA in Colombia and the strategy that
148 AirJamaica : Agree. Opportunities will be endless and MBJ is more than ready to accommodate the increased air traffic. It will be interesting to see if they keep
149 Yankeejuliet : The UK travel group "thompson" which has merged with thomas cook group which has a large clientel base in UK and Canada is reported to be the sole in
150 JM079 : It was always my and others understanding from day one that they were the entity that was recommended to the government as the bidder. One of the rea
151 Post contains links JM079 : Great pics of J'can team in action and I can tell you that I enjoyed every moment of it. While travelling for the last month or so I took time to wat
152 JM079 : Am agreeing with you there and as HB pointed out the PM action was needed because if this process failed then his economic policies would need signif
153 Ilanbwoy : I will buy you a drink if you ever in atl. Talk bout slamming the door shut. LOL.
154 HummingBird : I expect at least two European carriers to feed this cruise operation.. Its a mystery as to why they would want to restart the route..If B6 comes on
155 Post contains links JM079 : Air Jamaica has made its first payment on a US$38.3-million, five-year agreement with US-based International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC) for the
156 JM079 : Flying with AC has always been a pleasure as I think they are one of the better North American carriers as I had to fly with a number of US carriers
157 Post contains links JM079 : GG Tours and Titan Tours have launched there schedule for the up - coming winter season and both have released there fares and flight info. Air Transa
158 Jmc777 : For clarity, in Europe there were 2 major mergers last year: 1. TUI (Thomson) and First Choice - known as TUI Group 2. Thomas Cook and MyTravel - kno
159 AirJamaica : MBJ was quite impressive when I last did a transfer there. My only issue at that time was the limited number of staff at the security check points, e
160 JM079 : Those were not issues that I saw as the airport at early afternoon as it is that time you will see all the AM arrival from North America had its full
161 JM079 : The Government of Jamaica has announced tonight that they will sign an agreement on monday , September 28 for the sale of the national carrier - Air J
162 LimaMike : During the summer and winter seasons AC regularly operates the B763 on YYZ-MBJ. As for DL, this probably was an unscheduled substitution as they norm
163 HummingBird : A commendable decision on the behalf of Mr Nobles and his team...It takes a man with a strong backbone to be at the head of a government run airline.
164 AirJamaica : Based on what I saw down there, it actually is. As in that extra KIN-YYZ-MBJ-KIN service they operated last year or are you refering to the regular J
165 Yellowtail : Welcome to the club..
166 JM079 : If you are connecting to elsewhere a two hour gap before your next flight is no longer feasible it seems. I see validity in these pre-clearance facil
167 AirJamaica : Myself try to avoid connecting at MIA if possible. Agree with you on the two hour gap. My co-worker missed her connecting flight to TPA at MIA on AA
168 HummingBird : I wonder how Jamaicans would react if JM were to charge a fee for the second piece of checked bag??
169 A340Jamaica : It's been 10 years since I connected in MIA from International and even then, it was not the greatest. The customs personnel are not the warmest eith
170 Post contains links AirJamaica : They would rant/frown initially and then slowly warm up to it IMO as most other carriers have these fees in some form or another. Then there is the q
171 AirJamaica : Have heard many people expressed those exact sentiments. Have never experienced a bad customs/immigration peronnel there but I witnessed an immigrati
172 Post contains links JM079 : The trial of the young man who attempted to hijack the Canjet plane back in April was found guilty today after a two trial and the judge will pass her
173 Post contains links JM079 : Now that Mo'bay airport is being managed by a private consortium of Canadian, Chilean and Spanish companies and is getting rare reviews the focus is n
174 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20090826/lead/lead5.html The government has made much of the fact that it wants Air Jamaica in private hands as
175 HummingBird : I had a similar expereince and have seen the same being done to other travelers..I must admit the personnel at JFK are far more friendlier compared t
176 JM079 : Lets be pragmatic here - the sale of NMIA will naturally see an increase in passenger and cargo traffic as the buyer wants a good return on there inv
177 AirJamaica : " target=_blank>http://www.jis.gov.jm/trans_works/ht...E.asp Looking at the lay out diagram of the proposed future aircraft stands of NMIA I am incli
178 HummingBird : I think in the interest of not having one company operate both airports, The GOJ may seek a different operator ...KIN has far too many advantages ove
179 Post contains links HummingBird : Oops, spoke too soon.. KINGSTON, September 24, 2009—Air Jamaica today announced that baggage regulations will be revised for passengers with ticket
180 AA1818 : Lets hope this will enable JM to work towards profitability. It's a real shame, especially for West Indians, but in the end, profits are the aim and
181 HummingBird : Yes...Only snacks are provided..The BOB programme was postponed.. The company's operation is already profitable..This fee is a new way to increase re
182 Caymanair : KX has 4 737-300's and 2 twin otters, but their schedule requires 3 737's and a single otter (during the slow season). At one point they tried to red
183 JM079 : KX evidently is being practical in making these adjustments to there schedule and again it is a industry wide trend - kudos to them
184 Post contains links HummingBird : Thanks for the information.. Thanks for the link...Airlines have to do whatever they can to survive... ----------------------------------------------
185 Post contains links JM079 : No one can argue against any airline that put in place measures to secure additional revenue. Travelagentcentral.com reports that JM action is in kee
186 Post contains links HummingBird : IMO, a generous fee that applies to excess baggage..This is an area where JM has generated huge revenues...JFK, CUR , GND,MCO and FLL are highly rank
187 Yankeejuliet : A320 s/n 1751 is expected to be returned to JM FLEET within a week after a breif delay in delivery due to tests been carried out.(6Y-JMJ)
188 AirJamaica : Currently AA doesn't charge for the first two checked bags between the US and Jamaica but it's just a matter of time before they and others implement
189 HummingBird : I agree...I assume it will be done by December now that JM has solidified the trend for flights to Jamaica... The JALPA is strict when it comes to th
190 Post contains links JM079 : Aviation Herald is reporting : ........An Air Canada Airbus A319-100, registration C-FYJH performing flight AC983 from Montego Bay (Jamaica) to Toront
191 JM079 : The returning of this 320 will increase the fleet to 9 will it not? As HB pointed it will affect the current plan of greater utilization which was ca
192 Yankeejuliet : This a/c will not lower utilization rate as it will replace one of the older models either fleet#624 or #628 which is now company owned and being sol
193 JM079 : Nobles mentioned that earlier that he intent to sell these 2 320.....but I was under the impression that he already did that in the summer. Are these
194 Yankeejuliet : Only a/c #626 was removed, although she is one of the older models, it is reported that the owner is ILFC.
