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Mood Lighting, Does It Really Help Reduce Jet Lag?  
User currently offlineHamad From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8894 times:

around two weeks since my return from Arizona to Dubai, i finally recovered from my jetlag. United first didn't have the mood lighting that a lot of carriers have. not seeing it as necessary, i came up with the following questions:

1- What is the basis of mood lighting, is it done in relation to the time in destination?
2- Doe it really help the reduction of jetlag?


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5518 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8883 times:

The mood lighting on my AC flight seemed to be done in relation to the time outside the airplane. When the sun was setting, the cabin was a dark red. When it was dark outside, the cabin was a dull purple. During sunrise, the cabin was a yellow-orange. Pretty cool!

User currently offlineErhard From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8842 times:

Well I find it quite relaxing actually which does lead to a better sleep on the aircraft for me...not sure about it having an effect on jet lag...luckily for me I do not seem to suffer too much from it and recover pretty quickly with or without mood lighting.

User currently offlineGFFgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8618 times:

I wouldn't think it has much effect on jet lag but I find it helps create a relaxing atmosphere and it is MUCH nicer to be slowly awakened for breakfast by the light show than the inhumane switching on of the main cabin lights as in the past. The Gulf carriers have led the way with lighting schemes: EK, EY and QR for example.

User currently offlineDazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 8407 times:

Personally, I find the different coloured hue's of mood lighting distracting. It makes for an aesthetic cabin, but I don't find it useful whatsoever. For example, the following was taken at 5am local time an hour before we landed in Mombassa. It had been the same colour most of the night, a bit deeper purple at the beginning. The deep purple colour does nothing for me!


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User currently offlineDTW757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1567 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8380 times:

I flew LAX-SYD on the QF A380. I honestly don't think the lighting helped a bit with jetlag. Of course it probably didn't help that the flight was 15 hours of darkness so the moodlighting was simulation the sunrise that wasn't happening outside the window.


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User currently offlineTdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8184 times:



Quoting DTW757 (Reply 5):
Of course it probably didn't help that the flight was 15 hours of darkness so the moodlighting was simulation the sunrise that wasn't happening outside the window.

I thought that was the point. The mood lighting is supposed to sync you up with the day/night cycle at your destination. Part of the reason you get screwed up on long flights is that your body is constantly trying to track the day-night cycle you're getting from outside the aircraft, which is changing *way* too fast to keep up.

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User currently offlineSandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8159 times:
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Discussed a couple of weeks ago in this thread

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 1):

Every time I fly long haul I get this.

It's basically a small way to help alleviate jet lag as you fly through time zones. This is the same reason as you get mood lighting in the cabin, it's basically to get your body to adjust your body clock to the timezone at your destination. So if it's dark at the destination, close the blinds to 'fool' your body into thinking it's nightime. As we fly through dawn and dusk this can also have an effect on our body clock, probably why you where asked to close your blind at this time.

I personally don't really think it helps but there is a strong school of thought that says it does.

Here is a useful tool to determine time-zones around the world.

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User currently offlineAerecosse From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

Flown on both EK & EY with mood lighting & found it quite relaxing actually, particularly when you have the star night effect - very nice. As previously stated it it's a whole lot better than the being woken with the bright 'bling' of full cabin lights in the morning.


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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4636 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8068 times:

It feels much nicer on "waking up" in the morning...

Having the lights go from dark to full bright is quite jarring, whereas a gradual ramp up is quite pleasant.

Whether it has any bearing on jetlag, I have no idea...



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User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 7969 times:
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The lighting is cool - experienced it on Virgin America - however the LAX-JFK-LAX flight still kicked my butt.

User currently offlineDelawareUSA From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7415 times:

It does help. Had it on Thai when the used to fly the bnk-jfk non-stop

User currently offlineJetBlue777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

From my experience it did, it was only a 6-hr flight with VX and when I arrived in LAX I felt excellent, not the normal experience with nausea and sickness.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25457 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7299 times:



Quoting GFFgold (Reply 3):
wouldn't think it has much effect on jet lag but I find it helps create a relaxing atmosphere and it is MUCH nicer to be slowly awakened for breakfast by the light show than the inhumane switching on of the main cabin lights as in the past.



Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 9):
Having the lights go from dark to full bright is quite jarring, whereas a gradual ramp up is quite pleasant.

I consider mood lightling a useless gimmick. You can avoid the sudden change from darkness to full lights on by just turning up the normal lighting gradually, which many carriers seem to do.


