KLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14037 times:
Hey all,
I just read on KLM's website that Dutch designer Mart Visser is developing a new uniform for the cabin crew since the current was designed in the early 90's (I find it OK though).
According to the website the crew will start using the new uniforms in April '10.
Here's the source: http://corporate.klm.com/en/newsroom...r-to-design-new-klm-ladies-uniform
Some design pictures are available at: http://www.presslink.nl/klm/
by looking for the Mark Visser option on the menu.
These are some pictures I found in google
As you can see, there's now option for pants.
Does anybody knows more???
CrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 42 Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14014 times:
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The pants have been around for longer, I've seen some ladies wear it at AMS. TBH I dont spot any major differences on this jacket and the last, then again I never really paid attention to their uniforms! Sky blue for sure
GlobeEx From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 6 Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13938 times:
Hm, well, I know it's KLM's light blue. However, I really don't like the colour. I simply find it very bright light blue. I would have preferred something darker, more elegant. Reminds me more on a pool girl uniform at Club Med.
As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks.
Seamefly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 13882 times:
ugh, I wish they would get rid of the ugly blue color!! I know it's their trademark but it's not easy on the eyes!!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 13711 times:
I've always loved the powder blue of KLM. I wish they could adopt the AF uniform, but in powder blue and other accent colors. The KLM blue is unique and no matter where you are in the world and you see that blue, you know what brand they represent. If only they'd ditch those darn stripes for the cabin crew and get their pilots some decent hats!
KLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 13404 times:
Quoting 747classic (Reply 2):
In the current economic situation I would spend my money on more important things.
I don't really think they really broke their heads with the new uniforms. I don't know how healthy KLM's finances are these days, but I've always thought they offer a fairly good and reliable product without much fanfarre. I just think that changing some of the stuff that might look unimportant at the beginning can be good for the employees and the customers, but again, I don't get much of financial babble so I wouldn't know...
Back to the uniform topic...
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 1): The pants have been around for longer, I've seen some ladies wear it at AMS. TBH I dont spot any major differences on this jacket and the last, then again I never really paid attention to their uniforms! Sky blue for sure
I thought the same about the jacket, the only difference I find is in the scarf, but I will wait until I see the real thing, because honestly I cannot picture the drawings in real life.
BTW, does anyone know how the cabin crew ranks work at KL? I've seen one, two, three and four stripes in longhaul, and I can't really remember in shorthaul...
JRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4598 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 13336 times:
It looks like this uniform crew update (which I like from the photos) is the same kind as the latest livery change. It isn't a big change, but the result is fresh. I will be happy to see it in April '10.
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LimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 13156 times:
Wow -- is that in 2009, or 1989?
I guess it's clear why one never hears of a fashion company listing their presence as "Milan Paris New York Rotterdam"...
SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 753 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12330 times:
The blue is just fine. What do we want really, another navy blue uniform? This is nice.. looks like a more modern twist to an old classic. As others have pointed out, feels a bit like the livery !
The first lady with straight hair looks -great- in that uniform.
Airbuster From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 385 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 12137 times:
The uniform has just undergone a testfase, and except for a few minor details, it will be the same as you see them on the pic.s
Jacket remains the same, but the ladys have the choice of 2 different skirts and a pair of pants. I have seen the test FA's walking around in them and they do look nice, but i will miss the old uniform as that is the one i have always seen and have grown up with.
The other sad detail is that they will loose their name pin, from now on it'll only state their rank.
BTW, the old uniform pants were for the KLM cityhopper FA's only.
This new uniform will also be worn by the female Pilots, but then offcourse in navy blue and with pants only!
rgds
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11678 times:
The blue is ok.... but the style...
I'll pass.... ugh!!
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GlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 16 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 11639 times:
The scarf is also not the final design. It will have orange accent colors. Also the name tags will disappear. Something to do with privacy issues. They will be replaces with tags stating your function. There is also an issue with the four stripes that identify the Purser & Senior Purser. Before the Europe Purser and the Assistant Purser on ICA flights had three stripes. Now they both have four. The Europe Purser/Assistant Purser function no longer exist. It became Purser & Senior Purser. The issue was to be resolved although I don't know how.
