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787 # 1, New Colors  
User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16799 times:

Can someone tell me why Boeing repainted the first 787 prototype and why on earth in such a drab scheme? Is one of the other of the first 6 planes taking the lime light to be come the first 787 to take to the skies?


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User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16704 times:

G'day

Can you enlighten this forum on what exactly the new "drab" color scheme is?  boggled 

Your efforts will be appreciated by all



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 16693 times:
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Quoting EBJ1248650 (Thread starter):
Can someone tell me why Boeing repainted the first 787 prototype and why on earth in such a drab scheme?

I thought that was ZA003. And I expect they just went with something simple since the original plan was to sell it as a VIP bird since NH has decided to wait for production frames.


User currently offlineFrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16331 times:

Actually, it's ZA005, the first test plane with GE engines (which aren't attached yet, AFAIK). Not the very first 787, that still wears dreamliner colors.


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User currently offlineBa1978 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16309 times:



Quoting Frigatebird (Reply 3):
ctually, it's ZA005, the first test plane with GE engines (which aren't attached yet, AFAIK). Not the very first 787, that still wears dreamliner colors.


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User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16231 times:

That livery is atrocious in comparison to what it had before! Come on Boeing you can do better!

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User currently offlineBa1978 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16126 times:



Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 5):
That livery is atrocious in comparison to what it had before!

I don't know, there's something I kinda like about it. Clean and simple. I've never been a huge fan of the Dreamliner livery. Too much going on in my opinion. Although Boeing do seem to have gone from one extreme to another here.



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User currently offlineThorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16074 times:



Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 5):
That livery is atrocious in comparison to what it had before! Come on Boeing you can do better!

Regardless of the livery, it doesn't look like its going to fly too soon. The cockpit windows are covered, the right main landing gear is covered, there are still some parts missing before the wings. Strange, strange sight.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 16026 times:
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Well obviously it's not going to fly soon, since the wings aren't properly connected.

User currently offlineCARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 15918 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 8):
Well obviously it's not going to fly soon, since the wings aren't properly connected.

Rumor is they are going to install something like a wing fix...  Wink


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 15717 times:

I wondered before if some rebranding would happen. Boeing no longer use Dreamliner could be another sign. Maybe the name has build up associations no longer in line with desired public perceptions.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6471 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 15673 times:



Quoting Keesje (Reply 10):
I wondered before if some rebranding would happen. Boeing no longer use Dreamliner could be another sign. Maybe the name has build up associations no longer in line with desired public perceptions.

The aircraft still says Dreamliner just under the blue wavy line towards the rear.


User currently offlineBmiBaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1810 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 15641 times:

Sure this is Dreamliner One?

User currently offlineCurlyheadboy From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 15491 times:

Could it be that Boeing just want to keep the livery more discrete while they go through the troubleshooting phase?


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User currently offlineBanjo76 From Italy, joined Apr 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15394 times:

Maybe they're trying to just spare weight giving up with the blue paint...  innocent 

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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15351 times:

Maybe it's actually N787ZA and not N787BA?

Edit to add the link;

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread495104/pg1

Either way, those wings just look fantastic!

[Edited 2009-08-27 15:24:15]


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User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15321 times:

N787ZA

http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/3844186126/


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15271 times:
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The plane (ZA005 - N787ZA) will probably end up in the hands of a private owner (as a BBJ) so Boeing likely went with a very subdued paint job. Most private commercial planes seem to favor this type of livery style, after all.

User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 15062 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 17):

Boeing isn't going to sell the first three frames. They are going to keep them and test improvements on them even when other 787s enter service. The paint scheme isn't a replacement for the dreamliner livery, just a simpler version, like the all-white version of the Airbus livery the A380 wears.

They likely had to repaint to fix the wing, and wanted the plane to look somewhat presentable,



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21529 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 14816 times:

The photo caption is wrong. That's all.


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 14704 times:

Soooo, the caption in the photo is wrong.

Is this correct from what we have seen come out of the paint factory:

ZA001 - N787BA - Rollout Aircraft in Dreamliner Livery (Unchanged)
ZA002 - N787EX - Painted in ANA Livery
ZA003 - N787BX - ?
ZA004 - N7874 - ?
ZA005 - N787FT - Painted in white with a blue wavy stripe and blue 787 tail
ZA006 - N787ZA - Painted in white with a blue wavy stripe and blue 787 tail

Edit: Source was going through Flightblogger articles

[Edited 2009-08-27 15:59:44]

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30986 posts, RR: 86
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 14505 times:
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Quoting PanAm788 (Reply 18):
Boeing isn't going to sell the first three frames.

True, but N787ZA is the sixth frame (I mistakenly referred to it as the fifth frame in Reply 17). Originally, Boeing was going to send the second through sixth frames to 787 VIP customers so that implies that the fourth, fifth and sixth frames are still going to be 787 VIPs.



Quoting United787 (Reply 20):
Is this correct from what we have seen come out of the paint factory:

ZA001 - N787BA - Rollout Aircraft in Dreamliner Livery (Unchanged)
ZA002 - N787EX - Painted in ANA Livery
ZA003 - N787BX - ?
ZA004 - N7874 - ?
ZA005 - N787FT - Painted in white with a blue wavy stripe and blue 787 tail
ZA006 - N787ZA - Painted in white with a blue wavy stripe and blue 787 tail

Yes. ZA003 and ZA004 were originally to have gone to NW/DL, but I expect they also will be painted in the same livery as ZA005 and ZA006.


User currently offlineWestWing From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2134 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 14447 times:

So the photo data should be corrected to: cn 40695 ln 6 reg N787ZA. Maybe this thread title too.


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User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 13072 times:

Thanks for the correction. My original sources was the photo shown in one of the replies submitted.


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2707 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12763 times:



Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 23):
Thanks for the correction. My original sources was the photo shown in one of the replies submitted.

No worries, the caption confused everyone...


25 A10warthog : The airplane in the picture is LN #5. There are two aircraft with that paint job on the flight line. LN #5 (north part of the ramp) and LN #6 (South p
26 Soon7x7 : Just a thought...with composites, your supposed to maintain an all white basecoat as dark colors cause internal delams due to temperature contrasts...
27 United787 : The reg# in the A-Net photo appears to be N787ZA, which from my understanding, makes it ZA006.
28 CV990Coronado : She looks beautiful despite all the problems. If she can fly as well as she looks then things should eventually come right for Boeing lets hope for th
29 Stitch : Well ZA001 is in Boeing's house colors which have a significant amount of blue in them, especially on the lower half. Also, Boeing is going to paint
30 Towcrazy : I would think it cost less to paint it one color.
31 Owleye : ZA005 and ZA006 were/are (?) originally planned for Royal Air Maroc. The simplified Boeing scheme is only applied to those 787s which receive a commer
32 Woosie : Generally, the first airplane of a type gets a splashier paint job, to make the initial rollout "look" better. That certainly happened with ZA001! How
33 Kappel : Indeed, look at the a380, at some point there were a few completely white test aircraft flying around.
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