User currently offlineGlobeex From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 742 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7190 times:

Well actually it is supposed to help and it actually is proven that it helps. Your sleep cycle is controled by a hormon called melatonin which is produced from selotonin in your brain. This process is heavily influenced by the light around you. Blue light does decrease the production of melatonin, whereas red light (like sundown) increases the rate of production.

The new energy saving lightbulbs are actually not really good for your sleepcycle and you health, as they produce mainly blue light. Therefore the whole moodlight is to control the production of melatonin and therefore influence your sleepingrythm. However, as almost everything concering sleeping, (dreams, amount of sleep you need etc.) differs A LOT between each individual.



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User currently offlineHOOB747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 446 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6550 times:

I don't know if it helps or not. I would suspect not. Especially for the 12 hour time differences. When I am on vacation in Shanghai or Singapore, the 12 hour (give or take) time difference is quite easy to adjust to when you are overseas. I have no problem falling asleep for 8 hours at noon East Coast Standard time when in Asia. The trick is coming back home after a week. Home is where jet-lag really does a number on me. I can't get back into a normal sleep rhythm easily. It takes about a week before I feel normal again. While on the trip, no problem. Coming home? Big problem (hee). I think the mood lighting is something that airlines use as a selling point, but without much practical value. IMHO.


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User currently offlineKsancoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5855 times:

In my opinion, is just a marketing tactic. But I will have to admit, I flew VA from SFO-SAN, it was in the evening, so I got to see some changes in the mood lighting. I do like it, it is cool, but I think its just a luxury feature when choosing an air carrier when you fly.


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User currently offlineGulfstream650 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5720 times:



Quoting Erhard (Reply 2):
luckily for me I do not seem to suffer too much from it and recover pretty quickly with or without mood lighting.

Me too, I have always found that a good session out at the pub or on the town on the same night of your arrival usually resets the system to zero. AS LONG AS YOU REMAIN STANDING when you're out otherwise you may feel more sleepy if you're sat down with not as much blood flowing.

Start from there as if you woke up that same morning in the time-zone you arrive in you'll be in good shape.

Try it!



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User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5281 times:
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Quoting 7673mech (Reply 10):
The lighting is cool - experienced it on Virgin America - however the LAX-JFK-LAX flight still kicked my butt.



Quoting JetBlue777 (Reply 12):
From my experience it did, it was only a 6-hr flight with VX and when I arrived in LAX I felt excellent, not the normal experience with nausea and sickness.

The one on VX works great with one HUGE caveat: Your flight is on time! I think in normal circumstances, it does a great job gently adjusting your circadian into the destination time zone. However, if you have a 2 hour deal out of JFK, for example, and the cabin attendant doesn't do whatever she needs to do to the CIDS (see below), the "destination" light scheme arrives 2 hours early, and an hour later, it seems like all the blue AND purple lights are on full blast, which defeats the purpose.

Quoting Globeex (Reply 14):


The new energy saving lightbulbs are actually not really good for your sleepcycle and you health, as they produce mainly blue light.

I know that may have been true in the beginning, but many eco-bulbs now have coatings that allow them to mimic any shade/hue you could desire...



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User currently offlineSFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5246 times:

Mood lighting does not do anything as far as jet lag for me personally - but sure looks cool.


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User currently offlineHamad From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5151 times:



Quoting HOOB747 (Reply 15):
The trick is coming back home after a week.

to me going west or going to the USA from Dubai is not a problem. when i used to live in the USA and come back for a two weeks vacation, the first week is a "b**ch", unless i sleep the full day before i left to Dubai and not sleep at all on the airplane. after moving back here, coming back from that area of the world is always a massive effect on my body and now it takes me 10-13 days to adjust at least. I looked at several factors, when i used to come back, i always took a flight from phoenix after school is out and stop at my family in DC, which is a 3 hours time difference any way, following that by 5-7 days i take United stop over in FRA, before continuing to Dubai. I think that the stopover in DC and the long connection in Frankfurt helps a lot in reducing the effects of jet lag. however, since i moved back and United started their non stop, i have a feeling that the sudden jump from that area of the world back to dubai has changed the effect of jetlag



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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3356 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

Never had effect on me, just looks more modern thats all, but geee yes I do hate those times especially on late night Asia flights where you take off, they shut all the lights out, then suddenly 2 hours later they flick them all on for dinner! so I gotta get my dinner fix then finally they turn it all off and I can sleep in peace for 10 more hours. Despite if I need to sleep the entire flight, I just cant resist the vittles so I never skip meals Big grin sleep eat sleep. but the TG experience on JFK-BKK and LAX-BKK can get a bit when they have a middle meal but still I get middle vittles once again. and the cabin darkens back.


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