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KLM's New Uniform By Mart Visser  
User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 16 hours ago) and read 15734 times:

Hey all,

I just read on KLM's website that Dutch designer Mart Visser is developing a new uniform for the cabin crew since the current was designed in the early 90's (I find it OK though).
According to the website the crew will start using the new uniforms in April '10.
Here's the source: http://corporate.klm.com/en/newsroom...r-to-design-new-klm-ladies-uniform

Some design pictures are available at: http://www.presslink.nl/klm/
by looking for the Mark Visser option on the menu.

These are some pictures I found in google

Big version: Width: 375 Height: 500 File size: 79kb


Big version: Width: 500 Height: 364 File size: 72kb


As you can see, there's now option for pants.
Does anybody knows more???

Greetings
KL-AM


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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1861 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (5 years 16 hours ago) and read 15711 times:
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The pants have been around for longer, I've seen some ladies wear it at AMS. TBH I dont spot any major differences on this jacket and the last, then again I never really paid attention to their uniforms! Sky blue for sure  Smile


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2117 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 16 hours ago) and read 15680 times:



Quoting KLAM (Thread starter):
I just read on KLM's website that Dutch designer Mart Visser is developing a new uniform for the cabin crew

In the current economic situation I would spend my money on more important things.



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User currently offlineGlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 16 hours ago) and read 15635 times:

Hm, well, I know it's KLM's light blue. However, I really don't like the colour. I simply find it very bright light blue. I would have preferred something darker, more elegant. Reminds me more on a pool girl uniform at Club Med.


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User currently offlineSeamefly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 16 hours ago) and read 15579 times:

ugh, I wish they would get rid of the ugly blue color!! I know it's their trademark but it's not easy on the eyes!!

User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3905 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (5 years 15 hours ago) and read 15408 times:

I've always loved the powder blue of KLM. I wish they could adopt the AF uniform, but in powder blue and other accent colors. The KLM blue is unique and no matter where you are in the world and you see that blue, you know what brand they represent. If only they'd ditch those darn stripes for the cabin crew and get their pilots some decent hats!

User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 hours ago) and read 15101 times:



Quoting 747classic (Reply 2):

In the current economic situation I would spend my money on more important things.

I don't really think they really broke their heads with the new uniforms. I don't know how healthy KLM's finances are these days, but I've always thought they offer a fairly good and reliable product without much fanfarre. I just think that changing some of the stuff that might look unimportant at the beginning can be good for the employees and the customers, but again, I don't get much of financial babble so I wouldn't know...

Back to the uniform topic...

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 1):
The pants have been around for longer, I've seen some ladies wear it at AMS. TBH I dont spot any major differences on this jacket and the last, then again I never really paid attention to their uniforms! Sky blue for sure

I thought the same about the jacket, the only difference I find is in the scarf, but I will wait until I see the real thing, because honestly I cannot picture the drawings in real life.
BTW, does anyone know how the cabin crew ranks work at KL? I've seen one, two, three and four stripes in longhaul, and I can't really remember in shorthaul...

Thanks

KL-AM



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User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4678 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 hours ago) and read 15033 times:

It looks like this uniform crew update (which I like from the photos) is the same kind as the latest livery change. It isn't a big change, but the result is fresh. I will be happy to see it in April '10.


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User currently offlineLimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 9 hours ago) and read 14853 times:

Wow -- is that in 2009, or 1989?

I guess it's clear why one never hears of a fashion company listing their presence as "Milan Paris New York Rotterdam"...  Wink


User currently offlineErhard From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 hours ago) and read 14655 times:

oh dear!.......

that is NOT a good blue....very 70's and early 80's!!!....back to the drawing board I would say!


User currently offlineSR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 hours ago) and read 14027 times:

The blue is just fine. What do we want really, another navy blue uniform? This is nice.. looks like a more modern twist to an old classic. As others have pointed out, feels a bit like the livery !

The first lady with straight hair looks -great- in that uniform.


User currently offlineAirbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 hours ago) and read 13834 times:

The uniform has just undergone a testfase, and except for a few minor details, it will be the same as you see them on the pic.s

Jacket remains the same, but the ladys have the choice of 2 different skirts and a pair of pants. I have seen the test FA's walking around in them and they do look nice, but i will miss the old uniform as that is the one i have always seen and have grown up with.

The other sad detail is that they will loose their name pin, from now on it'll only state their rank.

BTW, the old uniform pants were for the KLM cityhopper FA's only.

This new uniform will also be worn by the female Pilots, but then offcourse in navy blue and with pants only!
rgds

AB



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 hours ago) and read 13375 times:

The blue is ok.... but the style...  vomit 

I'll pass.... ugh!!



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User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 hours ago) and read 13336 times:

The scarf is also not the final design. It will have orange accent colors. Also the name tags will disappear. Something to do with privacy issues. They will be replaces with tags stating your function. There is also an issue with the four stripes that identify the Purser & Senior Purser. Before the Europe Purser and the Assistant Purser on ICA flights had three stripes. Now they both have four. The Europe Purser/Assistant Purser function no longer exist. It became Purser & Senior Purser. The issue was to be resolved although I don't know how.

