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JAL's Schedule To USA/Canada  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5418 times:

Heard that JAL plans to switch NRT-LAX to a B 777. What model? How many flights they have per day for NRT-LAX? Will they all go B 777?

What about NRT-YVR-MEX as well as NRT-SFO? Also NRT-JFK? Will they remain B 747-400?

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User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5169 times:

NRT-SFO and NRT-JFK are already 773ER. (one daily for each route)
NRT-LAX and NRT-ORD will be switched to 773ER from this winter schedule. (one daily for each route, too)
NRT-YVR (5/w) and NRT-YVR-MEX (2/w) are 744.
NRT-JFK-GRU (3/w) is also 744.

Only one daily for NRT-LAX.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5016 times:

So what are the JAL B 747-400 routes left?

Any to Europe?


User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4979 times:

744 is being phased out from many routes as listed in this blog:

http://airlineroute.blogspot.com/200...0910-winter-long-haul-changes.html

In Europe, FCO(3/w) and MXP(4/w) will be the only 747 routes while others are all 772/773. 5 daily HNL routes (3 from NRT, 1 each from KIX & NGO) will still be 747-denser version. And that's all for the long hauls along with YVR/MEX/GRU.

Shorter routes: 747 runs on 1 daily NRT-GUM, 2 daily NRT-HKG, 1 daily NRT-BKK, and 2 daily HND-GMP. And maybe many more domestic routes.

And yes, I also wonder where the other leftover 747s go now. JL has plenty of 747s: 29 according to wikipedia. I don't know yet.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4929 times:

I think more than 29!!!! I am suer they will be back when the economy improves.

User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4904 times:

Oops, you're right. 747 international version is 29, domestic version (747D) is 8, so total number of 747 JAL has is 37. When economy comes back, fuel price will go up again, so I guess 747 will still be ditched. Slowly moving toward fuel efficient aircraft.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

Will the B 747-400s be back during summer?

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6488 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4864 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 6):
Will the B 747-400s be back during summer?

Probably not; the 77W is much more efficient than the 744.

CX is also switiching to all 77W service to LAX by Dec09.

MH is switching to 772 to LAX eff 24Oct09.

The777Man



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User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4864 times:

During summer 2010? I don't think so. At this point, those changes to 777/767 are permanent. But things can change.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

Then I suppose those B 747-400s will be placed elsewhere right? Where?

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

The B 747-400s carry more passengers though.

What about SYD and LHR?


User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6488 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4783 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
hat about SYD and LHR?

As already explained by HeeseokKoo, they are also 777s. See reply 3.

The777Man



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User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4568 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
So what are the JAL B 747-400 routes left?

Everyday, JAL usually sends 5 high density-seat B744s from Tokyo, Osaka, and Nagoya to HNL. It's also common to have a few additional flights. Flights always seem full as well.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4002 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4155 times:
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SQ will also be changing to 77W on SIN-NRT-LAX-NRT-SIN in the future until loads/yields pick back up then possibly to the 388. I started a thread a week and a half ago about a very similar topic.

User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2324 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3728 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
The B 747-400s carry more passengers though.

I like the B744 as much as you do, but the passenger benefit over the 77W is not as great as the fuel savings with 77W versus 744.  Sad



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

wait till they order the B 747-8 and/or the A 380.

I suppose they will still keep the B 747-400s and when the economy improves, they will be placed on more long haul routes. It carries more passengers at least


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24734 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

The JAl passenger 744s are slowly going bye-bye also.

2 have been converted to cargo at JAL, while 10 are slated to go to Kalitta Cargo based on an LOI.

The days of the 744 in passenger operations are starting to come to an end especially at carriers that have pursued the 777-300ER.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3288 times:

JAL's B 747-400s will stay on for a while

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 16):
2 have been converted to cargo at JAL, while 10 are slated to go to Kalitta Cargo based on an LOI.

Is this confirmed?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24734 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3240 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 17):
Is this confirmed?

Well the 2 JAL cargo birds have been converted already (JA8902/8906). The Kallita LOI was signed in 2007 with deliveries 2010-2012.



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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2939 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2961 times:



Quoting United Airline (Reply 15):
wait till they order the B 747-8 and/or the A 380.

They aren't in any hurry to order either, if at all.

JL is finished with replacing the 747 classic pax & freighter versions. The remaining 747s will soldier on for little while as no other airline is willing to pick up the rest. They will still ply medium-haul runs on Asian & Hawaii markets but the days of them operating long-haul are gone except for the remaining routes. It's just a matter of time before the 787 or more 777s are delivered.


User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1789 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

They are slowly reducing seat capacity on even the YVR/MEX route as well.

Those birds are now operating NRT/KIX/NGO-HNL.

Look at the schedule changes that they made starting this fall. They are shifting many many B763 based at NGO and KIX to NRT. Even long-haul is going to B772ER while the more important routes are remaining as B773ER routes.



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