MCOAviationFan From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 247 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7700 times:
DL/NW will be making the following network changes in the fall schedule:
ATL-AMS changes to a DL 767 on Oct 25
ATL-FRA will operate with a NW A330-200 on Nov 1
JFK-AMS will be suspended on Nov 9 - KLM will operate their flights in this market.
JFK-LYS will be suspended on Nov 3
JFK-MAN will be suspended on Jan 7 - MAN will continue to be served from ATL.
There may be others, but that's all I know of for now.
Thats interesting because I checked EWR-AMS on DL past NOV 9 and the flights will be operated by a DL 763ER and not KLM. You would figure DL would keep their JFK hub flights on their own metal and send KLM over to the non-hub, EWR.
Goldorak From France, joined Sep 2006, 1896 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 20 hours ago) and read 5607 times:
Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 6): Was this flight just seasonal, or has it been performing badly?
I don't think it was intended to be seasonal, so not a good sign. If they definitely axe this flight, it will be the 2nd failure of this route. Very strange that it could even not sustain a daily 757 or a 4- to 5-times weekly.
Nwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3445 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 19 hours ago) and read 5433 times:
Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 9): Thats interesting because I checked EWR-AMS on DL past NOV 9 and the flights will be operated by a DL 763ER and not KLM. You would figure DL would keep their JFK hub flights on their own metal and send KLM over to the non-hub, EWR.
FWIW, JFK-AMS has bounced back and forth between KL and NW metal several times in the past. Same story with EWR. Sometimes a DC10 on NW, sometimes a 767 with KL. Lately it's been a NW A330, and (IIRC) is now a DL 767.
Quoting N839MH (Reply 12): Rumor in DFW is that sometime next year Delta will replace KLM here in DFW to AMS with a B767-400. This would be really cool if true!
DFW-AMS has been circling 'round the rumor mill for a few years now...
"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
PHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 14 hours ago) and read 4086 times:
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 19): Seems a bit odd, considering the route is currently operated by a 764ER. Perhaps it is due to cargo, and/or maybe premium J traffic is down (the 764ER has 42 J seats while the A332 has 32).
Looking at nwa.com I can see that DTW-FRA and one of the three DTW-AMS will go to an A330-200 in November. So that would help to explain the ATL-FRA flight. I have heard that DTW-FRA has suffered from the auto industry declines. Remember that only 2 summers ago a 2nd daily 757 was added to DTW-FRA, but during this spring it was operating only 5x or 6x A333. So now it would seem that the decline even warrants the downgauge to an A332 from the A333.