GT

[Edited 2009-08-30 02:22:33]


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User currently offlineLh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 hours ago) and read 13028 times:
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Awful! The colour is a no-go (Yes I know it's a brand colour, marketing jibber jabber about colour comonality) ... but with a little design, fashion & usabilty knowledge one can turn this into the most fashionable inflgiht uniform ever made.

The fabric looks unbelievable thick, the cut is so 1992 and the sleeves have the usual off the shelf problem ... too wide!

IF you need to spend money on a new uniform these days, make it 100% perfect and don't go for the mediocre look .... A cut is a cut, if you fail to understand the basics of good fashion it directly projects to your entire company.

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 13):
The scarf is also not the final design. It will have orange accent colors. Also the name tags will disappear. Something to do with privacy issues.

Even worse!!! Orange is an awful colour when combined with blue (in this case even light blue) and removing the nametag is a step in the wrong direction ... When flying I'm addressed by name by the LH crew and I always in return call the FA by her / his name as per his tag .... gives for a much more personal flying experience.



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User currently offlineGlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 hours ago) and read 12710 times:



Quoting Lh526 (Reply 14):
I always in return call the FA by her / his name as per his tag .... gives for a much more personal flying experience

Totally agree

Quoting Lh526 (Reply 14):

Even worse!!! Orange is an awful colour when combined with blue (in this case even light blue)

Yes its like mixing pastel colours. Just lloks terrible. I find the blue already hard enough for for they eye, an

Quoting SR117 (Reply 10):
The blue is just fine. What do we want really, another navy blue uniform?

Well, but navy blue simply look very stylish, elegant, good! It's asmuch stylish, elegant as timeless!

Quoting Lh526 (Reply 14):
Awful! The colour is a no-go (Yes I know it's a brand colour, marketing jibber jabber about colour comonality)

I totaly agree, it's not like Air France has a white uniform with blue and red stripes on it.



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User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4990 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 hours ago) and read 12624 times:

The new uniform looks very unisex to me. You kind of lose the woman inside of it.


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User currently offlineEcuadorianMD11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 hour ago) and read 12418 times:

I don´t see much difference in the design but the color is a classic!!
It stands out, it´s recognizable..........it´s a winner.
I´m not sure about the pants though!

Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 3):
Reminds me more on a pool girl uniform at Club Med.

And what exactly is wrong with that..........

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User currently offlineOlympic472 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10731 times:



Quoting Lh526 (Reply 14):
and I always in return call the FA by her / his name as per his tag ..

Just don't call her Helga  fight 

Yes, the blue is their corporate color, but there is too much blue in the uniform. They are glowing!  cool 



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User currently offlineDba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 662 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10627 times:

That blue tone is screaming "Ryanair" and "cheap".
Used to have the hope, that if they'd change the uniforms, it would be some colour which is easier to the eye. Obviously that's not the case.
And _please_ leave the name badges!

Ah, btw, folded arms on press pics (are they?)? Come on...

Still, might see over these "flaws" as long as KLM is flying the 400 Combi Big grin
Honestly, there are more important things then uniforms, right?


User currently offlineSeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10242 times:

KLM (the Netherlands in this instance) isn't the only monarchy country that ever runs an airline. UK, France, Germany are too, to name a few. However, they were able to come up with something more stylish when it comes to their flag carrier's cabin uniform. I don't get it why KLM can't !!! So if they want to keep the blue, let it just stay with the plane's exterior color !!! You do not need to have everyone scream UGLY !!! everytime we see their cabin crew walk by !!!!

For heaven's sake, they're part of Air France now, get some French designer for once to create a more stylish, easy on the eyes uniform set for the cabin crew!!! Take a look at the partner's uniform, AF, that is!!


User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4678 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10184 times:



Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 20):
KLM (the Netherlands in this instance) isn't the only monarchy country that ever runs an airline.

What does being a monarchy has to do with the uniform of a privately held company?!



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User currently offlineSeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9917 times:



Quoting JRadier (Reply 21):
What does being a monarchy has to do with the uniform of a privately held company?!

So it is not a country run carrier anymore, then why keeping the old tradition ? Why can't they be flexible?? or in this case more fashionable !!

If it's still run by the country, who happens to be a Monarchy, then I can understand that it would be harder to change the old tradition ... but now it is privately own, why insists on keeping the ugly uniforms?


User currently onlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4678 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9740 times:



Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 22):

So it is not a country run carrier anymore, then why keeping the old tradition ? Why can't they be flexible?? or in this case more fashionable !!

KLM is not run by the country. The uniform is a part of the KLM brand (like it or not), not tradition.



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User currently offlineEDICHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9725 times:



Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 20):
isn't the only monarchy country that ever runs an airline. UK, France, Germany are too,

France hasn't been a monarchy for 200 years, Germany hasn't been a monarchy since the end of WW1.


User currently offlineKLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 years 12 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8874 times:



Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 20):
So if they want to keep the blue, let it just stay with the plane's exterior color !!! You do not need to have everyone scream UGLY !!! everytime we see their cabin crew walk by !!!!

Yet we all see it and think KLM... even if it ain't the prettiest



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