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Is Etihad Phasing Out A340-500?  
User currently offlineErhard From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14057 times:

I noticed on EY's web site that they have removed the seat plan for the 340-500, so I am wondering if they are planning to phase this model out?

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User currently offlineSurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2797 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 13915 times:

It seems like everybody is trying to phase out the A340-500  Yeah sure


Flying in the middle seat of coach is much better than not flying at all!
User currently offlineDJMEL From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 13724 times:

I believe that they are removing the First Class Lounge area in favour for additional Y class seating......I either read it on this website or Etihad's.......

User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2788 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13639 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 1):
It seems like everybody is trying to phase out the A340-500

Really?



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User currently offlineScouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3364 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13585 times:



Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 3):
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 1):
It seems like everybody is trying to phase out the A340-500

Really?

It does seem to be a particular fantasy of certain users on here (not including the poster above!) that all airlines should dump A345s and A346s............

Whilst they're not as good as T7s fuel wise they look brilliant and us plane fanatics need some variety!


User currently offlineSQ_EK_freak From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 1628 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12838 times:



Quoting DJMEL (Reply 2):
I believe that they are removing the First Class Lounge area in favour for additional Y class seating......I either read it on this website or Etihad's.......

I think you're thinking of Qatar and their A346? Haven't heard anything of this on Etihad's side, but then again that might explain why the seat plan has been removed.



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User currently offlineJfklucky777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12464 times:

Aren't they reconfiguring their A/C this summer with new first class suites as well as new seats in J and Y? Maybe that has something to do with it?

User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4716 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11935 times:

EY doesnt have a lounge on board its A 345s...QR does on its A 346s only and they did indeed remove it to install 44 more economy class seats.

User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1443 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11588 times:



Quoting Jfklucky777 (Reply 6):
Aren't they reconfiguring their A/C this summer with new first class suites as well as new seats in J and Y? Maybe that has something to do with it?

Maybe that's the reason. BTW I didn't hear that EY is changing their J and Y product.... their J and Y are perfectly fine especially Business Class, but a change would be good.



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User currently offlineCorernagh14 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10909 times:

I

Quoting SQ_EK_freak (Reply 5):
Quoting DJMEL (Reply 2):
I believe that they are removing the First Class Lounge area in favour for additional Y class seating......I either read it on this website or Etihad's.......

I think you're thinking of Qatar and their A346? Haven't heard anything of this on Etihad's side, but then again that might explain why the seat plan has been removed.

I think this change is for the purposes of chamges in seating as you say etc - not EY phasing out their four A340-500. They also receive their final A340 600 (MSN1040) from Airbus early next month.

I do not know whether Qatar are still proposing to phase out their A340 600's next year (sell/lease to whom?) , as previously threatened by their CEO, or whether that is on hold for a another few years ??.


User currently offlineSR 103 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1736 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10647 times:

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 7):
EY doesnt have a lounge on board its A 345s

Then what did I take a picture of when I was on the 345? 
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f42/SR747300M/Etihad/DSC05173.jpg

Maybe we need to define the meaning of "lounge?"

[Edited 2009-08-28 13:23:32]

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10615 times:



Quoting Erhard (Thread starter):
I noticed on EY's web site that they have removed the seat plan for the 340-500, so I am wondering if they are planning to phase this model out?

Maybe, who knows.. anyway, they'll start Chicago with A345s next week.


User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10571 times:



Quoting SR 103 (Reply 10):
Then what did I take a picture of when I was on the 345?

One respect point for you Smile



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2217 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 10023 times:

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 10):
Then what did I take a picture of when I was on the 345?

Yes this is the Etihad A345/A346/A332-new 3-class F lounge, located in the fore of the aircraft (in front of the F seats), there are usually galleys here.

The former Qatar A346 F lounge was located aft of the seats and featured a dining-style table. Wish they kept it, it was so distinctive.

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[Edited 2009-08-28 14:54:30]


oh boy!!!
User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9292 times:



Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 13):
Yes this is the Etihad A345/A346/A332-new 3-class F lounge, located in the fore of the aircraft (in front of the F seats), there are usually galleys here.