GT
[Edited 2009-08-30 02:22:33]
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Lh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2257 posts, RR: 17 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 11331 times:
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Awful! The colour is a no-go (Yes I know it's a brand colour, marketing jibber jabber about colour comonality) ... but with a little design, fashion & usabilty knowledge one can turn this into the most fashionable inflgiht uniform ever made.
The fabric looks unbelievable thick, the cut is so 1992 and the sleeves have the usual off the shelf problem ... too wide!
IF you need to spend money on a new uniform these days, make it 100% perfect and don't go for the mediocre look .... A cut is a cut, if you fail to understand the basics of good fashion it directly projects to your entire company.
Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 13): The scarf is also not the final design. It will have orange accent colors. Also the name tags will disappear. Something to do with privacy issues.
Even worse!!! Orange is an awful colour when combined with blue (in this case even light blue) and removing the nametag is a step in the wrong direction ... When flying I'm addressed by name by the LH crew and I always in return call the FA by her / his name as per his tag .... gives for a much more personal flying experience.
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Type-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4348 posts, RR: 20 Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10927 times:
The new uniform looks very unisex to me. You kind of lose the woman inside of it.
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EcuadorianMD11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10721 times:
I don´t see much difference in the design but the color is a classic!!
It stands out, it´s recognizable..........it´s a winner.
I´m not sure about the pants though!
Quoting GlobeEx (Reply 3): Reminds me more on a pool girl uniform at Club Med.
Olympic472 From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 406 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9034 times:
Quoting Lh526 (Reply 14): and I always in return call the FA by her / his name as per his tag ..
Just don't call her Helga
Yes, the blue is their corporate color, but there is too much blue in the uniform. They are glowing!
Dba4u From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 623 posts, RR: 16 Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8930 times:
That blue tone is screaming "Ryanair" and "cheap".
Used to have the hope, that if they'd change the uniforms, it would be some colour which is easier to the eye. Obviously that's not the case.
And _please_ leave the name badges!
Ah, btw, folded arms on press pics (are they?)? Come on...
Still, might see over these "flaws" as long as KLM is flying the 400 Combi
Honestly, there are more important things then uniforms, right?
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SeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8545 times:
KLM (the Netherlands in this instance) isn't the only monarchy country that ever runs an airline. UK, France, Germany are too, to name a few. However, they were able to come up with something more stylish when it comes to their flag carrier's cabin uniform. I don't get it why KLM can't !!! So if they want to keep the blue, let it just stay with the plane's exterior color !!! You do not need to have everyone scream UGLY !!! everytime we see their cabin crew walk by !!!!
For heaven's sake, they're part of Air France now, get some French designer for once to create a more stylish, easy on the eyes uniform set for the cabin crew!!! Take a look at the partner's uniform, AF, that is!!
SeaMeFly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8220 times:
Quoting JRadier (Reply 21): What does being a monarchy has to do with the uniform of a privately held company?!
So it is not a country run carrier anymore, then why keeping the old tradition ? Why can't they be flexible?? or in this case more fashionable !!
If it's still run by the country, who happens to be a Monarchy, then I can understand that it would be harder to change the old tradition ... but now it is privately own, why insists on keeping the ugly uniforms?
JRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4598 posts, RR: 51 Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8043 times:
Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 22):
So it is not a country run carrier anymore, then why keeping the old tradition ? Why can't they be flexible?? or in this case more fashionable !!
KLM is not run by the country. The uniform is a part of the KLM brand (like it or not), not tradition.
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KLAM From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 167 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (3 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7177 times:
Quoting SeaMeFly (Reply 20): So if they want to keep the blue, let it just stay with the plane's exterior color !!! You do not need to have everyone scream UGLY !!! everytime we see their cabin crew walk by !!!!
Yet we all see it and think KLM... even if it ain't the prettiest
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