195 HummingBird : Close call... The fleet is now 8...Prior to the arrival of 6Y-JMJ, they operated 7... I believe they have returned all aircraft that were planned as
196 Yankeejuliet : JMs "offical" pre divestment fleet for autumn are as follows: 6Y-JMF - A320 6Y-JMG-A320 6Y-JMH -A321 6Y-JMI - A320 6Y-JMJ- A320 6Y-JMK-A320 6Y-JAD-A31
197 Yankeejuliet : 3 A321 are parked in MIA. 2 are operating with Turquaz. 1 operating in the fleet
198 Post contains links HummingBird : Thanks....Does this mean 6 aircrafts are stored in MIA..Earlier this summer 2 A320s were spotted in MIA..The last A320 was ferried to MIA from JFK..A
199 JM079 : We now have a clear idea as to the fleet so any discussions as of now will be about JM effort to fully utilize these planes to its advantage.
200 Ilanbwoy : Looking forward to the news tomorrow as to who the successful bidder is. Hopefully they dont have this deadline of sept 28 pass also.
201 HummingBird : Lol...The new thread will be ready once they make the announcement...At a push of a button..
202 JM079 : Yea, there is some anticipation all over as this matter needs a closure. BTW: I can tell you that we will also know the names of the other entities t
203 Post contains links JM079 : The Jamaican Tourism Board is promoting its growing inventory of natural, historic and cultural attractions. http://www.caribbeannewsdigital.com/..._h
204 Post contains links JM079 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7X4IcmWS3E British Airways has released a agent training video about Jamaica for its up-coming resumption of service t
205 LimaMike : So I am assuming that 6Y-JAI, and 6Y-JAF (A320s) are leaving the fleet?
206 Yankeejuliet : It is not clear if they have already left. Two aircraft are to be leased in for the winter (subject to new owners approval). These could be two 321s
207 Post contains links JM079 : Air Jamaica has commenced the laying off exercise that was announced last week with news that over 380 positions will be affected. The exercise is exp
208 Post contains links JM079 : The GOJ is holding its weekly cabinet meeting and the divestment of JM is up for a final decision but it is expected that a formal annoucement will be
209 AirJamaica : " target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inAvh...annel Cool video clip of DL B752 landing on 07 in cross winds at MBJ. Dining area at Royal Dec
210 AA1818 : Any word on the divestment?.... AA1818
211 JM079 : No, I dont think you will see any formal notice from the GOJ as the cabinet meets all day and then holds there press briefing on tuesday morning. The
212 HummingBird : Hang in there guys, lol....Thread 19 is a button away...
213 JM017 : Grrr!!! The anticipation is killing me.
214 Post contains links JM079 : There is no official annoucement from the GOJ as yet about the outcome of the cabinet meeting but as predicted the local media has printed the followi
215 AA1818 : hmmmm...I thought that there were NO local investors in play. The stories keep changing very rapidly. It would appear that no-one knows exactly what
216 Yellowtail : Haven't we been hanging on the edge of our seats since like xmas?
217 BWIA 772 : Well this not surprising! The big blow up that happened when NK and BW where announced as bidders probably had some serious ramifications and especia
218 Ilanbwoy : O lord...not Butch again. If it never worked the first time, then it not going to work the 2nd time especially with money being tight as it is. Butch
219 Yankeejuliet : Although painful at times, Nobles is doing a great job of restructuring JM, I hope he is retained.
220 LimaMike : If we are to read much into the above line then I suppose a certain hotelier might again be head honcho at JM again.
221 Post contains links JM079 : The spanish firm - Abertis that manage airports international including MBJ has revealed that it is interested in taking over KIN ( http://www.abertis
222 JM079 : The PM spoke in the Parliament just now after a marathon sitting which started at 10Am and has just ended with a speech on a number of matters includi
223 A340Jamaica : Nice to see a newly painted JM bird in the "Correct" colours.
224 AirJamaica : Very true. Pure speculations. The suspense continue............... What I found interesting about this story is that revenues for the company where J
225 Post contains links HummingBird : New thread is up... Port Of Entry/Departure-KIN..Jamaican Thread 19.. (by HummingBird Sep 30 2009 in Civil Aviation) I was hoping for a different titl
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