What I don't get is how they can justify the lounge space on the A330-200... Surely as the aircraft is relatively small (compared to other wb aircraft), they would want to utilise the space for more seating?



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1732 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9213 times:



Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 13):

The former Qatar A346 F lounge was located aft of the seats and featured a dining-style table. Wish they kept it, it was so distinctive.

Its still there. They have yet to remove it. Big grin



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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9041 times:

QR should install at least one of those tables in my house, preferably in my rec-room/home theatre room.  Smile Beautiful.......actually the whole lounge would look great in my house, or anyones house really.


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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2217 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8323 times:



Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 14):
What I don't get is how they can justify the lounge space on the A330-200... Surely as the aircraft is relatively small (compared to other wb aircraft), they would want to utilise the space for more seating?

Look at the first pic and look at their seatmap: http://www.etihadairways.com/sites/e...popups/250x800/A330_200_3class.gif

The lounge is located right aft of the cockpit by the L1/R1 doors. You couldn't put seats there anyway. As I said usually this space is used for a small F/J galley.

Quoting QatarA340 (Reply 15):
Its still there. They have yet to remove it.

Welcome news to me! I wish i had an extra ~10k to blow on a F flight.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8034 times:



Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 17):
As I said usually this space is used for a small F/J galley.

Or cockpit crew rest facility. Qantas is one example.


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7197 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 7):
EY doesnt have a lounge on board its A 345s



Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 13):
Yes this is the Etihad A345/A346/A332-new 3-class F lounge, located in the fore of the aircraft (in front of the F seats), there are usually galleys here.



Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 14):
What I don't get is how they can justify the lounge space on the A330-200... Surely as the aircraft is relatively small (compared to other wb aircraft), they would want to utilise the space for more seating?



Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 18):
Or cockpit crew rest facility. Qantas is one example.

The EY First Class Lounge was a feature of the EY-spec 3-class A332/A345/A346 aircraft delivered between 2006 & 2008:

A332: F10 J26 Y164 (A6-EYK/YL/YM/YN/YO/YP)
A345: F12 J28 Y200 (A6-EHA/HB/HC/HD)
A346: F12 J30 Y244 (A6-EHE/HF/HH)

The lounge was later dropped and replaced by a flightdeck crew rest on the following subsequent aircraft. The galley layouts were also changed enabling 8 more seats to be added:

A346: F12 J32 Y248 (A6-EHI/HJ/HK*)

*A6-EHK is the first aircraft to feature the new EY First class suites and washroom. A6-EHL will be the same and is due for delivery early September

The next 3-class aircraft will be the first of five A330-300s in December. I beleive these will also feature the new Business Class.


User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2582 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7194 times:

To answer the question of the thread, I am not aware of any plans to dispose of the A345 fleet.

These aircraft will be busy operating the JFK & ORD routes which will leave them little time to operate anything else once ORD goes daily.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 11929 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 7004 times:



Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 1):
It seems like everybody is trying to phase out the A340-500

Yes, but Etihad is trying harder than most:


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Actually, that's an A340-600, but it does illustrate a point: these planes won't have very long service life, IMHO.



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User currently offlineDennys From France, joined May 2001, 824 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6454 times:

I hope not . The EY A345 is one of the finest A340s .

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10735 posts, RR: 38
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6430 times:



Quoting Revelation (Reply 21):

Yes, but Etihad is trying harder than most:

Oh I remember this one. It came as quite a shocker.
Poor aircraft!
I bet that a/c was a write-off.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6413 times:



Quoting Revelation (Reply 21):
Actually, that's an A340-600, but it does illustrate a point: these planes won't have very long service life, IMHO.

 Confused

An acccident to illustrate A340s won't have a long service life in your opinion?

3 People were seriously wounded.


25 CV580Freak : Lounges went ages ago, read the trade press ....
26 Dennys : I checked on Amadeus and Flightstats.com, EY is well flying their A340-500s for the winter periode 2009-2010 as follows : AUH - ORD 6 times per week A
27 Pellegrine : Boo. They still have the lounge config seat map on their website though?
28 Trex8 : except for the bar its so 70's 707/Dc8!
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