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UA Changes At PHX For Fall  
User currently offlineThegooddoctor From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 523 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7396 times:

I just noticed United finally reversed its trend of downsizing PHX service... here are the changes:

Oct:

PHX-SFO - 2x 757, 2x airbi, 1x CR7
PHX-LAX - 2x CR7, 2x CRJ
PHX-DEN - 5x 757, 1x airbus
PHX-ORD - 2x 757, 1x airbus
PHX-IAD - 1x 757


Any money on UA bringing back the 767 to PHX?


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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3969 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7373 times:
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Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
Any money on UA bringing back the 767 to PHX?

nope



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7331 times:

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):

Any money on UA bringing back the 767 to PHX?

No way. Unless it is a temporary up gague or charter.

[Edited 2009-09-01 14:25:13]


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User currently offlineOsubuckeyes From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 716 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7151 times:

Didnt UA used to do about 7x daily to ORD 3x daily seems really low for some reason. Also is the IAD routing still IAD-PHX-TUS-PHX-IAD?

User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7134 times:

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
Any money on UA bringing back the 767 to PHX?

I don't think UA does any non-hub-to-hub widebody domestic flying anymore (sans Hawaii).

[Edited 2009-09-01 15:15:37]

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6294 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7042 times:



Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
PHX-DEN - 5x 757, 1x airbus

That seems a bit excessive.



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User currently offlineChumley From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7007 times:



Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 5):


Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
PHX-DEN - 5x 757, 1x airbus

That seems a bit excessive.

Add to that Frontier, US, and Southwest. PHX-DEN is a well served city-pair.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6979 times:



Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 5):

That seems a bit excessive.

Huge market, both O&D and connections.



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6924 times:

I'm trying to find the changes, but they don't appear in any of the timetables or when trying to book on united.com, where are you getting this information?

If true, here'll be the October schedule for all airlines between PHX-DEN (on Friday, Oct. 9th, according to timetables)

F9:
319 - 142 pax?
319
319
319
319
318 - 117 pax?
318

UA:
757 - 182 pax
757
757
757
757
320 - 138 pax

US:
733 - 128 pax?
319 - 124 pax?
733
319
319

WN:
73G - 149 pax?
73G
73G
73G
73G
73G
73G
73G

So in total around 3812 seats will be flying daily between PHX-DEN...

[Edited 2009-09-01 16:06:44]

User currently offlineAmwest2United From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6833 times:
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Quoting Airport (Reply 4):
I don't think UA does any non-hub-to-hub widebody domestic flying anymore (sans Hawaii).

IAD-SEA is a 767-300 INTL Most of the year



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6800 times:



Quoting Airport (Reply 8):
WN:
73G - 149 pax?

124 pax. 33" pitch on WN.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4403 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6782 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
124 pax. 33" pitch on WN.

The 73G is 137 pax and 735 122.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6782 times:



Quoting Iowaman (Reply 11):

The 73G is 137 pax and 735 122.

Absolutely right. I am really off today.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6755 times:



Quoting Amwest2United (Reply 9):

IAD-SEA is a 767-300 INTL Most of the year

Yea, but SEA is a focus city/hub for UA so I don't know if that counts.



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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6696 times:

It's nice to see PHX-SFO getting some love. I would just fly US instead of flying on a CRJ for 650 miles. It would be nice to see a bit better LAX-PHX service, although I know they are a small player on that route and pretty much just fly it for the connection.

User currently offlineFlyIGuy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6681 times:



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 13):
IAD-SEA is a 767-300 INTL Most of the year

Actually Just recently we just started seeing the 767-300 again, generally it's been a 757.

Just my 0.02



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6645 times:



Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 13):

Yea, but SEA is a focus city/hub for UA so I don't know if that counts.

It is neither really anymore. UA's main business in SEA is their contract with Microsoft.



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User currently offlineSlcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5941 times:



Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
Any money on UA bringing back the 767 to PHX?

Not one penny for regular scheduled consistent service. temporary event, mechanical or charter possible


User currently offlineBatonops From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 748 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5682 times:



Quoting Osubuckeyes (Reply 3):
Also is the IAD routing still IAD-PHX-TUS-PHX-IAD?

It no longer runs to TUS. It is IAD-PHX-IAD. The flight does an RON at PHX.


User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5463 times:



Quoting Thegooddoctor (Thread starter):
I just noticed United finally reversed its trend of downsizing PHX service... here are the changes:

I do not believe that this is a "trend"

This is a seasonal INCREASE in capacity into PHX.

Fall, Winter, and Spring Training (Baseball) are the "high" seasons in PHX. This is also verified with the increase in hotel per-diem during this time period.

Watch for another spike in capacityduring February and March.

And, watch for a decrease in capacity starting around May.


User currently offlineLACA773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4471 times:
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If UA is going to run 757 on ORD-PHX-ORD and one airbus, it looks as if they cut the fourth frequency based on upgauging their equipment from all airbus to the larger 757 on two of the flights. Will they be running a weekend only flight as well on this route?

How does UAX do on their LAX-PHX-LAX flights? I'll take WN any day over a CRJ and WN's service is nice for a short hop.


User currently offlineJetboy319 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4458 times:



Quoting Amwest2United (Reply 9):
IAD-SEA is a 767-300 INTL Most of the year

The 3x SEA-IAD flights have been a scheduled combination of 752s, 320s & 319s for a while now.

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 13):
Yea, but SEA is a focus city/hub for UA so I don't know if that counts.

Not even close.


User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1916 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

Not sure whether it is PHX really getting any different attention than anywhere else. The same thing has happened in LAS where the 757 is now pouring in. It is simply the dissolving of the Ted operation where cities like LAS and PHX had lost all of their multi-cabin a/c types to single class A320's, we are now seeing the mainline fleet spread back to the cities that they should have never left!

User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23021 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3666 times:



Quoting Crownvic (Reply 22):
Not sure whether it is PHX really getting any different attention than anywhere else.

 checkmark  There's also a fair amount of shuffling going on as 737s leave the fleet, even in cities that weren't necessarily big 737 destinations (PHX never was).



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User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3637 times:



Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 23):
Quoting Crownvic (Reply 22):
Not sure whether it is PHX really getting any different attention than anywhere else.

There's also a fair amount of shuffling going on as 737s leave the fleet, even in cities that weren't necessarily big 737 destinations (PHX never was).

And as a result of the 737's leaving the fleet, STL lost the last of their UA mainline, they had a couple daily 737 to DEN. I guess WN and F9 are eating their lunch...


25 Cubsrule : ...no point in keeping it a mainline station for a couple of daily flights when there's a huge need to get AX and G7 aircraft to STL (and many of the
26 Thegooddoctor : Hey thanks Warreng, in all my years flying out of phx, I've never noticed seasonal changes to phx schedules... Look at the equip last winter and the
27 Warreng24 : IIRC this past February & March (and the year before) there was once daily 752 service into PHX on Saturday only from ORD and DEN. Corresponding to t
28 Thegooddoctor : Exactly... so increase from 2x saturday only upguage as a seasonal change versus 10x 757 frequencies daily a change to the trend...I guess that's why
29 PacificClipper : Yay! Glad to see the SFO frequencies going up. Anyone know what date the sked change is effective?
30 Usdcaguy : Ah...but it's not about PHX to LAX. It's about PHX to LAX to HKG/SYD/NRT/JFK/FRA, etc.
31 Ckfred : AA is 5X daily with MD-80s, although earlier this year, it was showing 1 or 2 738s on the route, and the rest MD-80s. I've gotten the impression that
32 USAirALB : When was the last time it was a 767
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